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FirmhandKY -> Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 12:13:32 PM)

I missed it, but read the Politico article.

Barack Obama vows to work with GOP after 'shellacking'

“It feels bad,” he said with a gallows-humor grin.

“A couple of great communicators – Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton – were standing at this podium two years into their presidency getting very similar questions because the economy wasn’t working,” said Obama, who became increasingly introspective as the press conference wore on.

“I think every president needs to go through this,” he said, quickly adding: “I’m not recommending every president take a shellacking” like this one, the worst mid-term losses by a party in seven decades.

Obama said he’s doing “a whole lot of reflecting” about his decision-making since taking office nearly two years ago.

He cast Tuesday’s results as confirmation that “people are frustrated, deeply frustrated about the pace of our recovery” – and predicted a difficult partisan fight over spending bills and the expiration of the Bush tax cuts.

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Acknowledging the disappointment of his reform-minded 2008 supporters, Obama blamed part of the Democratic debacle on his inability to challenge business-as-usual in Washington, especially the use of earmarks and the backroom deals cut to pass health care reform.

“We were in such a hurry to get things done, we didn’t change how things were done,” conceded Obama.


The president didn’t push back when a reporter suggested the results represented a rejection of his presidency or his agenda.

“There is no doubt that people’s number one concern is the economy,” “They understand that I’m the President of the United States and it’s my responsibility… So I’ve got to take direct responsibility that we have not made enough progress that we needed to make.”


Tuesday was a “a long night for a lot of us – and needless to say it was for me,” he added. “Some election nights are more fun than others. Some are exhilarating and some are humbling.”

Democrats lost between 64 and 67 seats in the House – more than making up for the huge gains they made during the 2006 and 2008 cycles. The president’s party lost control of nine state houses – but managed to keep their majority in the Senate despite the loss of between six and eight seats.

But Obama, who is scheduled to leave for an extended trip to Asia on Friday, offered little regret over the massive government programs his administration pushed through when they held commanding majorities in both houses.

At the same time, he offered an olive branch of sorts to House Minority Leader and likely House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on spending, saying he was eager to reach a compromise with them on curbing the runaway federal deficit.

Based on this article, I'd say that there is the possibility that he'll do a Clinton, although I think he misses a couple of key points.

One is that it wasn't simply "how" the Dems did "business as usual", but what "the business" that they did was. In other words, he seems to be thinking it was the process, and not the results that caused the upset.

Firm





EternalHoH -> RE: Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 12:30:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Based on this article, I'd say that there is the possibility that he'll do a Clinton




Remember, Obama doesn't have the Randite in charge of the money supply that Clinton had. Since Obama and Bernanke are still dealing with the aftermath of that, he/they pretty much cannot fulfill the role as Bubble Economy Rainmaker on Main St. ......  Much to the disappointment of many expecting him to 'do a Clinton'.





chiaThePet -> RE: Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 12:31:23 PM)


Anything about spinning platinum rims on Air Force One in there somewhere?

No?

Next.

chia* (the pet)




KenDckey -> RE: Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 1:02:58 PM)

Sounds like Obama is trying to tell the Reps that what has happened will stay in place as he put in there and that if they follow his lead they will be doing well.    I dont know   just one man's opinion




FirmhandKY -> RE: Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 1:06:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: EternalHoH

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Based on this article, I'd say that there is the possibility that he'll do a Clinton




Remember, Obama doesn't have the Randite in charge of the money supply that Clinton had. Since Obama and Bernanke are still dealing with the aftermath of that, he/they pretty much cannot fulfill the role as Bubble Economy Rainmaker on Main St. ......  Much to the disappointment of many expecting him to 'do a Clinton'.

I was talking about "triangulation", not economic policies per se.

Firm




truckinslave -> RE: Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 2:26:41 PM)

I missed it too (day sleeper) but the consensus I have picked up is that he pretty clearly blamed the economy, not the myriad policies, great and small, passed and failed, that have hurt the popularity of both himself and his party.

I give as much weight to any claim of moderation as I do to previous claims of attempts at bipartisanship. He'll have to show me. Starting with the Buxh tax cuts.




slvemike4u -> RE: Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 2:30:02 PM)

Got a feeling you will be sorely dissapointed if you expect him to roll over for the top 2% of the country.I thought the central idea of this election was that deficits are bbbbbbad....and yet you want the Bush tax cuts to continue?




DomKen -> RE: Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 2:40:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

I missed it too (day sleeper) but the consensus I have picked up is that he pretty clearly blamed the economy, not the myriad policies, great and small, passed and failed, that have hurt the popularity of both himself and his party.

I give as much weight to any claim of moderation as I do to previous claims of attempts at bipartisanship. He'll have to show me. Starting with the Buxh tax cuts.

That's funny. He has long been the moderate on the Bush tax cuts. He neither wants them all to expire or for them all to continue. Of course the neo con definition of moderate is a Democrat who does exactly what neo cons want.




FirmhandKY -> RE: Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 2:50:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Of course the neo con definition of moderate is a Democrat who does exactly what neo cons want.

Of course, the definition of a "reasonable Republican" to a Democrat is one that votes the majority of the time with the Democrats.

We call them RINO's, though.

Firm




KenDckey -> RE: Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 2:52:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Of course the neo con definition of moderate is a Democrat who does exactly what neo cons want.

Of course, the definition of a "reasonable Republican" to a Democrat is one that votes the majority of the time with the Democrats.

We call them RINO's, though.

Firm


True




DomKen -> RE: Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 2:54:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Of course the neo con definition of moderate is a Democrat who does exactly what neo cons want.

Of course, the definition of a "reasonable Republican" to a Democrat is one that votes the majority of the time with the Democrats.

We call them RINO's, though.

Firm

Speaking as a Democrat we call a Republican reasonable when they negotiate in good faith and vote for bills that they got most of what they wanted. Unlike the entire present batch.




mrbob726 -> RE: Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 2:57:36 PM)

of course, in Chicago, they voted in the original pay for play politician of them all - Berrios - I'm glad I don't live in cook county - 




KenDckey -> RE: Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 3:01:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Of course the neo con definition of moderate is a Democrat who does exactly what neo cons want.

Of course, the definition of a "reasonable Republican" to a Democrat is one that votes the majority of the time with the Democrats.

We call them RINO's, though.

Firm

Speaking as a Democrat we call a Republican reasonable when they negotiate in good faith and vote for bills that they got most of what they wanted. Unlike the entire present batch.


Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the Democrats limit the number of amendments that could be added and the debate?  




KenDckey -> RE: Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 3:02:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mrbob726

of course, in Chicago, they voted in the original pay for play politician of them all - Berrios - I'm glad I don't live in cook county - 


I thought that was a rule there?




truckinslave -> RE: Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 3:16:39 PM)

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Of course, the definition of a "reasonable Republican" to a Democrat is one that votes the majority of the time with the Democrats.


I gotta go to the dictionary, Firm.
I thought that was the definition of bipartisanship.




KenDckey -> RE: Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 3:26:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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Of course, the definition of a "reasonable Republican" to a Democrat is one that votes the majority of the time with the Democrats.


I gotta go to the dictionary, Firm.
I thought that was the definition of bipartisanship.


ROFLMAO   ROFLMAO   ROFLMAO   




Real0ne -> RE: Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 3:36:11 PM)



personally I think they should abolish the 2 party dictatorship altogether and go totally bipartisan all the way!  Then we wouldnt have to waste time voting n all that crap.




lickenforyou -> RE: Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 4:01:22 PM)

Of course it was the economy! If the bailouts had worked as quickly as Obama was hoping, the Dems would have stayed in power. He was also hoping for a little luck. I think that he will recieve a lot of credit in the long run for keeping the the apparatus in place to support the recovery.




DomKen -> RE: Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 4:17:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Of course the neo con definition of moderate is a Democrat who does exactly what neo cons want.

Of course, the definition of a "reasonable Republican" to a Democrat is one that votes the majority of the time with the Democrats.

We call them RINO's, though.

Firm

Speaking as a Democrat we call a Republican reasonable when they negotiate in good faith and vote for bills that they got most of what they wanted. Unlike the entire present batch.


Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the Democrats limit the number of amendments that could be added and the debate?  


The number of amendments and length of debate are always limited otherwise nothing would ever get voted on.




pogo4pres -> RE: Obama's After Election News Conference (11/3/2010 5:10:13 PM)

FR

Reasonable republican = one that grasps the concept of "compromise" and does not view it as "date rape" as one right wing ass-wipe once put it.  If you are unwilling to compromise you are a "radical" or "extremist" in my opinion.  I am always willing to move toward compromise in my political beliefs, with one single exception, CUT THE FUCKING BLOATED, FETID AND FESTERING DEFENSE BUDGET FIRST.  

Why are we still preparing for a conflict with the Soviet Union, and Soviet bloc nations circa 1978??? You conservatives answer that first then get back to us on cutting "social" programs.


Defensively,
Some Knucklehead in NJ




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