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Threat Assessment. - 10/22/2010 2:43:32 PM   
truckinslave


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I was recently derided by people who inferred I consider "threat assessment" and "situational awareness" a matter of normal everyday life. Their inferrence was correct, their derision stupid.

Not too long ago at all I was driving in the middle of the night when I saw the brake lights of a car stopping above my lane on the near side of an overpass a short distance ahead. Just a country highway crossing the superslab; no exit or onramp to the highway. "damn" I thought to myself, "funny place to set up radar". The car door opened and the dome light came on (that was his only real mistake; I might well be dead had he removed the dome light bulb). I could see that the roof line of the car was awfully low, that the car was white. "Awfully small squad car" I said to myself. The driver stood up. seemed short, was definately white and fit. Maybe a body builder. Wearing a tight red/orange t-shirt. "Oh FUCK" I said to myself, because I KNEW. I never saw a weapon, I never really thought it through, but all the little clues I now recognize added up for me subconciously. And, even though it's been 35 years, almost, since I wore either a military or police uniform, and over ten years since I did any bounty hunting, really, I trusted my gut enough to act.


Not that there was much I could do. I threw my right arm up to shield my eyes and jerked the truck as hard as I dared toward the left lane (situational awareness, remember. I also knew there was nothing behind/beside me). As I briefly debated slamming on the brakes ("Bullet v. brick" was the question), the brick hit the righthand windshield (many truck windshield are divided). The new, trilaminate windshields are also quite strong. The "plastic" middle layer does an unbelievable job of keeping the thing together as a sheet. Even so, the projectile knocked about a 1" hole in the very bottom of the windshield, then put a deep depression in the center of it as it bounced/rolled over the top. The center half of the righthand windshield was completely opaqued, the rest was severely spiderwebbed. When I cleaned up I had little slivers of glass in my lap and hair, but my arm had gotten up in time to shield my eyes. My swerve left had kept the brick from hitting my side of the windshield.

That old brokedick truck was governed at 65, but had I lost another half-second adding things up (no headlights, parked on wrong side of bridge, size of car etc etc) I would have been driving a loaded truck at 65MPH with my eyes full of glass.

People- not just soldiers, not just cops- who do not possess situational awareness, who do not routinely, subconsciously do threat assessment- are the statistics found in the "victim" column. And the morgue.

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RE: Threat Assessment. - 10/22/2010 2:48:22 PM   
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Interesting story, truckin.

I agree about situational awareness.  Learned it in the military, and it's saved my rear end on numerous occasions.

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RE: Threat Assessment. - 10/22/2010 2:58:36 PM   
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Thanks Firm.
Sooner or later the veracity of the story will be questioned.
Is there a liberal here I can trust to verify it without outing me? I have a couple ideas but no real experience with the libs here.
Feel free to PM, of course.

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RE: Threat Assessment. - 10/22/2010 3:21:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

Thanks Firm.
Sooner or later the veracity of the story will be questioned.
Is there a liberal here I can trust to verify it without outing me? I have a couple ideas but no real experience with the libs here.
Feel free to PM, of course.





I do not know if your OP is true or not, but it is a fine example of the little shit, that anyone who has ever served in the military has drummed into them from about the first week of basic training. 

Where I worked when 9-11 happened was filled with people that had never served, in fact except for me, and three, or four others the majority of the 39 employees were "civilians".  In late June 2002 those of us that did serve were asked if we thought the July 4th celebration in Philadelphia would be safe.  We all replied in a bit different wording : "If you see a dude with a trench coat on, and smell fertilizer and diesel fuel, you need to move away,  as quickly and surreptitiously as possible.  Then as soon as your more than 100 yards (meters) away see a police officer."

The dumbfounded look of people asking why fertilizer and diesel was priceless.  Apparently they either forgot, or never paid attention to the device that destroyed the Alfred P. Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City.

This mentality is not exclusive to any one political ideology, it is exclusive though to "civilians".   So before we judge anyone we really need to ask ourselves  if the person has ever been trained in situational awareness.

Most People have NOT.




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RE: Threat Assessment. - 10/22/2010 3:29:15 PM   
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I reply not to agree but only to note that the OP was completely free of any political implication.

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2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Threat Assessment. - 10/22/2010 3:35:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

I reply not to agree but only to note that the OP was completely free of any political implication.



I didn't think I made (nor meant to make) that accusation, I was attempting though, to cut off any snark that might have come from either "side" about the other.

You have to remember since the advent of the all volunteer military, most American's of any ideology choose not to serve.  We that have done time in the military do tend to take for granted shit the average civilian never thinks of.



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RE: Threat Assessment. - 10/22/2010 3:41:42 PM   
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I haven't heard the term "situational awareness", but I am a big believer in always being aware of your surroundings. I have taken the IMPACT self defense course and have read "the Gift of Fear (Gavin DeBecker)" I recommend it to everyone I speak to about the subject about personal safety.

Your story (event? I don't disbelieve you) highlights that intuition and PAYING ATTENTION can keep us so much safer that worrying about the bogeyman and not trusting our instincts. Good Job for you.

ETA: I'm a Vet, too.

I was thinking that I didn't have any examples of avoiding danger for myself, but then I remembered talking myself out of a date rape situation and avoiding being date rape-drugged (separate occassions). Those would qualify as being situationally aware, I think.

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RE: Threat Assessment. - 10/22/2010 3:44:13 PM   
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Personally, I pride myself on my bullshit awareness.

Nice story though.

Take you long to think it up?

I hope it didn't give you a headache.

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RE: Threat Assessment. - 10/22/2010 4:12:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Personally, I pride myself on my bullshit awareness.

Nice story though.

Take you long to think it up?

I hope it didn't give you a headache.



I tried to circumvent snark, apparently it did not work.  Oh well another "well meaning liberal" effort has failed.

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RE: Threat Assessment. - 10/22/2010 4:27:21 PM   
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It's hard not to snark at deliberate bullshit.

But my training has given me a keen sense of bullshit awareness, so I am always vigilant.

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RE: Threat Assessment. - 10/22/2010 5:16:54 PM   
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Wow, why would someone want to throw a brick theough your window?
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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

Even so, the projectile knocked about a 1" hole in the very bottom of the windshield, then put a deep depression in the center of it as it bounced/rolled over the top. The center half of the righthand windshield was completely opaqued, the rest was severely spiderwebbed. When I cleaned up I had little slivers of glass in my lap and hair, but my arm had gotten up in time to shield my eyes. My swerve left had kept the brick from hitting my side of the windshield.

That old brokedick truck was governed at 65, but had I lost another half-second adding things up (no headlights, parked on wrong side of bridge, size of car etc etc) I would have been driving a loaded truck at 65MPH with my eyes full of glass.



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RE: Threat Assessment. - 10/22/2010 5:25:48 PM   
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perhaps they knew him ?

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RE: Threat Assessment. - 10/22/2010 5:41:57 PM   
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I had heard of it before; I assume most truckers have. There was a rash of this in Atlanta in the ... 70? Also a sniper that set up in curves so that he had clear lines of sight at his targets and didn't have to worry so much about leading them. Late 80s? There are people who think that the way to feel better is to kill someone. I'm also sure that there's someone somewhere who lost his family to a truck driver and wants some sort of revenge.
It made me do some thinking. I've been attacked before. Nam, more or less (I was in a couple convoys that were sort of hit-and-run ambushed). Robbed, as a drunk. Whatever... there was some sort of discernible reason. I thought about my life as a practicing alcoholic, how I always had an "enemies list", people who had done me some harm, great or small, real or (mostly) imagined, how I dreamed and plotted of violent revenge. I never followed through on any of that sick shit but mean and twisted as I was, I never once thought that the solution to my rage and pain was random murder.
I cannot imagine where that mans head is.

But I can and have prayed for him. Whether or not it helped him, it makes me feel better to do so.

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2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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