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Obama's next trip. - 11/3/2010 9:51:32 AM   
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Obama will be taking a 10 day trip to Mumbai, India and will be taking 300 people with him. Cost to taxpayers for this junket is expected to be a whopping 2 billion dollars, or 200 million a day for 10 days. What next ??
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RE: Obama's next trip. - 11/3/2010 9:53:31 AM   
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I suppose the recarpeting and painting of offices in the house and senate?

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RE: Obama's next trip. - 11/3/2010 9:54:11 AM   
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Expanding our export markets, growing Real GDP and creating jobs.

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RE: Obama's next trip. - 11/3/2010 9:59:51 AM   
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My original post has a typo in it. He will be taking along 3000 people on this junket, not 300.

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RE: Obama's next trip. - 11/3/2010 10:02:36 AM   
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ya Im calling bollocks on the amount
sorry
thats out of the realm of sheer bleeding fantasy


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RE: Obama's next trip. - 11/3/2010 10:02:53 AM   
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India has well over 1 billion people, around 15% of the world's population. Only China is larger. It should be one of our largest markets.

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RE: Obama's next trip. - 11/3/2010 10:05:13 AM   
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I thought globalization was VERY GOOD? Are we now saying its not so?

Gee, I guess those kids who protested at the G8 summits all those years weren't wrong?


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RE: Obama's next trip. - 11/3/2010 10:06:06 AM   
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It's a long overdue effort.

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RE: Obama's next trip. - 11/3/2010 10:11:48 AM   
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From Reuters:

Economic issues at heart of Obama Asia trip

Wed Nov 3, 2010 12:29pm EDT

(Reuters) - President Barack Obama's upcoming trip to Asia will be focused on efforts to open up new markets for American goods and strengthen the U.S. economy, administration officials said.

Here are some economic items that will be on Obama's agenda on the trip to India, Indonesia, South Korea and Japan, which includes a G20 summit in Seoul and an Asia-Pacific leaders summit in Yokohama.

The president leaves for India on Friday and returns to Washington on November 14. The trip begins three days after the midterm congressional elections in which voters punished his fellow Democrats for the sputtering U.S. economy and high unemployment.

GLOBAL IMBALANCES

Obama and his team will push hard during his trip and especially at the G20 to limit "excessive imbalances" in the global economy by encouraging countries such as Germany and China to boost domestic demand and reduce their reliance on exports to fuel economic growth.

U.S. officials warn that American consumers cannot remain the engine of growth for the world economy and must save more. Obama is seeking to double U.S. exports within five years.

"Many Asian economies in particular have strong potential to fuel domestic demand either through domestic consumption in some cases, through major infrastructure investments in other cases, and through both, in other countries," Treasury Under Secretary for International Affairs Lael Brainard told reporters at the White House.

"This provides important opportunities for America's dynamic exporters, and it also boosts growth more broadly."

CURRENCY

The U.S. wish for China to let its yuan currency rise is well known. Obama will have a chance to discuss the issue further when he meets with Chinese President Hu Jintao on the G20 sidelines in Seoul.

Brainard said the United States wants more progress from emerging market economies on the currency issue and urged them to cooperate so others would feel encouraged to move.

U.S. officials say China holds the value of the yuan artificially low against the dollar to support exports, adding to a massive trade surplus Washington would like to ease by getting Beijing to let the yuan rise.

UNLOCKING INDIAN COMMERCIAL POTENTIAL

Despite its size, India is only the United States' 14th biggest trading partner, and the White House would like Obama's three-day visit to Mumbai and New Delhi to be a step toward unlocking its commercial potential, which could help ballast the rise of China.

The White House expects several commercial deals between U.S. and Indian companies to be finalized during the visit, and says it is making progress in ironing out existing obstacles to greater trade between the two nations.

Obama will also speak at a summit of U.S. and Indian business leaders in Mumbai.

Obama is not visiting India's technology hubs Hyderabad and Bangalore, favorite targets of U.S. politicians who say offshoring jobs is partly to blame for high U.S. unemployment.

Indian officials have protested a recent hike in U.S. visa fees that is expected to hit India's IT industry, and proposed tax changes -- supported by Obama -- that would end breaks for U.S. firms that create jobs and profits overseas.

SOUTH KOREA FREE TRADE AGREEMENT

Washington and Seoul signed a free trade agreement in 2007, but the deal has languished in the face of opposition in the U.S. Congress. Negotiators are putting "maximum effort" toward resolving objections to the agreement before Obama arrives in Seoul on November 10.

One major sticking point is South Korea's refusal to allow imports of all cuts of U.S. beef, irrespective of cattle age, lifting a restriction imposed after the discovery of mad cow disease in the U.S. cattle herd in 2003.

The United States also wants South Korea to do more to open its market to U.S. automobiles. Many U.S. lawmakers complain the 2007 agreement does too little to change South Korean regulatory and tax policies that have long kept U.S. automobiles out of the Korean market.

Prospects for the pact could improve now that Republicans have won control of the House of Representatives, because some of the stiffest opposition to the FTA came from Obama's fellow Democrats.

U.S. TRADE WITH ASIA-PACIFIC

On Obama's first trip to Asia in 2009, he announced the United States would join with seven other countries -- Chile, Peru, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, Brunei and Vietnam -- to negotiate a regional free trade agreement to be called the TransPacific Partnership.

Since then, Malaysia has joined the talks.

Other countries such as Japan and Canada have expressed interest in joining the negotiations, but current members worry adding too many countries could complicate the goal of reaching a high-quality "21st Century" pact to liberalize agriculture, manufacturing and services trade in the region.

At the conclusion of the annual Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation forum summit in Japan on November 13, the United States takes over leadership of 21-nation grouping for the next year.

(Reporting by Patricia Zengerle, Jeff Mason and Doug Palmer in Washington; Editing by Jerry Norton)

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RE: Obama's next trip. - 11/3/2010 10:13:24 AM   
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They have booked the entire 570 rooms at the TajMahal to accomadate the 3000 guests that will be traveling with our leader. 40 aircraft will be flying there from the U.S. Maybe he didn't get the message from the voters last night ?

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RE: Obama's next trip. - 11/3/2010 10:15:33 AM   
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Who are the guests?  You got a list?  State, trade representatives, nutsuckers or what?

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RE: Obama's next trip. - 11/3/2010 10:18:26 AM   
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They have booked the entire 570 rooms at the TajMahal to accomadate the 3000 guests that will be traveling with our leader. 40 aircraft will be flying there from the U.S. Maybe he didn't get the message from the voters last night ?

Welcome to the age of terrorism.

"The visit - part of a 10-trip to Asia - will take place amid unprecedented levels of security in the city of Mumbai, where terrorists killed at least 173 people two years ago.

Extreme measures to ensure the safety of President Obama will include the complete booking of the 570-room Taj Mahal Hotel for his security entourage.

The building saw some of the fiercest fighting between Islamic militant gunmen and security forces during the November 2008 atrocity.

Other precautions include the use of helicopters, US and Indian Navy ships to patrol the Mumbai waterfront and the use of sophisticated surveillance equipment."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1325990/Obamas-200m-day-India-visit-picked-US-taxpayers.html#ixzz14EzSK2M5


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RE: Obama's next trip. - 11/3/2010 10:19:21 AM   
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I called the White House this morning, but they wouldn't give me the complete list of the 3000 people going on this junket.

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RE: Obama's next trip. - 11/3/2010 10:20:45 AM   
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I would imagine it was due to your pestering him about the widely publicized birth certificate, and they just said, fuck this guy..............

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RE: Obama's next trip. - 11/3/2010 11:08:42 AM   
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okies, been looking, you might wanna watch
http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2010/11/02/tuesday-talks-president-s-foreign-trip
The trip is ten days, and in that time he will be visiting, Indonesia(less than 24 hours) South Korea, and Japan for APEC meetings only three to four days in mumbai.
Sooooo the numbers are questionable
Indias economic times are stating 200 million for the mumbai trip, as a whole. Also they are also reporting that apart from airforce one , TWO jumbo jets will be landing at mumbai... they are gonna need more than two jumbo jets to get 3000 people there.
Daily mail is using the "high up indian person" so isnt really any more enlightened.




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RE: Obama's next trip. - 11/3/2010 11:55:59 AM   
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Guess it failed servants notice that pahunk already had a thread about this topic...

Must have also failed servants notice that the President doesnt have final say in where he stays when abroad. Security takes precedence, they decide where the President stays.

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RE: Obama's next trip. - 11/3/2010 12:03:05 PM   
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guess so.
colour me surprised
NOT


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RE: Obama's next trip. - 11/4/2010 4:48:30 PM   
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Yup, and thoroughly debunked on another thread.

What surprised me was that anyone would believe those numbers.  Just look at the magnitude of them - and since when has anyone booked the Taj Mahal?

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RE: Obama's next trip. - 11/4/2010 4:59:25 PM   
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Better yet just look at the three that started the threads....hunky,servant and truckin.

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RE: Obama's next trip. - 11/4/2010 5:05:30 PM   
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I expect this from hunky, honestly. The other two, i would have expected a bit more research into this incredibly stupid charge... even if Beck is repeating it still.

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