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RE: Why do we endure the pain? - 4/27/2006 1:29:42 PM   
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Pain, if combined with pleasure, makes me feel more real and alive. It free me from reality by letting me be more real (yes...paradox i know).
I believe there is a point you have to reach beyond the pain to truely enjoy it. It's more psychologic then physic (when is it not?), but for me, pain is a way of losing myself in the hands of someone and that losing makes me more...me.
So why do i endure it? Cause i enjoy it.

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RE: Why do we endure the pain? - 4/27/2006 5:28:24 PM   
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Honestly i have never simply endured the pain, i embrace, it flows over my senses and heightens my arousal to a fever pitch.

I am in a 24/7 TPE M/M/s relationship where service is expected from the heart, not from fear of punishment, so my views may be different. We do practice sadomasochism because we love it. We would still be an M/M/s poly household without it.

I am a masochist, i am perfectly capable and do enjoy sensual pain. For me this is not nor is it used as punishment. I reach that level where you have crossed the line between pleasure and pain so often that the line disintegrates. To me the pain is felt as a heightened more intense pleasure. Honestly i can cum from many forms of pain.

Never do i feel like i am taking it for them, nor do they do it solely to please themselves. Yes both Master and Mistress enjoy the usual whipping, flogging, violet wands, zippers etc. Yet neither of them wishes to inflict pain that is not translated as pleasure.   



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RE: Why do we endure the pain? - 4/27/2006 5:59:01 PM   
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Great thread and a topic I have been thinking on a lot lately. I’m less than two months living 24/7 D/s with my Master and we have played with a growing intensity in that time. I would say that in the first few weeks I didn’t much like the pain at all because it HURTS really bad!! I wanted to fight or escape. I do get incredibly aroused by it though. I crave his words and hands on me during and afterwards. I haven’t been to subspace yet, because we both feel we just haven’t played long or intense enough yet. My Joe is taking it slow so as not to do something so wrong it can’t be undone. I respect that even when I wish it was more so I could have subspace and know where my true limits lie.

I have in the last couple of weeks begun to change in my thoughts on dealing with pain. I started to crave it. I remember the night I was in bed and not only was I wanting sexual release I was also craving the pain. I was amazed at that feeling within myself. I wanted him to hurt me!

When I got my first marks last week those hurt as any intense pain does. But, the pride I felt at having endured the pain and the pleasure my Master had with me was so worth it. It’s sort of like having a baby. You cuss and writhe vowing to “never do that shit” again. Then when it’s over and you have that sweetness in your arms you are ready to go again.

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RE: Why do we endure the pain? - 4/27/2006 8:23:50 PM   
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Wow - thanks for all of the great responses.  This has been very helpful for me - clarified what I was feeling, but could not name. 


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RE: Why do we endure the pain? - 4/27/2006 8:32:22 PM   
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we do it because it shows us and O/others that our Owners have total control ver us. if it should please our Owners then we do it. we surrender ourselves to our Owners. we give Them our all. i feel liberated when i give myself to Master,Sir. i get great  pleasure from seeing Him happy and pleased.

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RE: Why do we endure the pain? - 4/28/2006 1:39:30 AM   
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I think there comes a time where pain and pleasure is so intermingled that they cannot be separated.  That is not to be endured, but enjoyed.

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RE: Why do we endure the pain? - 4/28/2006 3:26:35 AM   
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... because we love them with such an intensity, that no matter what cost or pain, we want to please them, and do for them what ever they desire, for as long as they allow it, and as long as  we can?

(... the 'coming to the 'as long as we can' part is another post entirely.)

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RE: Why do we endure the pain? - 4/28/2006 6:57:04 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

And if you aren't a masochist- then it's always pain.


I am SO not a masochist.  I am whatever the extreme opposite of masochist is. LOL.  I have a very low pain thresshold.  Actually, I don't know if it is related, but all of my sensories are...well....sensitive.  Loud noises cause me to jump through the roof.  Strong smells make me nausious.  Strong flavors are...hard to swallow (har har)...and bright lights are painful to my eyes. 

So pain...wow.  To answer the question, I endure because he wants me to.  There have been moments in subspace, however, when i become animalistic, and snarl for more, but that is the exception, not the rule.

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RE: Why do we endure the pain? - 4/28/2006 6:59:22 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bandit25

I think there comes a time where pain and pleasure is so intermingled that they cannot be separated.  That is not to be endured, but enjoyed.


i wish this were true for me, to me it is always pain, it doesn't mix.

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RE: Why do we endure the pain? - 4/29/2006 6:10:35 AM   
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i relax myself and take the pain away from me...and poof im in la la land

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