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ServiceNTucson -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 12:06:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck

I look at chastity as neither a sign of trust or distrust and more of a reminder of Who has the control. Nothing reminds one more of their place when My sub walks into the rest room and must sit down to attend to the most natural of bodily functions. By owning and controling such an essential part of their "manhood" it serves as reminder that they are owned fully. I've never come across a sub/slave/cuck that didn't agree to at least try it and find themselves loving it in the end. While perhaps not for everyone I do find it works quite well to remind one of their place at the most vanilla of situations.




Ms Jo,

Very well put.  Having worn a CB for an extended period of time, I can say that the wearer can never forget for more than a minute that it's there.  And, being constantly reminded of the fact of its presense, he is constantly reminded of the reason for its presense.

It has a wonderful way of keeping a male's mind focused on what he is and Who he belongs to.




SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 12:23:18 AM)

Thanks ServiceNTuscon, I find it also helps in their brain focusing elsewhere as well. After all once any and all decisions regarding masturbation or the ability of when they'll be able to do so next are removed the brain finds more time and other pursuits in which to concentrate and focus on. One sub was always just being passed over for promotion time and time again...put into chastity he worked harder, focused more and spent far less time daydreaming. 3 months later the next promotion was his. Again its an individual situation. I make it clear from the start its a must.




ServiceNTucson -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 12:39:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck

Thanks ServiceNTuscon, I find it also helps in their brain focusing elsewhere as well. After all once any and all decisions regarding masturbation or the ability of when they'll be able to do so next are removed the brain finds more time and other pursuits in which to concentrate and focus on. One sub was always just being passed over for promotion time and time again...put into chastity he worked harder, focused more and spent far less time daydreaming. 3 months later the next promotion was his. Again its an individual situation. I make it clear from the start its a must.



Ms Jo,

Yes, there is that too.  I'm sure you've heard the old joke of God saying to Adam, "I've got good news and bad news.  The good news is that I've given you both a brain and a penis.  The bad news is that I've only given you enough blood to use one of them at a time."

I've been saying for years that the reason so many men put pictures of their penises rather than their faces on the internet, and send them to Women, is because they want to show off the head where they keep their brains.

When the blood of a man wearing a CB starts migrating to his penis, he's instantly punished for it.  In a CB there just isn't any room for brains in the little head, so we have to use the big one instead.




mechbot972007 -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 6:07:10 AM)

I have to agree to the fact that a man kept in a cb has a lot more to show for his time than a gooey hand! I am one of those subs that I am in full compliance, until I cum. then my sub side (which once in a 24/7 should be the only side) is squelched and i return to the vanilla man. I am of mind that once a sub has agreed to serve, that would be his last decision. If more people adhered to that rule, you would have more people thinking about their place in the sub/Dom relationship before just jumping in. Thus causing fewer relationships, but the ones that were in relationships would be stronger and be life long. The decision is not the subs it lies with the Domes who enjoys and cherishes her property.
Respectfully
chris




Najakcharmer -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 10:35:11 AM)

Of course!  All REAL DOMMES keep their subs in permanent chastity, flog people all the time, walk everywhere in 6' high heels and dress like Catwoman 24 hours a day.  And they NEVER eat quiche. 

I've never actually met one of these mythical REAL DOMMES outside an Internet chat room, where they seem to abound.  But I'm sure that if you ever found one in the real world, you'd be totally set for life.  [8D]

/tongue-in-cheek mode off

Controlling a submissive's sexuality in the long term on the physical level can be a very effective tool in a BDSM relationship. It's a fairly big ball o'wax, with complex psychological and physiological safety issues that need paying attention to.  I don't recommend it for novice players who haven't yet settled into their "reality groove", if only because you can cause someone serious physical damage if your expectations are unrealistic and your experience minimal.  Heck, you can cause YOURSELF damage this way. 

For the experienced player who is willing to take the time (and spend the money) necessary to properly fit and maintain a chastity device, it's a very powerful and effective tool.  It's not one that will necessarily appeal to or fit in with some types of D/s relationship dynamics.  Also, speaking from experience, these toys can be fiddly and difficult to adjust properly.  You're always walking a fine line between safety, effectiveness and cost.  If the belt is truly effective, eg, it can't be defeated or slipped out of, there can be a real risk of damage caused by long term constriction or pinching.  Skin ulcers are *not* sexy and neither is nerve damage.  If the belt is safe and comfortable enough for everyday wear for a guy who needs to keep functioning on the job in the real world, it's probably a security risk.  It can be very difficult to find a device that does fit perfectly and is both secure and safe for long term wear.

You can solve some but not all of these issues by throwing serious money at them, since the first device you try might not be the perfect fit for the anatomy in question but the second or third may be.  But that gets bloody expensive, and depending on the anatomical configurations there are still no guarantees by the second or third or fourth time you spend from $150 to $1,000 on one of these non returnable toys.   I've just started experimenting and researching on this issue myself, and I'm coming to the unfortunate conclusion that without permanent body modification, some anatomical configurations may simply not work for both safe and effective chastity, not with any of the standard rigid models available on the market. 




LadyJulieAnn -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 10:41:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: understud

Respectfully; other than for play time, if i had submitted to another, and this demand was made  of me...it would be an indication that my word was meaningless. More than that; as i had pledged to them, they thought i had lied when doing it.  If others agree to lock and key chastity, good for them ..to each their own.  My word is the most secure chastity i can think of, if i have become theirs; no other bond  or chastity belt is needed. 
 
respectful always



I agree with you, understud.  I've never used chastity devices, but prefer my sub to resist touching himself because I have told him he needs my permission to do so.  To me it shows a greater level of submission when a sub has to consciously make that decision to keep his hands elsewhere.
 
Be well,
Julie




Reasonable -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 10:52:28 AM)

The biggest danger in using this method, is that the sub may so effectively sublimate his sex drive as a coping mechanism-that he becomes impotent.

As in all things,moderation.




LadyHugs -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 11:09:15 AM)


Dear AZCuckieWannabe, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
As for me and my personal observations and opinions, I would prefer not to have a male in chastity devices for the following reasons:
 
1. My slave’s/submissive type’s word is their bond. It is their contract to me. It is a matter of honor and honesty, that they will follow my wishes concerning their genitals. If they can’t keep their word on something small--I doubt if they will keep their word on bigger things.
 
2. I prefer having a man’s genitals free for many reasons; such as hygiene issues, medical issues and most of all--So I can put my mitts on his genitals at any time without having to be thwarted by some device. I think Chastity devices for men is just armor against a woman’s sadistic pleasure upon their genitals.
 
3. Some Chastity devices for men give a false sense of security that a male will not sexually stray. However, some devices have been proven by men themselves, ineffective as they worm their flaccid cocks and manipulate their balls out of it. Just depends on the model and or the man.
 
I prefer demonstrating for male slaves/submissive types what may happen if they stray. I take a fake phallus; take my axe and chop it.
 
Visual aids to work nicely.
 

Respectfully submitted,
Lady Hugs
 




SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 11:21:20 AM)

I prefer demonstrating for male slaves/submissive types what may happen if they stray. I take a fake phallus; take my axe and chop it.
 
Visual aids to work nicely.

Love it Lady Hugs! I will definitely be using this one in future. again, I use chastity not out of mistrust or fear of straying...I enjoy it. Point blank and simple.
 
 




mechbot972007 -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 3:03:54 PM)


A good friend (a Dom) told me once, that we all are on a search. We are searching for the other side of the coin. I of course asked too many questions (I was very young 27 at the time), which side are we (meaning us men)? Were we the heads the tails the inside the outside the flat side the rounded side? Once he quieted my fear (which multi answers generate), he told me it did not really matter as to the side you were as long as you found the other side that made you fit.

Now as to the issue of chastity belts, it is another gift that a sub has to offer a Domme. Funny thing is that most Domme’s dismiss chastity belts as to being restrictive on the male form. That the male sub can be trusted to give his word to restrain from self-emissions, some subs can. The question is why would you give him that ability? Of course, this goes to different levels of interest, skills, time and feelings within the relationship.

I am no expert, nor do I claim to know it all. However, we are all different as the many sides of the coin.
Respectfully
chris




SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 5:11:06 PM)

Well said mechbot972007 in reference to the other side of the coin however...

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Now as to the issue of chastity belts, it is another gift that a sub has to offer a Domme. Funny thing is that most Domme’s dismiss chastity belts as to being restrictive on the male form. That the male sub can be trusted to give his word to restrain from self-emissions, some subs can. The question is why would you give him that ability? Of course, this goes to different levels of interest, skills, time and feelings within the relationship.

 
I'm not sure if that was in reference to Me or a general observation for the rest of the commentors. My point is that I don't give My subs the ability. Its My preference and My choice...not his. I'm a proponent of chastity so I'm a bit confused as to why this was in reply to Me.




SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 5:30:17 PM)

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 I've just started experimenting and researching on this issue myself, and I'm coming to the unfortunate conclusion that without permanent body modification, some anatomical configurations may simply not work for both safe and effective chastity, not with any of the standard rigid models available on the market. 


Najakcharmer
 
I have to agree with you one this, I tend towards the piercing form of chastity device over any of the mass produced commercially sold models, even the made to order or custom fit models. As discovered after fitting a slave with a Tollyboy belt during a trip to Europe years ago...bodies change and weight fluctuates. Not to mention the impossibility of getting past any type of security screening in the Post 9/11 world we now live in. Piercings are light weight, unobtrusive and still an effectual  reminder. The safest, most comfortable and most effect form of chastity I've yet to find for long term use. I also look at as a form of commitment (as is any form of bod mod like tats, brands etc.) because of its permanence. Since I deal with the cuckold aspect impotence isnt an issue with me to any degree and I've yet to see any sort of nerve damage or sores with the piercing type since cleanliness is far more easily achieved than with say a CB2000, 3000, Curve or even the Mistress Lori Chastity tubes.Would be happy to discuss this with you privately if you would like any further information regarding them from personal experience.




WeeIttyBitty -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 5:41:57 PM)

Iam thinking of getting a cb3000 for myself shortly. I was also thinking of using the keepsake security upgrade with it. (available thru tickleberry.com)

Any thoughts on these devices for long term - uninterrupted wear? (3 months +)




MistressLorelei -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 5:55:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: understud

Respectfully; other than for play time, if i had submitted to another, and this demand was made  of me...it would be an indication that my word was meaningless. More than that; as i had pledged to them, they thought i had lied when doing it.  If others agree to lock and key chastity, good for them ..to each their own.  My word is the most secure chastity i can think of, if i have become theirs; no other bond  or chastity belt is needed. 
 
respectful always



As someone who is very fond of chastity devices, I wanted to add a pro chastity thought, as I don't think in most cases it's a trust issue, or that he has not given himself fully to another.   I would never be involved with  a submsisive I don't trust.  It's more about the emotional connection, and the power and control exchanged.  Aside from all of the wonderful benefits already posted here that a chastity device can bring (a stronger natural desire to please, a more demure, focused submissive, a constant awareness and bond to the keyholder),  I also see chastity as a male giving up his ability to get an  erection unless instructed to do so.   I think that while a wonderful submissive will be loyal and not masturbate without permission, he may not be able to control his automatic response.  A thought, a touch, a photograph,.. all could trigger an erection.  The right chastity device sends a message that he no longer has control of that automatic response.

To answer the OP....  should a submissive male be in chastity?  Depends on the  Domina, the submissive and the relationship.  Should My submissive be in chastity... Yes.




Najakcharmer -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 6:00:33 PM)

Ms. Jo:  Thank you for the kind offer.  Hell yeah, I could definitely use some advice from a sistah who's had more experience with chastity toys.  I'd like to be able to make one work with my current subbie, but this just isn't an area I've played with in the past, and the technical difficulties have been annoying and frustrating to say the least.

I don't want to pierce this subbie.  I've been there done that before, but the "natural look" works better on this boy.  It'll be a branding for him, eventually.  ;)  But no piercing.






SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 6:17:11 PM)

weeittybitty,

I will email both you and Najakcharmer privately through Cm so that O/our discussion doesn't impolitely take over the thread. Not at all My intention azcuckwannabe. Hope the input was helpful.




WeeIttyBitty -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 8:50:11 PM)

I dont think there is a proper answer to 'should a sub be or do something'. Ultimately its upto the people involved what the sub should be doing. Everybody else doesnt matter.




understud -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 9:10:34 PM)

As someone who is very fond of chastity devices, I wanted to add a pro chastity thought, as I don't think in most cases it's a trust issue, or that he has not given himself fully to another.   I would never be involved with  a submsisive I don't trust.  It's more about the emotional connection, and the power and control exchanged.  Aside from all of the wonderful benefits already posted here that a chastity device can bring (a stronger natural desire to please, a more demure, focused submissive, a constant awareness and bond to the keyholder),  I also see chastity as a male giving up his ability to get an  erection unless instructed to do so.   I think that while a wonderful submissive will be loyal and not masturbate without permission, he may not be able to control his automatic response.  A thought, a touch, a photograph,.. all could trigger an erection.  The right chastity device sends a message that he no longer has control of that automatic response.

To answer the OP....  should a submissive male be in chastity?  Depends on the  Domina, the submissive and the relationship.  Should My submissive be in chastity... Yes
i believe i have trouble understanding. Chastity is the prevention of sexual fulfilment; or so imho believe. the above describes thought control; again imho.  Anything might trigger an inadvertent arousal, hence chastity, to prevent fulfillment.
respectfully; i am a submissive, mind control is more the purview of slaves, and may i say bless each and everuone of them, to each their own, eh, as they freely relinquish and control whatsoever. as to any inadvertent erection proper; that is all it is, unless acted upon. Perhaps taken in hand might be a better choice of words. Nevertheless; only and only if acted upon by consciously ejaculating would i be in violation of any such demand, again imho.  As i shall not...would not ...nor will not  engage in any such action that would compromise my word, my sworn solemn word; i believe the discussion is now one of mind control. i am a submissive; not a mind numbed automaton. With deepest respects and some small amount of confusion...i submit; what more can be demanded; other than mind control.  That said i see on problem as i stated before, if used in short staged scenes or for impromptu play with prior consent.  if a may also say a most enlightening discussion
 
respectfully
understud




understud -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 9:14:27 PM)

stupid me had sent a reply askew i believe it will post two down to Najackcharmer...so sorry but i am new afterall...please forgive,




AZCuckieWannabe -> RE: Male chastity (4/29/2006 10:03:32 PM)

Thank You for your consideration. I see the question has prompted a thread that's taken on a life of it's own, and i am finding all of the thoughts and input very interesting and illuminating. I greatly appreciate all of the responses that You have contributed, and welcome You to continue doing so.

John from Phoenix.




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