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Lucylastic -> Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/29/2010 5:48:45 PM)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/29/voter-intimidation-mcdonalds-republican_n_776187.html http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2010/10/gop_paycheck_politicking_gives.html The owner of a franchise in Canton, Ohio enclosed a handbill in employees' paychecks that threatened lower wages and benefits if Republicans don't win on Tuesday. "As the election season is here we wanted you to know which candidates will help our business grow in the future," reads the letter. "As you know, the better our business does it enables us to invest in our people and our restaurants. If the right people are elected we will be able to continue with raises and benefits at or above our present levels. If others are elected, we will not. As always, who you vote for is completely your personal decision and many factors go into your decision." The note ends with a list of candidates McDonald's believes "will help our business move forward." It names Republicans John Kasich for governor, Rob Portman for Senate, and Jim Renacci for Congress. With the letter was a biography of Renacci. To be fair, Macdonalds didnt do this and the hap has apologised, but seriously, can this election season get any more ridicuous???

KenDckey -> RE: Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/29/2010 6:12:40 PM)
Glad to see it was forwarded to somebody for legal investigation IAW the law and potential criminal charges.

DarkSteven -> RE: Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/29/2010 7:44:07 PM)
So if Dems get elected, then jobs at McDonalds are in danger? If fast food jobs are on the line, the economy is in terrible shape.

LanceHughes -> RE: Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/29/2010 8:27:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic <snipped>..... but seriously, can this election season get any more ridicuous??? You want ridiculous???? Try this on for size: From the Wall Street Journal: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303341904575576192201885522.html Ballot Initiative 300 would require the city [of Denver] to set up an Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission, to "ensure the health, safety and cultural awareness of Denver residents" when it comes to future contact "with extraterrestrial intelligent beings or their vehicles." And here's the real problem.... most are checking "YES" just to see what will happen.... :::SIGH:::

Lucylastic -> RE: Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/29/2010 8:39:04 PM)
for ridiculous... yep that takes the biscuit but for creepy, the vote or else idea wins, I hope he gets his ass handed to him on a plate nice to see you back btw Lance:)

thishereboi -> RE: Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/30/2010 5:28:36 AM)
I have had a couple of employers on both sides, try and get us to vote one way or another. I just ignored them. If they want to give me their opinion on an upcoming election that is fine, as long as they can't follow me into the booths, why would I care.

flcouple2009 -> RE: Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/30/2010 5:48:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi I have had a couple of employers on both sides, try and get us to vote one way or another. I just ignored them. If they want to give me their opinion on an upcoming election that is fine, as long as they can't follow me into the booths, why would I care. The catch there is I would like to think that your brighter than the average fast food worker.

DomKen -> RE: Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/30/2010 6:14:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/29/voter-intimidation-mcdonalds-republican_n_776187.html http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2010/10/gop_paycheck_politicking_gives.html The owner of a franchise in Canton, Ohio enclosed a handbill in employees' paychecks that threatened lower wages and benefits if Republicans don't win on Tuesday. "As the election season is here we wanted you to know which candidates will help our business grow in the future," reads the letter. "As you know, the better our business does it enables us to invest in our people and our restaurants. If the right people are elected we will be able to continue with raises and benefits at or above our present levels. If others are elected, we will not. As always, who you vote for is completely your personal decision and many factors go into your decision." The note ends with a list of candidates McDonald's believes "will help our business move forward." It names Republicans John Kasich for governor, Rob Portman for Senate, and Jim Renacci for Congress. With the letter was a biography of Renacci. To be fair, Macdonalds didnt do this and the hap has apologised, but seriously, can this election season get any more ridicuous??? The owner should be looking at criminal charges. This definitely violates Ohio election law.

truckinslave -> RE: Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/30/2010 8:55:06 AM)
quote: This definitely violates Ohio election law. I don't see how that can possibly be true. You don't see even a teensy weensy 1st Amendment conflict if handing out leaflets and saying certain candidates are good for business is illegal?

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/30/2010 9:01:23 AM)
If this was illegal then every union official in the country should be in jail. This thread is ridiculous. You better fucking believe that if the GOP doesnt take control of the House the economy will tank even further and jobs, including fast food jobs, will be in jepardy.

DomKen -> RE: Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/30/2010 9:25:55 AM)
quote: No employer or his agent or a corporation shall print or authorize to be printed upon any pay envelopes any statements intended or calculated to influence the political action of his or its employees; or post or exhibit in the establishment or anywhere in or about the establishment any posters, placards, or hand bills containing any threat, notice, or information that if any particular candidate is elected or defeated work in the establishment will cease in whole or in part, or other threats expressed or implied, intended to influence the political opinions or votes of his or its employees. http://law.onecle.com/ohio/elections/3599.05.html So yes, it is definitely illegal.

slvemike4u -> RE: Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/30/2010 9:28:52 AM)
Something about having recieved said electioneering along with one's paycheck might/perhaps/could be construed as undue influence/pressure on the employee. Of course one would need to be an idiot not to see that.

mnottertail -> RE: Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/30/2010 9:31:30 AM)
If someone ever put that shit in my pay envelope they would be picking their teeth out of their shit, mopping thier nose tie, and you could pick up whats left of them with donut napkins.

slvemike4u -> RE: Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/30/2010 9:33:02 AM)
Ron....do you per chance work at Dunkin Donuts?

truckinslave -> RE: Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/30/2010 11:20:56 AM)
quote: Of course one would need to be an idiot not to see that. Of course one would need to be an idiot to think such speculation trumps the First Amendment. I bet you're for card check, too.

truckinslave -> RE: Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/30/2010 11:22:16 AM)
Can I come by and borrow one of your pay envelopes. I promise to give it back.

Lucylastic -> RE: Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/30/2010 11:59:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy If this was illegal then every union official in the country should be in jail. This thread is ridiculous. You better fucking believe that if the GOP doesnt take control of the House the economy will tank even further and jobs, including fast food jobs, will be in jepardy. Ridiculous? why?? cos you dont believe it, sorry but your ridiculous is factual information. just becaus you dont like it, is just so much chaff.

truckinslave -> RE: Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/30/2010 12:49:58 PM)
The idea that this is untoward, much less illegal, is ridiculous.

joether -> RE: Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/30/2010 12:56:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy If this was illegal then every union official in the country should be in jail. This thread is ridiculous. You better fucking believe that if the GOP doesnt take control of the House the economy will tank even further and jobs, including fast food jobs, will be in jepardy. Really? The economy is tanking right now? All the reports I'm seeing is the economy is getting better (leading & trailing indicators). May not be at 'light speed' as you demand, Mr. 'Instant Gratification-olic', but the economy is improving. Fast food jobs, like many other low paying wages, are not in jeopardy right now. If they were, this economy would be in a depression! Maybe you just want the economy to stay bad, willbeurdaddy?

Lucylastic -> RE: Voter intimidation at McDonalds?? nah but close (10/30/2010 1:03:58 PM)
strange that that Ken posted the link to ohio law, and you still think its not untoward?why am I not surprised. I wouldnt wanna be that franchise owner tho

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