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Real0ne -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 11:00:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Everybody knows your opinion, effendi: that's why most of the forum finds you hilarious, I suspect.


Frankly after one of the "everybody-z" you talk about complained that my quotes out of law bibles CJS and AmJur were from a conspiracy fringe website requesting the moderators should put me on suspension for it, its not surprising.

Then again maybe that is a conspiracy fringe?






mnottertail -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 11:01:59 AM)

unless its a flag fringe, lotta fucking fringies in you.



Moonhead -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 11:04:57 AM)

Maybe he's thinking of Bette Page's fringe?



mnottertail -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 11:05:47 AM)

or a surrey with the fringe on top.



Moonhead -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 11:07:29 AM)

Great. You've now cued up Oh What A Beautiful Morning on my internal jukebox.
I'm going to have to resort to extreme measures to cure this: a stiff drink and Venom's Black Metal it is...



mnottertail -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 11:10:32 AM)

Long Island Tea in celebration of the OP spirit?



Moonhead -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 11:15:21 AM)

That'd work.



mnottertail -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 11:49:00 AM)

On a very serious note, regarding the OP.


Here were a few cases (where rule of law was given precedence over the good of the people).

http://law.jrank.org/pages/2446/State-v-Mann-1829.html
http://supreme.justia.com/us/60/393/case.html
http://supreme.justia.com/us/163/537/case.html

Now if we are all going to go so far as to fetch us up a coupla nigras to whip, because that law in the halcyon days of yore is sacrosanct, never to be tested........

I could get behind some raceplay with Queen Latifah and a couple other gals...(although I would have to imagine that inside of 30 seconds or so, Dana and I would be rolling all over the floor in helpless peals of laughter)  

So, yeah, in strict implementation there is a fuckwad of insidiousness to it.  Now, compromise by striking a balance between hands off and total control, you won't find alot of people who disagree with that principle....that, is not so black and white as you make it out in the OP.



Real0ne -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 11:52:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
unless its a flag fringe, lotta fucking fringies in you.


. ...ancient custom sanctions the use of fringe on regimental colors and standards, but there seems to be no good reason or precedent for its use on other flags. . .the use of such a fringe is prescribed in current Army Regulations, No. 260-10." (See 34 Ops. Atty. Gen. 483 & 485)

By Army Regulation 260-10, the gold fringe may be used only on regimental "colors," the President's flag, for military courts martial, and the flags used at military recruiting centers.

The gold-fringed flag only stands inside military courts that sit in summary court martial proceedings against civilians and such courts are governed in part by local rules, but more especially by "The Manual of Courts Martial", U.S., 1994 Ed., at Art. 99, (c)(1)(b), pg. IV-34, PIN 030567-0000, U.S. Government Printing Office, Wash. D.C. The details of the crimes that civilians can commit, that are classed as 'Acts of War,' cover 125 pages in the Manual of Courts Martial.

Army Regulations, (AR 840-10, Oct. 1, 1979.) "the Flag is trimmed on three sides with Fringe of Gold, 2 1/2 inches wide," and that, "such flags are flown indoors, ONLY in military courtrooms." And that the Gold Fringed Flag is not to be carried by anyone except units of the United States Army, and the United States Army division associations."

The adornments (FINIAL) on the top of the flag pole are for military use only. The gold eagle is for the use of the President of the United States only, and only in time of war. The gold spear ball is for military recruiting centers only. The gold acorn is for military parades only. (Army
Regulation 840-10, chapter 8).



Regardless if you understnad or not, you do have the right to be in D'Nile.






mnottertail -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 12:02:31 PM)

s o  f u c k i n g  w h a t ?  ?  ?  ?  ?

Do you know that they have chairs in the courtroom?  they have lights?  paper?  does that mean that anywhere an incandescent bulb shines the magna carta is used to tanslate your every malfeasance?  does that mean that all chairs are electric?

Oh, now I got it, the grass on the courthouse lawn is green; therefore; William the Bastard is the rightwise king of Trinidad and Tobago, because there is green grass there.

Hey, how about this?  When anyone carries (like them geezers with the de-wated rifles) a flag with fringe on it at the Superbowl in the parades at halftime, it is really a secret meeting of the protocols of zion squad with a symbolic castration of the foreskins of the mind, performed by the band Queen.

Am I close?  

OH, yeah   PS.  This bit is pure and unadulterated horseshit that some whacko site is using to fuck with the feebleminded:

Army Regulations, (AR 840-10, Oct. 1, 1979.) "the Flag is trimmed on three sides with Fringe of Gold, 2 1/2 inches wide," and that, "such flags are flown indoors, ONLY in military courtrooms." And that the Gold Fringed Flag is not to be carried by anyone except units of the United States Army, and the United States Army division associations."


It don't say that, never did, never will.  I pointed out to you that regulation , para and letter in another thread.  Your repeating this imbicilic drool ad nauseam will never make it any the righter. 



Real0ne -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 12:18:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

s o  f u c k i n g  w h a t ?  ?  ?  ?  ?

Do you know that they have chairs in the courtroom?  they have lights?  paper?  does that mean that anywhere an incandescent bulb shines the magna carta is used to tanslate your every malfeasance?  does that mean that all chairs are electric?

Oh, now I got it, the grass on the courthouse lawn is green; therefore; William the Bastard is the rightwise king of Trinidad and Tobago, because there is green grass there.

Hey, how about this?  When anyone carries (like them geezers with the de-wated rifles) a flag with fringe on it at the Superbowl in the parades at halftime, it is really a secret meeting of the protocols of zion squad with a symbolic castration of the foreskins of the mind, performed by the band Queen.

Am I close?  

OH, yeah   PS.  This bit is pure and unadulterated horseshit that some whacko site is using to fuck with the feebleminded:

Army Regulations, (AR 840-10, Oct. 1, 1979.) "the Flag is trimmed on three sides with Fringe of Gold, 2 1/2 inches wide," and that, "such flags are flown indoors, ONLY in military courtrooms." And that the Gold Fringed Flag is not to be carried by anyone except units of the United States Army, and the United States Army division associations."


It don't say that, never did, never will.  I pointed out to you that regulation , para and letter in another thread.  Your repeating this imbicilic drool ad nauseam will never make it any the righter. 



I do enjoy it when people rant!

quit whining man.

the government actually has instructions how to brush your fucking teeth.

You can rant at me all day long and it does not change the fact that there is no place in law that prescribes a 4th color (gold) to be used in any civilian flag of the united states.

very simple to figger out man.

if it is not described in title 4 et al then its not regulation.

If the only definition for it is military court martial flag then what else can it be Ohaha's birth certificate?

Sorry if your whole concept of this country is blown out of the water, not my fault that I can quote law and show me in your title 4 citation WHERE gold is a color of the us flag?  you cant, it aint there and you know it and no amount of your jumping up and down and screaming will put it there for you.



Moonhead -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 12:24:29 PM)

The thing that I always find hilarious about the fact that the American right's lunatic fringe being the only people who still take the Protocols Of The Informed Elders Of Zion seriously, is that it was a Russian manuscript Henry Ford paid to have translated and published.
Russian! Obviously commie propaganda! They'll be out to collectivise the Kulaks next...



Real0ne -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 12:51:50 PM)

I have no idea how you ventured from the topic discussed to the zion thing but even that you really need to do research on it before you flippantly speak to the matter as you will soon discover the stolen original was never in dispute though a....hmmm its been so long since I researched this I dont remember, but I think it was a swiss court that found that the copy brought into the court was a fraud.  Like no kidding huh?  LOL

Normally as a point of good research I would ask you to show me the facts but you have already proven to me you do not know what facts are so I will save you and I the trouble.



Moonhead -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 1:04:46 PM)

I can't be arsed digging around on the internet (most of what can be found there will be antisemites who still think the book's true, in any case), but, you're talking out of your arse yet again.
The book was forged by a minor Russian nobleman to try to endear himself to the Tsar. This backfired, and he was told to take his nasty little book and piss off out of the court. All of the subsequent versions for which various bizarre origin stories have been suggested, are copies of the original fake.



Real0ne -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 1:20:15 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

I can't be arsed digging around on the internet (most of what can be found there will be antisemites who still think the book's true, in any case), but, you're talking out of your arse yet again.
The book was forged by a minor Russian nobleman to try to endear himself to the Tsar. This backfired, and he was told to take his nasty little book and piss off out of the court. All of the subsequent versions for which various bizarre origin stories have been suggested, are copies of the original fake.


original fake?

How can the original be a fake?

I suppose you dont see that as a contradiction in terms?

None of which changes the fact that there is nothing in the code for a gold fringe flag OTHER THAN that of a courts martial.

That said when we enter into a "court" we enter into the court as civilians in a military styled court and in a military styled court (for all intents and purposes) you are guilty until proven innocent.

Sounds about like a traffic ticket does it not?



mnottertail -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 1:28:08 PM)

how can an original be fake?  think piltsdown man (in deference to Moonhead, there are american equivalences).  



Real0ne -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 1:37:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

On a very serious note, regarding the OP.


Here were a few cases (where rule of law was given precedence over the good of the people).

http://law.jrank.org/pages/2446/State-v-Mann-1829.html
http://supreme.justia.com/us/60/393/case.html
http://supreme.justia.com/us/163/537/case.html

Now if we are all going to go so far as to fetch us up a coupla nigras to whip, because that law in the halcyon days of yore is sacrosanct, never to be tested........

I could get behind some raceplay with Queen Latifah and a couple other gals...(although I would have to imagine that inside of 30 seconds or so, Dana and I would be rolling all over the floor in helpless peals of laughter)  

So, yeah, in strict implementation there is a fuckwad of insidiousness to it.  Now, compromise by striking a balance between hands off and total control, you won't find alot of people who disagree with that principle....that, is not so black and white as you make it out in the OP.



well you have a mis-mash of stuff here...

you are talking judge directing the jury in a common law tribunal which is unwarranted, you are talking common law which unless you really have your shit together you will not get a common law tribunal even though it is secured by the constitution in both the feds and states alike, and you are also talking one case against the state.

All of which are completely different in as much in how they must be adjudicated and rules thereon.

2 Cases were before the reconstruction act, one after and all before reconstruction when going off of the gold standard.

hodge podge of "stuff"

the biggest problem is the most important law form of the constitution, the common law has been all but abolished in the US in civil cases hence someone without injury can sue you.

Who got hurt when you jwalked at 3 am and no one on the road to see you except the extortionist revenue collector cop?






Real0ne -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 1:39:52 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

how can an original be fake?  think piltsdown man (in deference to Moonhead, there are american equivalences).  


fossils have "substance".

writings are words on paper

entirely different venue



mnottertail -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 1:51:16 PM)

milieus or venues are not lodestones of truth simply by extant, do try to keep up.



Real0ne -> RE: NYT's Discovers Insidious TEA Party belief: Rule of Law (10/13/2010 2:03:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

milieus or venues are not lodestones of truth simply by extant, do try to keep up.


neither milieus or extant, are legal terms and venue has nothing to do with truth so your statement frankly is nonsense



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