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needing more pain - 9/28/2004 3:12:48 PM

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Hubby asked me last night, as i was asking for harder spanks, if i will continually need more and more pain to be satisfied. I know that i now orgasm much easier when pain is involved and am wondering if it will take more pain in the future to have an intense orgasm. Anyone experience this?

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RE: needing more pain - 9/28/2004 3:30:43 PM

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Joking aside, the biological mechanism is actually related to the effectiveness of drugs. The drug in question is, of course, the miracle of the bondage world (drumroll please....) ENDORPHINES! Yes, you can build up a tolerance to your own endorphines. Yes, they are addictive, and you can actually become disfunctional in your search after newer and better endorphine highs. This is especially true if you are getting a "pain fix" on a regular basis (lucky creature). The good news is that the addiction is psychological, rather than physiological. You can reset your pain tolerance by holding off on getting a pain fix for a while. The longer you go without, the lower your tolerance becomes, and the faster you get off when the blessed event finally happens. Isn't biochemistry grand?

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RE: needing more pain - 9/28/2004 3:38:56 PM

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Geepers! Perhaps an experiment is in order to determine whether is this accurate or not. OK OK - I will sacrifice myself again in the name of science. *grins* Results in an upcoming thread. Stay tuned!

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RE: needing more pain - 9/28/2004 4:06:40 PM

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You'd best check yourself into pain-slut rehab and get clean before it's too late.

LMAO!!

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You can reset your pain tolerance by holding off on getting a pain fix for a while.

Hold off???

are you kidding, i'm just getting started LOL. It does make sense to me though.

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I will sacrifice myself again in the name of science. *grins* Results in an upcoming thread. Stay tuned!

Thank you, thank you, i'm off the hook.

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RE: needing more pain - 9/28/2004 7:06:11 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: proudsub

Hubby asked me last night, as i was asking for harder spanks, if i will continually need more and more pain to be satisfied. I know that i now orgasm much easier when pain is involved and am wondering if it will take more pain in the future to have an intense orgasm. Anyone experience this?

I haven't been in the lifestyle long but already i have seen me craving "harder", being able to go further. Needing more!

Gesh it is a addiction huh?

Hi, My name is Jenn and i am addicted to pain *giggles* maybe someone will come up with a 10 step system ?

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RE: needing more pain - 9/28/2004 7:20:37 PM

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There's a good chance it's not about the pain level but the excitement / nervousness of "how far will this go?"

You might want to play with the psychological uncertainty. One game my Domme and I play is we both guess a number between 1 and something (she knows my guess and I don't know hers); she subtracts the smaller from the larger and uses that. I might wind up with one or two enormous swats, or a bunch of lighter ones -- only she knows for sure.

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RE: needing more pain - 9/28/2004 8:36:03 PM

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well Proudsub, for me and others i know it isnt always the case that you need more and more. Some days you cant take the lightest and others you crave more. my former sadist errrr dom, was always wondering why one day i might take 85 clothespins and the next i was screaming at 20. So you decide and let us know how it goes over time.

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RE: needing more pain - 9/29/2004 12:01:00 AM

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this slave is a big time painslut and knows it takes more pain for her to be able to have an intense orgasm when with Master. the harder He hits the more she asks for and the more intense the orgasm.

it depends on each person though as to how much pain they can handle, and what triggers their orgasms. for this slave just the command to "C_ _" is enough when with Master spankings or not.

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RE: needing more pain - 9/29/2004 3:15:40 AM

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I could always send off a quick note about proper toothbrush usage.

You may get a serious fix then...

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RE: needing more pain - 9/29/2004 8:25:02 AM

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quote:

I could always send off a quick note about proper toothbrush usage.

LOL next time i'm gonna put toothpaste on it

Seriously, thank you all for the responses.

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RE: needing more pain - 9/30/2004 7:23:12 PM

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not that, but I have wanted the reverse. I find that I had started wanting to spank, then I wanted to spank and pull hair, then spank, pull hair, and slap a face, Now I find myself wanting to push the limits of how much pain can I cause before the other gives in and asks for mercy. Is that odd too?

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RE: needing more pain - 9/30/2004 10:34:43 PM

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not that, but I have wanted the reverse. I find that I had started wanting to spank, then I wanted to spank and pull hair, then spank, pull hair, and slap a face, Now I find myself wanting to push the limits of how much pain can I cause before the other gives in and asks for mercy. Is that odd too?

Not at all, dear. That's just good, healthy sadism. Find someone who likes those games and go with it. :D

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RE: needing more pain - 6/13/2005 7:40:05 AM

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magiqual wrote:
There's a good chance it's not about the pain level but the excitement / nervousness of "how far will this go?"
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I seem to crave a good flogging more and more everyday. But I think for me Magiqual hit it right on. I think I look forward to the excitement and not being able to watch that flogger being swung gets me nervous and It's a rush for me each time it hits my back.

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RE: needing more pain - 6/13/2005 8:28:50 AM

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Is Hubby reluctant? Sounds like it from your OP. If he is..... perhaps the question to ask and answer is: Why is he reluctant? I mean..... the OP is getting intense orgasms. I presume he's gettin' lotsa hot sex. Soooooo.... why be reluctant?

Love the humor in this thread!!!!

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ORIGINAL: proudsub

Hubby asked me last night, as i was asking for harder spanks, if i will continually need more and more pain to be satisfied. I know that i now orgasm much easier when pain is involved and am wondering if it will take more pain in the future to have an intense orgasm. Anyone experience this?

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RE: needing more pain - 6/13/2005 12:59:38 PM

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quote:

Is Hubby reluctant? Sounds like it from your OP. If he is..... perhaps the question to ask and answer is: Why is he reluctant? I mean..... the OP is getting intense orgasms. I presume he's gettin' lotsa hot sex. Soooooo.... why be reluctant?

Oh yeah He's getting some good sex out of it.

He's reluctant to do much more than spankings, gentle floggings, and nip torture as far as pain goes, because he is afraid of hurting me. There's another thread on that which i will try to find, but have to go now.

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RE: needing more pain - 6/13/2005 3:46:23 PM

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ok first I like pain, More so than my Dom likes to give me, he stops just short of where I enjoy it for some reason haven't figured that out, have told him I can take more.
next cheeba022 how does that little fellow on you posting work it blew my mind it read the exact infor that my comp runs on is that by chance and yours does the same or is it a special program designed to blow peoples minds, LOL just wondering courious minds want to know

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RE: needing more pain - 6/13/2005 4:12:43 PM

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because he is afraid of hurting me. There's another thread on that which i will try to find, but have to go now.

OK here it is:

can love get in the way

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RE: needing more pain - 6/20/2005 5:34:51 PM

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ok there are a few factors working here.

One is endorphines, which are similar in structure to morphine and highly addicitve. Runners who cannot run get grumpy.

My wife got so addicited if I did not whip her butt regularly, she would come a pick a fight! She finally would show up in my office whip in hand and say "I am feeling a bit upset with you." This meant time to tie HER up and give her a good strong whipping.

If your orgasms are coming easier after spanking and whipping, this is due to a build up of blood in your pelvic region causing "pelvic tension" which can both trigger orgasms and trigger stronger orgasms. I believe Johnson and Masters wrote about this in one of their studies on human sexuality.

Now this effect has a nice benefit of your subconscious mind linking the whip to pelvic tension and triggering the effect automatically in some people. It can through proper anchoring (see behavior modification) be developed in anyone.

When you require whipping to the point where blood is running down your legs, I would say, go cold turkey for a few weeks and then come back.

I am sure there are some brain chemical specialists who could offer a different solution to the problem.

But tell hubby to just keep hitting harder. First the skin will develop a thickening of its layers,and be able to take far more severe whipping than one of those thin skinned newbies. Always point out how he gets to play hide the salami after each whiping and you will know when it gets too hard.

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