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RE: foreskin - 4/26/2006 1:44:55 PM   
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i would like to know how many Dommes perfer there boys uncut.i have meet alot of vanllia who perfer the clean cut look.


I prefer cut for a couple of reasons.

It is what I'm used to and therefore it looks more normal to me.

My father was circumsized late in life because of reoccuring infections; he actually told me that he wished he'd had it done ealier.

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RE: foreskin - 4/26/2006 2:19:48 PM   
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I moved to US from Russia, I was shocked to find out that almost every male in USA was cut. My responce was "Why not cut fingers off your arm too?"


precisely!

i'm so glad it's not a common practice in europe. i prefer european slaves and i only fuck european men..

circumcision without being for religious purposes is no different than genital mutiliation practiced in africa but shunned by western society.




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RE: foreskin - 4/26/2006 2:21:59 PM   
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I don't like the look of an uncut penis. I've also heard, as I'm not a doctor, or a man, that cut cocks are easier to keep clean.


that's a myth.. all the male has to do is retract the foreskin to clean it. it's realllllly simple, but i guess a lot of men don't do it.

my first sexual experience was with an uncut man.. it was MINDBLOWING.. then the next was with a cut cock and i'm like.. geeze.. what's up with this?.. later i had more partners and i realized that the difference was that some were cut and some werent.

also bladder infections are another misconception.. which also isn't true



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RE: foreskin - 4/26/2006 2:40:33 PM   
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Circumsised a couple days after birth (like most males) so had no choice in the matter.  Not that I would change it if I could.  Yes, hygeine is much easier.  Health concerns, chance for STDs, and so on are also reduced.


I work in public health/health care.  This topic comes up a lot (usually after a few beers). Bottom line:  Health issues are probably NOT relevant to the decision to circumcise or not.  Here is the latest info. as best as I can tell:

1.  Penile cancer is virtually unknown in circumcised men.  It is known but EXTREMELY RARE in uncircumcised men.

2.  There is some evidence that cervical cancer rates in the (female, DUH) partners of  uncircumcised men are greater than those in the partners of circumcised men.  But the studies (as in most studies attempting to find "causes" of cancer) are spotty.  NOTE that if you have a political dog in this fight (i.e. you are FOR it or AGAINST it) you will find a ton of web resources discounting these studies, stating alternatives, etc.  But the fact remains that in two limited studies, the rates were statistically significantly different.

3.  Rates of penile infection are greater in uncircumcised men, but this is almost always due to poor hygiene.  Teach little boys how to clean themselves, and so long as they keep cleaning themselves, this issue goes away.

4.  There is a small but present population of men who's foreskins don't retract well, either because the hole in the foreskin is not large enough to allow it to slide under the head when the penis is erect, or because of skin adhesions.  As they grow older, these men might suffer pain and disfiguration if the problem is not corrected.  The most common correction is circumcision, although there are a variety of other methods to ease retra as they

The real issue seems to Me to be one of personal choice, and on some level choice you make for your infant sons.  Do you want your little boy to look like daddy?  Do you circumcise for religious reasons?  Do you abhor "tampering" with nature (in which case I assume your dogs have tails, and undocked ears, and NONE OF YOU pierce anything at all..its "unnatural", you know). 

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(BTW - I have two friends who were circumcised as adults.  IT HURTS.  If you are going to make the choice for your son, at least do it at an early age, when ostensibly it hurts less.)

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RE: foreskin - 4/26/2006 2:52:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Two of my cousins who weren't circumsised as babies had to have it done later - one at 9 and one at 13.  This was one reason I decided to have both my boys done.  Our doctor said there was a genetic component to the problems that can occur with foreskin around early adolescence, so we went with that advice.  We were about 50/50 on the issue before hearing that.

Another interesting story.  A family friend had it done at 16 due to medical reasons also.  He had been sexually active for a few months before it occured, so he has some opinions on the matter.  Apparently, sex is better without foreskin (cleaner, she likes it more, condom was easier to use, etc).  But masturbation was better WITH foreskin.  Therefore, his advice (tongue in cheek) was if you have an ugly baby, leave him his foreskin.  It'll be a nice little treat for him down the road when he's single and jerking off all the time.    Okay, crude joke... sorry.

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RE: foreskin - 4/26/2006 5:16:06 PM   
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I always try to tell myself I am indifferent on the issue, though whenever I use a cut slave I always feel that there is something missing. Apparently the British Medical Association is against circumcision other than on medical grounds and they see no benefit whatsoever in doing it for preventative reasons. It is an unnecessary medical procedure and it is easy to see how it could be extremely traumatic to the child. It is totally untrue that a cut cock is more hygienic than a uncut one all you have to do is wash it like any other body part. I don’t see where people are coming from with the condom is easier to use argument, its not as if it is like trying to do a rubik’s cube or something.

It is not only that it is easier for a man to masturbate with a foreskin it is also easier for people to masturbate him it and it makes a penis such a much more versatile toy, I obviously have no practical experience on this one though apparently the extra skin makes it so much easier on a woman when having sex.

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RE: foreskin - 4/26/2006 8:06:50 PM   
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The real issue seems to Me to be one of personal choice, and on some level choice you make for your infant sons.  Do you want your little boy to look like daddy? 

The real issue to me is that everyone should have the right to determine what their own body looks like and how it functions.  What gives a parent the moral right to mutilate their child, even though the screwed up laws in the U.S. give them the legal right?
i resent my parents every time that i look down and see my mutilated penis.  The foreskin contains up to 30% of the erogenous nerve endings in the penis... that's the only fact that i would ever need to know to make my own decision.

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Do you abhor "tampering" with nature (in which case I assume your dogs have tails, and undocked ears, and NONE OF YOU pierce anything at all..its "unnatural", you know).

Even though i'm as sub as they come, i resent the comparison of male victims of circumcision to animals...

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(BTW - I have two friends who were circumcised as adults.  IT HURTS.  If you are going to make the choice for your son, at least do it at an early age, when ostensibly it hurts less.)

Again, "make the choice for your son," this just makes me ill.  Besides, circumcision at an early age is the WORST time to do it for a number of reasons.  The foreskin of an infant does not retract - it is actually bonded to the glans similar to how a fingernail is bonded to the fingertip - and must literally be torn away.  Is it really a good idea to traumatize a newborn with this type of intense pain, usually without anesthesia?  Also, since the penis of an infant is small and not fully developed, it is difficult for the "surgeon" (usually some clueless med student) to judge exactly how much skin to remove (causing "hairy shaft syndrome"), or worse, to injure the underlying tissues (causing "banana penis").

Obligatory comment relevant to the original discussion:  it would be nice to give my mistress the gift of a foreskin for her to do what she wishes, but that choice was taken away from me.  I'd love to see the look on my mother's face when i explain this to her, and the fact that i might never meet the dominant of my dreams because of it.

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RE: foreskin - 4/26/2006 8:40:35 PM   
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I'd love to see the look on my mother's face when i explain this to her, and the fact that i might never meet the dominant of my dreams because of it.



I know I'm often shallow, and we all have our preferences, but honestly, with all the problems of finding a good sub among the dross, to me the cut, or not, of his male member seems to be a pretty petty deal-breaker, especially, as noted, it's often a decision that was taken out of his hands (so to speak).

*Excuse the run-on sentence. I'm not at my peak these days.



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RE: foreskin - 4/26/2006 9:45:05 PM   
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RE: foreskin - 4/26/2006 10:01:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		how would you know a cut cock is cleaner than not since you have none to compare by. Skin or no prolly does not have any affect on STD's or not. Other wise more women than men would have them, and ha;f the time in most situations its the man who gives his girl the junk.


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Circumsised a couple days after birth (like most males) so had no choice in the matter.  Not that I would change it if I could.  Yes, hygeine is much easier.  Health concerns, chance for STDs, and so on are also reduced.  The look, from most girls I have known, is better.  I don't have a problem with being "desensitized from rubbing against clothing" as someone here suggested, but perhaps it could happen, I'm not sure. 

The only cons of circumsision, in my opinion, are that I believe that all things natural are best.  I don't like fake breasts, dyed hair, strange sexual contraptions that have very little functionality, etc.  So circumsision would fall into the "unnatural" depeartment.  Then again, I like my girls shaved, and that's not exactly natural is it?  :p

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RE: foreskin - 4/27/2006 6:22:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		you know.. there are foreskin restoration procedures.

you may not get the nerves back, but you can restore enough foreskin so your head is always covered which will heighten your sensitivity after a while.




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RE: foreskin - 4/27/2006 7:05:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: EbonyFtshGoddess

you know.. there are foreskin restoration procedures.

you may not get the nerves back, but you can restore enough foreskin so your head is always covered which will heighten your sensitivity after a while.





Wouldn't duct tape do it a whole lot faster?

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RE: foreskin - 4/27/2006 7:15:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		LMAO Duct tape ...

That made me flinch though ... I've heard of some people having nasty allergic reactions to duct tape and a funky looking manly bit is just never a good thing.

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RE: foreskin - 4/27/2006 9:10:45 AM   
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Wouldn't duct tape do it a whole lot faster?


wow that made me cringe.


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RE: foreskin - 4/27/2006 9:13:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tony87654

I'd love to see the look on my mother's face when i explain this to her, and the fact that i might never meet the dominant of my dreams because of it.



I know I'm often shallow, and we all have our preferences, but honestly, with all the problems of finding a good sub among the dross, to me the cut, or not, of his male member seems to be a pretty petty deal-breaker, especially, as noted, it's often a decision that was taken out of his hands (so to speak).

*Excuse the run-on sentence. I'm not at my peak these days.




I agree and frankly can't imagine rejecting someone for how his penis looks... there are so many other reasons I see routinely for not being with someone. When I chose someone it is for many different reasons 99% of which have nothing to do with the penis.

I think men who worry that their penis's size, shape, color, cut or uncut, nature will harm their search for a partner are harming their searches just by being too focused on one thing.

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RE: foreskin - 4/27/2006 10:21:28 AM   
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(BTW - I have two friends who were circumcised as adults. IT HURTS. If you are going to make the choice for your son, at least do it at an early age, when ostensibly it hurts less.)
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ORIGINAL: EbonyFtshGoddess

you know.. there are foreskin restoration procedures.

you may not get the nerves back, but you can restore enough foreskin so your head is always covered which will heighten your sensitivity after a while.





Wouldn't duct tape do it a whole lot faster?

Ron


Ah yes! Redneck Surgery!!! Guarateed to work if you do it in a rusty pick up truck!

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RE: foreskin - 4/27/2006 10:59:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

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ORIGINAL: Misstoyou


I know I'm often shallow, and we all have our preferences, but honestly, with all the problems of finding a good sub among the dross, to me the cut, or not, of his male member seems to be a pretty petty deal-breaker, especially, as noted, it's often a decision that was taken out of his hands (so to speak).

*Excuse the run-on sentence. I'm not at my peak these days.




I agree and frankly can't imagine rejecting someone for how his penis looks... there are so many other reasons I see routinely for not being with someone. When I chose someone it is for many different reasons 99% of which have nothing to do with the penis.

I think men who worry that their penis's size, shape, color, cut or uncut, nature will harm their search for a partner are harming their searches just by being too focused on one thing.


I agree too, there are far more important factors.

It is not routinely done on babies here in Ireland  and you don't hear of that many having to get it done at an older age.

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RE: foreskin - 4/27/2006 11:21:19 AM   
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RE: foreskin - 4/27/2006 11:25:20 AM   
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What does a sick penis look like?  I found that somehow tickling my funnybone.

There was a thread on here (obviously not on this particualar forum) about surgery for ugly pussies.............LOLOL.

I wonder if they have surgery for ugly dicks?  look at my profile, there's the ugly, and see my attitude, there's the dick.......

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RE: foreskin - 4/27/2006 11:38:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		How would I know?  Because I'm in the medical profession and because I read medical journals.  It has nothing to do with holding my cock up against another one and saying to the guy "so... let's talk sexual history, shall we?"  You can try and argue that the experiments and research done was flawed, but at least I'm not just randomly pulling ideas out of my ass and trying to pass them off as truth.

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how would you know a cut cock is cleaner than not since you have none to compare by.

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ORIGINAL: CanadianGuy

Circumsised a couple days after birth (like most males) so had no choice in the matter.  Not that I would change it if I could.  Yes, hygeine is much easier.  Health concerns, chance for STDs, and so on are also reduced.  The look, from most girls I have known, is better.  I don't have a problem with being "desensitized from rubbing against clothing" as someone here suggested, but perhaps it could happen, I'm not sure. 

The only cons of circumsision, in my opinion, are that I believe that all things natural are best.  I don't like fake breasts, dyed hair, strange sexual contraptions that have very little functionality, etc.  So circumsision would fall into the "unnatural" depeartment.  Then again, I like my girls shaved, and that's not exactly natural is it?  :p


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