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socrates17 -> Question about male subs and male masters (10/17/2010 9:00:13 AM)

I have a question for the other masters out there:

If you are straight, would you, or have you ever dommed another man before? To be honest, I had, for monetary reasons, agreed to do a foot worship session with a man. I am not attracted to men at all, but found myself aroused at being served.

True, it was not the same mind/body/spirit sense of arousal I get when I am with a girl, but still aroused at the thought of being in control over this guy.

Is it considered gay to continue taking sessions with this one client? I am 100% sure that I am not aroused by HIM or his body, but rather by ME dominating him. Just feeling confused.



wittynamehere -> RE: Question about male subs and male masters (10/17/2010 9:06:32 AM)

My dominance is pretty sexually focused. I've never dominated another guy sexually, as I'm not attracted to other men. But I do think there'd be situations and times where a non-sexual kind of control over another guy could happen - it just hasn't (yet?).

As to your question, perhaps you are sexually aroused by the control itself, while not necessarily being sexually aroused by the object of that control? You weren't into him, but you were into dominating him, so to speak.



txurinal -> RE: Question about male subs and male masters (10/17/2010 9:41:57 AM)

As a gay male sub, i have had experiences with being dominated by straight, 100% heterosexual male dominants. Of course i cannot speak for their mindset, but i did not consider them gay at all. And yes, these were mostly a financial arrangement



crazyml -> RE: Question about male subs and male masters (10/17/2010 10:16:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: socrates17
If you are straight, would you, or have you ever dommed another man before?

I dommed a couple once - back in my Boston days. I got a pretty cool sense of satisfaction out of domming the dude, but I wasn't "aroused".

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To be honest, I had, for monetary reasons, agreed to do a foot worship session with a man. I am not attracted to men at all, but found myself aroused at being served.


Well, if the act of domination itself is sexually arousing, then yes - you could rationalise this as something that's completely unrelated to gender.

Now - I have no way of seeing inside your head - but there is a voice inside mine that's shouting "The dude is bi. Bi, Bi, Bisexual!!!". I don't know - but in very simplistic terms, if doing something kinky with another dude results in your being aroused, then you need to confront the possibility that you may be an itty-bit bisexual.

And... there's no problem at all with that, nothing to beat yourself up about, nothing to regret, nothing to be ashamed of.

And if you find yourself agreeing to have a male client blow you, and you drift into dreamland when you splooge down his submissive throat - then again, no drama - no problem.

I've never been sexually attracted to a man, but I really really hope that if one day I found myself wanting to scoff another fella's cock that I'd be man enough to embrace it without feeling guilty or ashamed.

In either case, you may do things professionally that don't arouse you at all, and that's cool - especially if you're professional enough to leave your client satisfied. You may do things that you enjoy simply because you enjoy being dominant, and that's groovy too. You may do things with another man that get you sexually excited, and there's no problem whatsoever with that too.



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leadership527 -> RE: Question about male subs and male masters (10/17/2010 11:37:38 AM)

In the sexual context? No. I generally don't think of dominance in that way and so yes, I've "dommed" lots and lots of males in vanilla, non-intimate contexts.



Wantstocontrolu -> RE: Question about male subs and male masters (10/17/2010 1:35:06 PM)

For me its not about male or female. Its about the control, A male thinks with their cock, its  how they are biologiclly wired. Therefore I will control their cock. It is not about sex. I am bi-sexual but even with everything else equal I would prefur a female bj over a male.
That does not mean I would not enjoy fucking a males ass, but its about control over them, not sexual gratification.



ResidentSadist -> RE: Question about male subs and male masters (10/17/2010 2:39:18 PM)

The old gang back in Detroit (70s-80s) felt if you couldn't accept service from either gender, you were just a swinger with a whip trolling for sex not BDSM.  



Nnytheangel -> RE: Question about male subs and male masters (10/17/2010 9:12:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: socrates17
If you are straight, would you, or have you ever dommed another man before?

Is it considered gay to continue taking sessions with this one client?


Tongue in cheek: That's two questions but it won't be held against you. [;)]

In all seriousness however, to the first question, yes several times. As for the second question, I have to ask one in return: Does it really matter? Orientation is not as black and white as many people tend to make it out to be. Nothing in life truly is. If you are concerned, perhaps you might Google the Kinsey Scale and see where you feel you fall on that, but in all earnestness I would say that if you enjoy it, and no one is severely harmed by it, then why not continue no matter the perception? Far too many people seem concerned about their 'reputation' as far as orientation, when what they should be concerned about is how they act and carry themselves. Far more important in my book.



IronBear -> RE: Question about male subs and male masters (10/19/2010 7:16:51 AM)

At part of and indeed the head of a poly home in which we have had both male and female slaves of which the male was my wife's personal slave and the female was my personal slave, I have needed to dominate male slaves and have no issue in this what so ever. It is far easier when they are also service slaves so the domination is just part of the natural order of a Victorian hierarchy. To this I would add, it is necessary to dominate a male if one wishes to engage in CBT at times.



TotalDiscipline -> RE: Question about male subs and male masters (10/19/2010 10:39:42 AM)

@OP
Never say never...although right now I have no feelings/thoughts about it.



Hillwilliam -> RE: Question about male subs and male masters (10/19/2010 11:28:47 AM)

The closest I have come to that was topping a couple in a cuckold situation where the husband had to watch as I used the wife and then clean her afterwards and thank Me.



Zevar -> RE: Question about male subs and male masters (10/19/2010 2:19:44 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: socrates17

I have a question for the other masters out there:

If you are straight, would you, or have you ever dommed another man before? To be honest, I had, for monetary reasons, agreed to do a foot worship session with a man. I am not attracted to men at all, but found myself aroused at being served.

True, it was not the same mind/body/spirit sense of arousal I get when I am with a girl, but still aroused at the thought of being in control over this guy.

Is it considered gay to continue taking sessions with this one client? I am 100% sure that I am not aroused by HIM or his body, but rather by ME dominating him. Just feeling confused.


Dominance in and of itself is not at all associated, for myself, in a sexual manner. I am heterosexual and even still when in relation with women I do not associate my dominance to being sexual. I am dominant though when I choose to relate sexually with a woman. However being served in a submissive or servile manner by any gender does not equate to a sexual nature for myself.

In my professional work setting I am the leader thus my dominance is asserted in ways that are appropriate for the setting. When related to other men, in particular gay men, I have close friendships with many gay men. However friendship is as far as it goes.

There are times when a gay man in particular is at my Home and he naturally domestically serves my entire Household of guests, I being first. In these times I am clearly dominant toward him in a way that excludes anything related to a sexual nature. Being 100% Heterosexual I am only sexually aroused by submissive females. No exception!

In your case you will surely be the one to search and discover what all of this means for you. I simply encourage you to allow whatever this means to you to be right and true for you and you alone. All any man can do is be who he is and then purpose to live to his highest best.

Take care!



kiwisub12 -> RE: Question about male subs and male masters (10/19/2010 5:30:30 PM)

i have a straight friend, who dominates a straight submissive male - out of the goodness of his heart.   And i mean no sarcasm. The submissive has yet to find his domme, and instead of being completely unfufilled , my friend sessions him in a nonsexual way.   Both get satisfaction from the scene - just not the satisfaction they would get with women.

all-in-all, a win - win situation.



Arpig -> RE: Question about male subs and male masters (10/19/2010 6:28:43 PM)

What does it matter, you enjoy it and he's willing to pay...whore yourself out and have fun



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