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ORIGINAL: brokedickdog

Tazzy,

As you can see from some of the response posts there are a lot of folks that are simply in denial in regard to the extent of the frauds, and which parties are perpetrating such. For that reason I don't bother with lengthy, informative posts here anymore. It appears that rule hadn't even read the link you provided when he first responded. That was evident as well for a lot of the folks that responded to my posts. Denial is much easier when one doesn't look at, or expose themselves to, information or evidence that contradicts the uninformed belief they have already decided upon.

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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

There have been multiple cases of filings on the wrong house in just central and south Florida.  Once you start looking you can find where this has been happening all around the country.

Someone writes down the wrong numbers, everyone else is just rubber stamping documents and making up missing papers and the next thing you know some poor family is thrown out of their house for no reason.

If you come home one day and find your locks changed and everything you own gone will you then consider it a "real" problem?

If the banks and mortgage companies can't be bothered to properly complete and file the paperwork (that also includes having the original paperwork they are supposed to possess) then they deserve to learn a few hard lessons.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

There have been multiple cases of filings on the wrong house in just central and south Florida.  Once you start looking you can find where this has been happening all around the country.

Someone writes down the wrong numbers, everyone else is just rubber stamping documents and making up missing papers and the next thing you know some poor family is thrown out of their house for no reason.

If you come home one day and find your locks changed and everything you own gone will you then consider it a "real" problem?

If the banks and mortgage companies can't be bothered to properly complete and file the paperwork (that also includes having the original paperwork they are supposed to possess) then they deserve to learn a few hard lessons.

Explain to me how you pay cash for a home, have a title in your name, and you can lose it as the Bloomberg article claimed.

If you buy a car and pay cash will the dealer be able to come back a month later and repossess your car because they claim you have not made the payments? 

The Bloomberg/Sentinel article was just sensationalism.

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

fr

you mean like returning that note to you when the property is paid for?

Banks lend you NOTHING.

YOU are the ONLY signor on the promissory note!

They float that note on the market and MAKE INTEREST off it as a security and YOU GET NOTHING, well you get the payments.

Imagine that!

Banks make money from loans.

And here I thought they did it just out the goodness of their hearts.

Keep spreading the truth RealOne.

What you must consider is that 224 years of established private property law- is now in question.   Since the banks will get a blanket pardon via congress- the precedent is set for crazy -- claims against private property.

The whole system is suspect now- even if your house has no mortgage on it.

No Pahunk, the whole system is not suspect but there are problems within the system.

If your house is free and clear then you have nothing to worry about, despite what the conspiracy sites you and RealOne like to believe.

Yeh you might have something there!






the problem with having your head in the sand is your ass tends to be in the air for anything that comes along.

After all these years the Dumb ass still does not understand what the Congressional Record is. Really kind of sad.

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

It is nothing but hearsay. Your ignorance is truley astounding.

hearsay is material evidence.


holy shit.

Thanks for the laugh.


It simply means it was said on the floor of congress, it has no authority.



I suppose it is not intentional on your part to omit who was actually saying your highlighted quote.

Just sloppy work by a deluded dumbass.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

It is nothing but hearsay. Your ignorance is truley astounding.

hearsay is material evidence.


holy shit.

Thanks for the laugh.


It simply means it was said on the floor of congress, it has no authority.



I suppose it is not intentional on your part to omit who was actually saying your highlighted quote.

Just sloppy work by a deluded dumbass.

Then property owners of the US will forever sing praise to you if you can show them how they can own property in the jurisdiction of the 50 states  and not pay taxes as a result of ownership of it.

the only way the government can collect taxes from property is by consent.

that said there are only a few ways they can obtain consent

1) contract,
2) referendum,
3) club membership, such that;
the state has a vested interest in your property because your are a club member of a bankrupt state and by the authority of legislation via your representative who made a deal to put your real property up as collateral for the interest, debt and use of printed script of the federal reserve by monetizing it for commercial leverage for loans and block grants from the federalees.
4) deceit

Now the only 2 you cannot get out of paying is the 3 and 4.  referendums are required to come around every time the money is required and a contract you hold in your hand.

So lucky, since you wish to claim this is so out to lunch, how about you explain in detail how someone in the 50 states can own property without paying taxes on it because if that statement is not true there would be no jurisdiction to collect one red cent except for 1 and 2.

On the other hand another approach is to explain what the dollar is backed by?  LOL

good luck on this one

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

There have been multiple cases of filings on the wrong house in just central and south Florida.  Once you start looking you can find where this has been happening all around the country.

Someone writes down the wrong numbers, everyone else is just rubber stamping documents and making up missing papers and the next thing you know some poor family is thrown out of their house for no reason.

If you come home one day and find your locks changed and everything you own gone will you then consider it a "real" problem?

If the banks and mortgage companies can't be bothered to properly complete and file the paperwork (that also includes having the original paperwork they are supposed to possess) then they deserve to learn a few hard lessons.

Explain to me how you pay cash for a home, have a title in your name, and you can lose it as the Bloomberg article claimed.

If you buy a car and pay cash will the dealer be able to come back a month later and repossess your car because they claim you have not made the payments? 

The Bloomberg/Sentinel article was just sensationalism.

It's happened several times. The house was in foreclosure when the owners found a buyer. The mortgage was paid off and the deed should have transfered but the notice never got to the foreclosure people or was ignored by the robo signers. The mortgage company then went to court with robo signed affidavits stating there was a mortgage and that it was in arrears. The judge didn't listen to the homeowner or didn't believe the homeowners and entered the order.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
Bottom line is he didn't lose the home.

Regardless of the problems he was put through, the implication in the story that the banks and mortgage companies can do whatever they want is simply wrong.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
Bottom line is he didn't lose the home.

Regardless of the problems he was put through, the implication in the story that the banks and mortgage companies can do whatever they want is simply wrong.

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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
Bottom line is he didn't lose the home.

Regardless of the problems he was put through, the implication in the story that the banks and mortgage companies can do whatever they want is simply wrong.

So your OK with someone being locked out of their homes for months and having their possessions stolen?

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

It is nothing but hearsay. Your ignorance is truley astounding.

hearsay is material evidence.


holy shit.

Thanks for the laugh.


It simply means it was said on the floor of congress, it has no authority.



I suppose it is not intentional on your part to omit who was actually saying your highlighted quote.

Just sloppy work by a deluded dumbass.

Then property owners of the US will forever sing praise to you if you can show them how they can own property in the jurisdiction of the 50 states  and not pay taxes as a result of ownership of it.

the only way the government can collect taxes from property is by consent.

that said there are only a few ways they can obtain consent

1) contract,
2) referendum,
3) club membership, such that;
the state has a vested interest in your property because your are a club member of a bankrupt state and by the authority of legislation via your representative who made a deal to put your real property up as collateral for the interest, debt and use of printed script of the federal reserve by monetizing it for commercial leverage for loans and block grants from the federalees.
4) deceit

Now the only 2 you cannot get out of paying is the 3 and 4.  referendums are required to come around every time the money is required and a contract you hold in your hand.

So lucky, since you wish to claim this is so out to lunch, how about you explain in detail how someone in the 50 states can own property without paying taxes on it because if that statement is not true there would be no jurisdiction to collect one red cent except for 1 and 2.

On the other hand another approach is to explain what the dollar is backed by?  LOL

good luck on this one

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

Why would I need luck? You ran away from the issue and changed the subject. Almost no one, except for a few dumb ass America haters, want to pay zero taxes (we can debate what level they should be at).

You are hoping a few idiots don't notice you ran away from your assertion (regarding the Congressional Record)


Plus, your new list is simply pulled from your ass, and has no validity at all.


So we have a fellow who keeps lying, and when caught changes the subject.

It really is funny....