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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/11/2010 6:16:59 PM

sunshinemiss

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The problem with this is that it turns one person into a thing. If he likes long hair on a woman, that's great. What about the gals for whom long hair looks awful? He likes a little brand / tattoo... Yeah, what happens when we split up? (Ok, maybe after ten years together, I'd consider getting a tattoo... matching tattoos.). He likes women in dresses, that's great but amazingly impractical for the work someone does, for their body type, for the weather.

Cosmetic surgery... is surgery. Jeesh. Not no, but hell no.

Now, before the flaming begins... some folks dig this, and doing things to make someone happy is a huge part of relationships. This whole "you will do as I say" thing just doesn't work for me. No thank you. I would hope that a man who is with me would actually have the wisdom to realize I know a thing or two. He would know that I recognize that he likes when I wear the color red, so sure I'll wear it. I want to be inspired to make someone happy. I like to think that there is a man or two out there who has that ability, who actually recognizes more than just my physical body.

This is all very mannequin-y and seems to turn partners into objects without regard for the person. That's just not my thing.

To me, this comes down to perspective. You (OP) are asking about the body. That tells me that you see a person as a doll. The last few things on RS' list include a much greater range of concepts (career, family, self-defense, etc.). These are about helping her to be more of the person she is /a better person rather than altering her into someone she isn't that will fit some notion in your (generic "you") head.

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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/11/2010 6:56:23 PM

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Clothing ill take preferences, however i will not wear anything to get me fired
hair- Ive been growing my hair out since 6th grade so about 12 years now, when im with a man for 12 or so years, ill consider changing it.
Accessories- depends if it will interfere with work hell no.
tattoos- i have my body planed out with tattoos, i have my lower back reserved for someone longer term, but like with all of my art, its designed by me.
piercings, depends on where i cant have facial piercings at work, and well...
brands- FUCK no im not a cow or a horse or any other piece of livestock
gential piercings- did those on my own.
perm mods- it would depend, on the mods, i wouldnt do any type of breast enhancement or the such but i might be willing to consider perm laser hair removal on the genitals and under arms and maybe legs just because its a bitch to shave.

but any enhancement. no

Also Im not like a car, im a human being, im not a possession or object or thing im a human being, i dont need fine tuned or an upgrade or any of the like. Im perfect the way i am and if my dom doesnt see it like that well then i must have been drunk when i was getting to know him because we have MAJOR differences.

I get the ill do anything for you, but the complications of many of these surgeries or such are LONG TERM for EVER. And thats not something im willing to give to a guy just yet.

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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/11/2010 7:18:56 PM

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If there were to be a girl that would be a great match for me, I wouldn't mind footing any bill, and a good master should protect their slaves/sub to every inch possible. I'd have to be close with this girl too, its not anybody that can just come and trick me into paying for their crap. It has to be something we both enjoy.

Trick you into paying for it when you're the one demanding it? And since insurance won't cover any of this, you have to have the money to do it. And $10,000 in an escrow account so she can be sure of having it all removed. You need to start thinking these things through, young man.

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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/11/2010 7:39:45 PM

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Celeste - I don't think that's what he's saying. I think he's saying he thinks it's appropriate for him to pay for it if he's with a gal he's tight with. If however it was someone who just wanted surgery or whatever, then no he wouldn't pay because that would be a trick. He seems to have presumed the trust thing.

Just my read.

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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/11/2010 7:43:05 PM

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I liked your list better (not that the OP's list wasn't good, I just like the extra stuff hehe), so I'll use that one.

1. Clothes --- Because I've never cared too horribly much about fashion, I have no qualms letting Master take control - in fact, I thank him because he has damn good fashion sense and makes me look sexy

2. Hair --- Same with clothes, since I never was able to pick a favorite hairstyle, I don't care what he does with it, beyond shaving it because I find lack of hair on my head to be really squicky. Luckily he doesn't like lack-of-hair either, so I don't need to worry about that.

3. Accessories (bracelets, chains, collars, etc.) --- I even wear my collar to school, since it's an art school and 90% of the people here are eccentric either, most people look at it as a fashion statement. Whatever he wants me to wear I'll wear, though I do have limits of metals I'm allergic to - but that's a common sense thing, don't put things that give your slave rashes on said slave. It damages the slave.

4. Tattoos --- When Master and I get married I'll be getting a tattoo of his rune on my wrist to mark me as a part of him. Until we make that very large step that binds us 'til death do us part', legally, etc, Master wouldn't even want to mark me in any permanent way. You never know if something is going to fall apart. Even after being married there is that chance, but we don't plan on being married until we both feel 110% sure that we will last (that event is still years away).

5. Non genital piercings --- We're too nervous that any piercings I get would act like my ears did - I can't have anything in them for more than an hour or so without them getting infected. So we don't really try, which I'm thankful for. Though even though I have doubts, I wouldn't wholly mind trying new piercings, so long as they don't become raunchy by covering my body.

6. Branding --- Oooouch. I like the idea of it, and maybe I might even be willing to around the time that tattoos come into play... but at the same time, my fear of extreme pain make this almost a limit.

7. Genital Piercings --- I want them, but just like with the non-genital piercings, too afraid that my body won't like them to really want them done. Though I think clit piercings are damn sexy.

8. Cosmetic Surgeries (Lip, Nose, Butt, Boobs) --- I honestly wouldn't mind too much with boobs (I kinda want them bigger too, I use wonder-bras now, but I wouldn't mind making them real), though the others not so much for the simple fact that I would feel that I wasn't good enough as I was for the others. I don't have any desire for the others, thus he shouldn't either.

9. Diet - gross weight loss/gain --- Currently having my diet controlled, because I asked for it, because I have too little willpower to keep from eating all those bad for you goodies. Already lost ten pounds, fifteen more to go for my ideal weight.

10. Tanning --- Sorry, I don't like icky leather skin - though I wouldn't mind if he wanted me darker and used spray on tan. I don't mind spending more time out in the sun though, since I tend to be a bat who hides from it and probably need more of it in general anyway.

11. Physical exercise - body toning shaping for health & fitness --- Doing that, to firm up my body so that I'm not squishy when I take my clothes off lol. He enforces it because on my own I'm way too lazy to do anything just for myself.

12. Physical discipline - marshal arts, combat and self defense --- If he wanted me to learn self defense, I don't see anything wrong with that, though I would prefer learning it with him to make the experience more enjoyable.

13. Personality adjustments, paradigm shift in attitude --- Master works with me every day to adjust old bad habits that I've had in regards to my personality. I'm too quiet, not very communicative more often than not, and we've been working on my self esteem and confidence so that I can communicate my wants and needs easier. So I don't mind this at all, so long as it is for the better, and helps me grow as a person. If he wanted me to change my love of music though, I just don't think I would be able to do that, for the simple fact that it wouldn't be true to myself in my most basic sense of self - music is a part of me, I couldn't take it away without taking away a part of myself.

14. Religion --- I won't convert, I'm very much a spiritualist who agrees with every religion and disagrees with every religion at the same time. But I have no qualms going to whatever church/institution they do, whether it be Catholic, Buddhist, Hindu, whatever. If Master suddenly decided we are going to start going to church (he considers himself a non-practicing Roman Catholic) I would say, "Okay!" and put on my best skirts. ...I will admit though, I love black churches best (not an insult, it's a total compliment, I've been to several and there's just so much more life and music and active celebration during sermons). The only unfortunate thing about my love for them though is that I stick out like a frostbitten thumb... >_> I'm the vampire of the crowd lol.

15. Career --- So long as he is willing to provide for my needs, I don't really mind if he doesn't want me to have a career of my own. Though art will always be a hobby (I want to be an animator once I graduate, thus art is a very integral part of my career choice).

16. Pregnancy --- I don't want kids, I don't think I'd be with someone who does. Maybe, in time, I'll want them, but until then, ugh. I'm just too much a kid myself to want them right now, I want to take care of myself.

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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/12/2010 6:09:42 AM

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Thank you all for your insightful comments.

I'm really appreciative to all the subs/slaves that put their input into such a topic. And I'm really inspired by porcelaine's "proverbial 'we' that makes the impossible a reality we can manifest. I fully understand this statement, and I guess you really hit it on the nail.

Without that proverbial 'we' there would be no D/S relationship to begin with, and its still trust and mutual concern and happiness that leads relationships.

Any other helpful insightful comments would be highly appreciated.

quote:

ORIGINAL: porcelaine

Greetings MrGentleTouch,

Although your list is not comprehensive I didn't find the areas mentioned of concern. I trust the suggestions are beneficial to my well being and the relationship as a whole and aren't solely based on his perceptions or preferences. In my opinion balanced M/s relationships go beyond these limitations and take the collective into account rather than one perspective. It's the proverbial 'we' that makes the impossible a reality we can manifest. Doing what is best isn't always comfortable but it's well worth the discomfort.

Namaste,

~porcelaine

quote:

ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

You may have missed a few that I have seen in use.

1. Clothes
2. Hair
3. Accessories (bracelets, chains, collars, etc.)
4. Tattoos
5. Non genital piercings
6. Branding
7. Genital Piercings
8. Cosmetic Surgeries (Lip, Nose, Butt, Boobs)
9. Diet - gross weight loss/gain
10. Tanning
11. Physical exercise - body toning shaping for health & fitness
12. Physical discipline - marshal arts, combat and self defense
13. Personality adjustments, paradigm shift in attitude
14. Religion
15. Career
16. Pregnancy

This list is more comprehensive, but 14-16 would be more about life choices rather than body modifications.

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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/12/2010 2:03:30 PM

WolfyMontgomery

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrGentleTouch
This list is more comprehensive, but 14-16 would be more about life choices rather than body modifications.

Wait, nevermind. I misread. You're right, they wouldn't be body modifications. Though they are good things to consider from a viewpoint of what one is willing to do for their Dom.

Edited because I was a goof who started thinking of the thread as comprehensive rather than strictly body modifications. Oops. =P

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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/12/2010 2:06:36 PM

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quote:

This list is more comprehensive, but 14-16 would be more about life choices rather than body modifications.

I agree, 13-15 aren't body mods. My bad, I repost itf or the sake of those who would copy/paste.

1. Clothes
2. Hair
3. Accessories (bracelets, chains, collars, etc.)
4. Tattoos
5. Non genital piercings
6. Branding
7. Genital Piercings
8. Cosmetic Surgeries (Lip, Nose, Butt, Boobs)
9. Diet - gross weight loss/gain
10. Tanning
11. Physical exercise - body toning shaping for health & fitness
12. Physical discipline - marshal arts, combat and self defense
13. Pregnancy

Pregnancy is both a body and lifestyle change though. I leave that for you guys to sort out... 9 months carrying a baby, 18 years raising it, a lifetime of physical and mental aftereffects.

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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/12/2010 4:47:21 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrGentleTouch

Thank you all for your insightful comments.

I'm really appreciative to all the subs/slaves that put their input into such a topic. And I'm really inspired by porcelaine's "proverbial 'we' that makes the impossible a reality we can manifest. I fully understand this statement, and I guess you really hit it on the nail.

Without that proverbial 'we' there would be no D/S relationship to begin with, and its still trust and mutual concern and happiness that leads relationships.

Greetings MrGentleTouch,

Thank you for the compliment. The 'we' I referenced is focused on building bridges that deepen the connection and unite the pair rather than allowing challenges to erode the structure. It comes down to the level of importance one places on the bond and if it sits at the helm or is quietly competing with the participant's desires. A house divided cannot stand. Most falter because each party is focused on self protective measures and getting their due without recognizing that the latter is collectively gained rather than individually realized. And from the submissive angle, there's continued emphasis on the individual will/won't do or how their behavior is restricted to certain situations. The checks and balances diminish the freedom of giving and illustrate their belief/fear of being shortchanged.

Namaste,

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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/12/2010 4:53:04 PM

DesFIP

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Celeste - I don't think that's what he's saying. I think he's saying he thinks it's appropriate for him to pay for it if he's with a gal he's tight with. If however it was someone who just wanted surgery or whatever, then no he wouldn't pay because that would be a trick. He seems to have presumed the trust thing.

Just my read.

best,
sunshine

But he started out saying he wants to do all this stuff to a woman. And then he's saying that she 'tricked' him into it by agreeing to do what he wants. WTF. It doesn't seem to me he's at all ready to have any kind of relationship with his expectations that the other person will be deceiving him.

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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/12/2010 5:51:17 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Celeste - I don't think that's what he's saying. I think he's saying he thinks it's appropriate for him to pay for it if he's with a gal he's tight with. If however it was someone who just wanted surgery or whatever, then no he wouldn't pay because that would be a trick. He seems to have presumed the trust thing.

Just my read.

best,
sunshine

But he started out saying he wants to do all this stuff to a woman. And then he's saying that she 'tricked' him into it by agreeing to do what he wants. WTF. It doesn't seem to me he's at all ready to have any kind of relationship with his expectations that the other person will be deceiving him.

He did? I've read through twice and can't see anywhere he's said that.

That said ..... Yes....if I'm not prepared to, then he doesn't own me. Either he can do what he wants or he doesn't *own* me.

Like Jeff, there'd probably be a limit somewhere along the line, but nothing in that list.

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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/12/2010 6:38:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: MrGentleTouch

I want to do a poll of what subs and slaves are and are not willing to do for their masters/owners.

I guess I'll start with the most vanilla, to the more extreme ends. If you do not think thats the correct order, I'm not here to declare anything, just my guess of what is more extreme by the community.

1. Clothes I love to be fashionable and he loves to shop for me or take me shopping so no problem there.
2. Hair I occasionally wear hair extensions on my already long hair because he likes it but so do I, so again, no issue.
3. Accessories (bracelets, chains, collars, etc.) Yes indeed, he is generous and buys me wonderful jewelry.
4. Tattoos I already had two large tattoos when we met, he doesn't love them really, and I probably won't get anymore
5. Non genital piercings Ears only, don't want any others
6. Branding Wouldn't do it even if he wanted me to which he doesn't
7. Genital Piercings Hell no
8. Cosmetic Surguries (Lip, Nose, Butt, Boobs) Well, he is a breast man but mine are rather large naturally so a non issue, I do get botox 3 times a year, I did it long before I was his girl, and he loves it and pays for it and I intend to continue. Anything permanent, probably not. Ask me in 5 more years. :)

Male Female Transexuals or any other gender you want to align with, please give me your 2 cents.

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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/12/2010 7:53:37 PM

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quote:

- do you regret the choice of having a mark of a previous master, feeling like it almost hinders you to be closer with your current/future masters? I don't want my future subs/slaves to be excited one day to have my mark, but scarred the day after if things do not turn well (i think that masters and subs need to put more consideration into the subject before undergoing any tattoos) (

I have no qualms about the tatoo i have, nor has any man in my life subsequent to me getting it placed. If a man did, i would have to question his maturity and his ability to master me.

quote:

- piercings are not markings, and they can be taken off. Branding are less obvious, and often are symbols rather than letters, tattoos can have letters

What you are not taking into consideration is that in my answer, i placed no limitations. Instead, i attempted to consider all possibilities of placement. Piercings, brandings and tatoos can be as hidden... or as obvious... as a man wishes them to be. since i do not associate with being submissive, but rather a slave, that is the orientation i am coming from.

- what about breast implants? if yes, is there a size limit that you would consider?

Well, being a DD... lol... larger could be obtained... but i really dont see the point.

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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/12/2010 8:59:29 PM

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1. Clothes --Yes, pick my clothes for me, b/c my fashion sense sucks

2. Hair -- Well, now this would be trickier, I've had long hair all my life, I don't mind recoloring it, it would be tough to cut the length
3. Accessories (bracelets, chains, collars, etc.) --yes, any and all of them I don't mind. It makes me happy that he cares to put something around me that shows I'm his.
4. Tattoos --a little trickier as well, I wouldn't mind an Oroboros (sp?) the snake that coils upon itself, it's not name-identifying, but it's A: a universal symbol for never-ending, and B: It would still mean something to our relationship, but if it ended, I could still live w/ myself if I got it.
5. Non genital piercings -- perhaps, I wouldn't do it for my pleasure, only for his. I'm not overly fond of needles, hence why piercing is tough for me
6. Branding -- Somehow I like this idea better than a piercing, do not ask me why. No I haven't had any of the more severe things done, I just think I could handle it better than a piercing, though I can't say for sure how I'd feel or deal with it, until faced w/ that situation.
7. Genital Piercings -- Um, I'm not really fond of the idea, my body is pretty sensitive in those areas, and I'm kind of afraid if I got anything pierced that it might affect sensation, but if I was guaranteed it wouldn't, then I might do it. I'm more afraid I wouldn't take care of the piercings or it'd be too much hassel, alot of women can't take care of it properly.
8. Cosmetic Surguries (Lip, Nose, Butt, Boobs) -- hmm, I like my lips/nose just fine, my face is shaped fairly nice as it is, so there's no reason for it. And, I have average boobs, but I really don't want to carry around watermelons, smaller breasts are better for bondage anyway, though it's not impossible w/ bigger ones, it just kind of gets in the way of rope, amongst other things. However, he wants to pay to lipo my butt, yes...then by all means, I'm okay with me losing more weight.

I also like the added questions too, good observations.
9. Diet - gross weight loss/gain --I'm fine w/ this as long as it's losing weight, not gaining, I mean, you wouldn't want to lose weight too rapidly either b/c you'd have mass amounts of extra skin to deal with. But, gradual weight loss I'm fine with, as long as it's healthy.
10. Tanning ---um, not a big fan. I think paler skin gives a woman a more "maiden" like appearance, also good for goths too, um some tanning in in sun okay, but...too much tanning is unhealthy for the skin, and I always think about my health first, even if my Master really wanted me to, I'd probably disagree, esp. with tanning booths. But, I wouldn't mind getting a little tan.
11. Physical exercise - body toning shaping for health & fitness --Yes, exercise and toning is good for the body, I'd welcome more exercise or change.
12. Physical discipline - marshal arts, combat and self defense --Again, all these are good to learn for anybody, it would only make you stronger
13. Personality adjustments, paradigm shift in attitude --Yes, and some ppl say I need a personality adjustment (at least curbing my slight negativity, so I'd welcome a certain amount of behavior or mental, attitude shift if it was really for my "good" benefit).
14. Religion -- No, that's a personal thing I wouldn't change for any Master, what I practice or not is my business, we can have a relationship, without it destroying our relationship and if it was destroyed over something like this, then that would prove intolerant to one of us, now wouldn't it?
15. Career -- I'm fine w/ him picking my career or if I need to change jobs, I have problems in this area anyway, so it might help.
16. Pregnancy -- Well, that is a VERY big decision. If we both agreed to it, then yes...I'd be okay with it, it's the one area you don't always want to give total control over too, because it is a health issue, and he's not the one that will have to carry the baby (Master or not, now yes, more than likely he'll have alot of say-so in the step processes). However, more than the physical aspect, you need to talk about whether both of you are fully ready to be parents and if you can provide for the child, and also if you are emotionally ready to have one too. So, that's not a topic that should be picked lightly. Like, sometimes I read up about men who want slave breeders, but that's really a little ridiculous to me, since it's a huge responsibility, anyone who thinks otherwise, shouldn't really be a parent.

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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/13/2010 12:59:13 AM

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To Clarify:

I do not think that women are in any way dolls, objects, or people I can easily manipulate. I've spent most of my living life joining clubs and activities to defend female rights. The car metaphor that I wrote here came from a female friend of mine who cherished her looks and youthfulness very much.

And what I meant by 'tricking' I mean someone such as a manipulative porn star that wanted lipo for her career with absolutely no connection to me in anyway, faking emotional closeness with me so that I would foot the bill.

And what I see as a consensual slave, is that the slave is still a person, not a doormat, but a person fully under my care and love. I gave up a big part of my career for my past slave, to bail her out from her miserable family conditions and paid for her full college education.

I'm not here to question anyone's morals, even if they do not align with my own. I'm here to listen to what submissives and slaves think of this topic. I'm open to selling my properties and losing a lot of my social life to maintain the happiness of my slaves as well as quit almost any habit that I have, so long that there is a tiny inch of constructive doubt that I can muster up reasonably.

I just don't know how to find a slave that suitable for me, because the last one was not due to her preference to not to be married and raise children. And honestly, I was just unlucky. There's plenty of special people that would want to get married (so I'm not that worried about this), but not that many that can make as many lifestyle changes as I would be willing to to make my partner happy.

Yes, it is my desire for this change and that change. But lets face the facts, this is attraction that we are talking about. Looks do matter. I'm not saying that they trump personality, but half the profiles here on CM either say nobody over 35, or the other few that says that you have to be into their lifestyle of Goth or Victorian looks, and it all holds true to that people just have different preferences on what they like to wear, see, and carry their bodies around. Some people like piercings, hooks, blood, scat, or sexual practices that accidentally claim lives of their partners.

We are here because of our odd sexual preferences, and because this would be an open place to talk about, and pursue them without discrimination.

Now back to my topic:
I think that
10. Physical Exercise
11. Physical Discipline

are both necessary for a good healthy life, they keep sicknesses away, and I think that Doms and Masters have a duty to keep their slaves/subs safe, whether inside or outside the bedroom.

Anymore insightful comments would be highly appreciated! I've learned a lot here.

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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/13/2010 1:15:26 AM

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To you attraction matters greatly....for me theres very little a Dom of my tastes has to fulfill physically. Nice hands, nice eyes and know what a shower is. Most of whats attractive to me is internal.

Im sorry but piercings, and tattoos depending on where you put them hinder your ability to get a job. I know I currently have 7 tattoos and 4 piercings one of which is facial. Im not saying you would jeopardize such things but a tattoo on my wrist that says "slut bitch of master so and so" IS going to hinder my ability to get a job.

You are not a promised permanent fixture in your submissive or slaves life. Such things are not always the smartest idea.

The fact is if i was supposed to have EE tits, Id naturally have them for my figure, If i was supposed to have a different nose, Id naturally have one.

Your not making someone attractive. Your putting a person you claim to wish to keep safe under a procedure that causes their bodies to be cut open and adjusted to your and only your personal ideal of beauty.

Anesthesia really messes with me. I have to be given medicine before and after any procedure that requires it to assure I wake up from the procedure. It also comes with the risks for many people to not wake up. Its not something that happens to terribly often but it is a wavier that a client has to sign before any procedure that involves it.

So if you care about keeping your slave safe and keeping her healthy, why is it you wish to cut them open and risk death, infection, rupture, and other complications that come from plastic surgery?

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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/13/2010 2:01:26 AM

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1. Clothes
i usually check with Him about what i like to wear
2. Hair
He likes it long and tied; so it is
3. Accessories (bracelets, chains, collars, etc.)
He usually chooses my jewelry; if He does not like something i do not like to wear it
4. Tattoos
He does not like them, i have none
5. Non genital piercings
i already had my ears pierced, He's OK with it
6. Branding
He does not like it so it does not happen
7. Genital Piercings
He does not like it; i have none
8. Cosmetic Surguries (Lip, Nose, Butt, Boobs)
He would not spend any money on unnecessary stuff, so no
9. Diet - gross weight loss/gain
With crafty manipulation I am in charge of both of our weight
10. Tanning
We are natural white, and naturally a bit tanned in summer, He would think it stupid if i wanted to be permatanned in winter or would try to remain totally white in summer.
11. Physical exercise - body toning shaping for health & fitness
He allows me to go dancing, and when i feel a bit lazy He will tell me i am going dancing.
12. Physical discipline - marshal arts, combat and self defence
We fight sometimes
13. Personality adjustments, paradigm shift in attitude
We both manipulate each other for the best
14. Religion
We do not believe in God other than that God is Nature... i think if i wanted to be religious He would let me, but it would lower His opinion of me; He doesn't much like sheep.
15. Career
He has advised, inspired and helped me always, i need Him for support and guidance.
16. Pregnancy
He took responsibility and decided on my pregnancy

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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/13/2010 6:18:16 AM

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I have no qualms about the tatoo i have, nor has any man in my life subsequent to me getting it placed. If a man did, i would have to question his maturity and his ability to master me.

I really don't see why personal preference has anything to do with a person's maturity level or ability to be a Master of anyone in this case. I could see where he/she might not be a compatible person for you in that area.

I have tattoo's and don't mind them on females but I like moderation also. If she was going to want them covering her whole body I wouldn't probably find that attractive. I don't think it would affect her being a submissive though.

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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/13/2010 6:44:17 AM

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That wasnt the context of the question, nor the context of my response.

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- do you regret the choice of having a mark of a previous master, feeling like it almost hinders you to be closer with your current/future masters? I don't want my future subs/slaves to be excited one day to have my mark, but scarred the day after if things do not turn well (i think that masters and subs need to put more consideration into the subject before undergoing any tattoos) (

I have no qualms about the tatoo i have, nor has any man in my life subsequent to me getting it placed. If a man did, i would have to question his maturity and his ability to master me.

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RE: Implants and Body Modifications? - 10/13/2010 12:36:35 PM

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You are correct. My mistake.

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