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Shocking.and Not.Sad. but interesting. - 10/29/2010 6:13:03 PM   
Aneirin


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfpQNfcRE1o

Watch it go nuts in '51 and again at the end of the '50s.

But as a result of all that, underground and above ground, are we now starting to reap the after effects, as all that heat and vibration has just got to have done something in the long run.


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RE: Shocking.and Not.Sad. but interesting. - 10/30/2010 7:33:54 PM   
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As I was watching this, I wondered how much of our climate change is an after affect of all these detonations (and fallout).

I found the escalation of activity in Aug of 1961 to be interesting (The Berlin wall went (13 Aug '61) up and I believe the Cuban Missile Crisis was in July of '61).

I was looking for an escalation in '80-'84 that I couldn't really detect. I was in the Army then and that's when the anxiety of the Doomsday Clock was at a fever pitch. I forget what year in the 80's a survey of US school children was made public that revealed most children thought they were going to die by nuclear war.

Thank you so much for posting this!! The breadth of information I get from CM is astounding.

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RE: Shocking.and Not.Sad. but interesting. - 10/31/2010 8:51:43 AM   
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Yep, that's what I meant about reaping the effects of all that nuclear testing, earth quakes, volcanos, weather patterns and of course the warming cooling thing some scientists say is happening but others say is not.

All that heat that turns rock to ash, where did all go, oh absorbed by our atmosphere it can cope, but can it, it seems not where cfc's are concerned that or C02 and then what about the radiation and other residues of a nuclear explosion.

Below ground, well we know tectonic plates are always on the move, but they move so slowly and an earthquake is the vibration from plates grinding against each other, but it is so slow in it's action, say a tremendous instantaneous vibration is set up in the earth, the result of an underground nuclear detonation, how far do those vibrations travel and what do they act upon along the way.

I noticed with interest the sheer number of nuclear detonations I assume below ground on the western seaboard of the USA, area 51 perhaps and with reports of California being on a unstable fault line I am thinking about those underground nuclear detonations.

Because nothing yet perhaps obvious has happened that can be attributed to the testing, or the arms race wall pissing and dick waving as I believed it to be, who says we will not yet reap the after effects of people perhaps long gone or at least in another even safer part of the country/world.

It would be sadly ironic if at some point we realise the futility of war, resign it to the trash can of history and start living  with peace to all men that the next war that will assault us is the planet reacting to our past stupidities.

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.


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RE: Shocking.and Not.Sad. but interesting. - 11/2/2010 3:25:33 PM   
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Shameless bump!!

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RE: Shocking.and Not.Sad. but interesting. - 11/2/2010 6:23:17 PM   
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I wonder how accurate this is...They were showing detontations in Florida, Alabama, Georgia...I don't remember there be a test site in those states. All of underground tests that the US conducted were in Nevada. Of course there is not much there...

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RE: Shocking.and Not.Sad. but interesting. - 11/2/2010 6:44:31 PM   
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If you read the information at the end it says it's compiled from actual data, even if the video itself is created as an artistic representation.

It was like two organizations... Swedish Defense Establishment and the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute. And some guys who's names I can't pronounce.

Scariest thing for me is... I thought there had only been a few HUNDRED Nuclear tests since the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings... not flipping 2,000. You wonder how many people are actually aware of just how many nuclear bomb tests there have been? And how much MONEY DID THIS COST?! Jeeze, the government could pay for all college education for twenty YEARS with how much they must have been spending on building those very expensive bombs and then setting them off to get their jollies off!

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