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wantu2bemine -> Can I learn to be a Master (11/9/2010 6:49:12 AM)

Hi, i have to be honest and up front i am new to this lifestyle and im really looking for some help, Im a 40 yr old man and was wondering if you can learn to be a master, i was introduced to this by a former girlfriend who was a sub and now im really wanting to find a sub, but i could use some guidance and maybe a little help, i have been researching this online and havent really come up with much, can someone help me out.

thanks and have a great day




mnottertail -> RE: Can I learn to be a Master (11/9/2010 7:04:37 AM)

There is a wealth of information on this site, and it is ubitquious on the wide web.

Find munches and events in your area, man up and get thee to them.

Thus endeth the lesson.




SpaceSpank -> RE: Can I learn to be a Master (11/9/2010 7:06:16 AM)

Do you feel you ARE a Master? If not, then you might be able to learn to try and fake it... but unless you really felt you are a Master (or a Dom), then you will probably not succeed for long, or at all, especially with an experienced slave or sub.

If you feel you are a Master or a Dom, then you can certainly learn more about being a good one. There's plenty of wisdom to be found in books, online, or from a good mentor.




LanceHughes -> RE: Can I learn to be a Master (11/9/2010 7:36:23 AM)

Your profile (divided into sentences) reads:
quote:


I am looking for a woman to fufill my needs, and it just doesnt mean sex, i want you to be mine, i want you as a whole, and not just your hole, i want you to want me, you will want me and want to please me, in turn i will give you what you are looking for.

I will be honest with you and tell you that im kinda new to this and im willing to learn from others in order to fufill what im looking for.

If there is anyone out there willing to learn with me, im open to any suggestions

thanks


HMMmmmm......

Your profile lists "Curious about serving as a maid/butler." Really?  Not very masterful.

Weak in sentence structure. Seriously weak.... I gave up reading that first run-on about half-way through.  It is almost desperate in tone.  Actually, each time I read  it, it sounds more desperate than the last.  Everyone here will tell you, "Desperate doesn't cut it."

You use "im" instead of "I'm."  Lower case first person singular is often used by subs/slaves as an indication of their self-image.  I correct them to use proper grammar. Your mileage may vary.  (That is, you may require that from a sub, but please don't use it for yourself.)  If your usage is a habit from text-speak, I'll just say, "Text-speak is frowned upon on this web-site."

Gotta go, but I'll just point out that nowhere do you say WHAT you are "looking for."

WAAAaaay too vague.

YOU must figure out what you are looking for FIRST.  If you don't know, you can't find it, now, can you?

Re-think, re-write, re-post and let us know that is done and then solicit comments.

Regards, and best of luck,
Lance Hughes




LanceHughes -> RE: Can I learn to be a Master (11/9/2010 8:04:42 AM)

Read, really READ this string and do NOT make the same mistake the OP (Original Poster makes!)

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3463400/mpage_1/tm.htm




LanceHughes -> RE: Can I learn to be a Master (11/9/2010 8:12:48 AM)

Now, I'm late for work, but don't worry, I'm dominate enough to make it "okay." ..... LOL!

Read, REALLY read this..... . TONS of good advice!

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3457374/tm.htm




Focus50 -> RE: Can I learn to be a Master (11/9/2010 11:16:26 AM)

Crikey Lance, I'm usually the one taking flak from the CM critics for telling it how I see it...!

Supoib...

Focus.




ResidentSadist -> RE: Can I learn to be a Master (11/9/2010 12:48:13 PM)

The answer is yes, you can learn.
The key words here are "learn" & "read".
From Lance's links to the many books found in my sig link, read.




DMFParadox -> RE: Can I learn to be a Master (11/9/2010 3:28:00 PM)

What those guys said. Except I'd pass on the local 'munches' and go to larger events at first. The munches can sometimes be very... disappointing. Plus at the larger events, you can get lost in the anonymity of the crowd, and when you're scoping things out that can be very reassuring.




DesFIP -> RE: Can I learn to be a Master (11/9/2010 4:26:58 PM)

You cannot learn the desire to be in charge, to have all the responsibility. That comes from within.
You can learn to be a competent service top much easier. And if you do indeed strive to be in charge in your relationships, you can learn to do so in a healthy and positive manner.

Suggested reading:
The Loving Dominant
Screw the Roses
Erotic Bondage
S & M 101

After that, go to local munches and make friends. See how the paired dominants treat their subs. Bounce questions off of them.
Go to local play parties and watch the experts play. If something interests you, ask the top to teach you or just give you some pointers. If they offer workshops, take them.




SoulcatcherXXX -> RE: Can I learn to be a Master (11/11/2010 7:33:40 AM)

Yes you can learn to be one--everyone who is one has learned at some point. It isn't quick or easy, so don't expect it to be--it takes years, and you'll make more than plenty of mistakes along the way as you learn and practice. Never try to fake being a Master--that only works for about two seconds, then you look like a fool forever after that...experienced slaves can tell, and very quickly...so just don't try that. Be honest about yourself, it works much better! As others said, study and practice and talk to people in the lifestyle as much as you can. Avoid the mistake of thinking you know things you really don't know, also avoid the mistake of assuming that because a girl is a sub/slave you can give her orders and she should obey them, even if you just met her...that isn't true, as you'll find out very quickly if you try to order around the wrong person.
The most important thing in D/s is finding the right match. Don't be in a rush for that, it takes however long it takes and a bad match is no fun at all and a waste of time. Remember that every sub/slave is an individual human being and must be treated that way--things that work for one won't work at all for another, each person is unique and has different needs, triggers, limits and potentials. Be trustworthy always--that is very important! If you give your word, make sure to keep it...if someone decides to put their trust in you, be sure you never make them sorry they did, because without trust you've got nothing at all.
Looking at D/s from the outside in, it is hard for people to see and understand the full extent of what is really going on. They may see whips, shackles, cages, girls being told how to dress and what to do...it may look like abuse to vanillas, or inhumane treatment, or just plain stupidity...but they have no way of knowing why those things are happening and can't guess. D/s is as much a personal exploration as anything, and as a Master it is both your job and your responsibility to keep your slave safe at all times, to teach her and train her, to explore and expand her limits and to be the rock that she can trust and believe in. Those are not easy things to do and be, but they are required. When you make decisions as a Master, try to make sure they are good ones because you have another person's life in your hands and they are depending on you to make good choices. There is a ton of psychology involved, too, and it's important to always keep that in mind. Many slaves come from an abused childhood, many are fragile and needy, all will at some point test you. These are not necessarily bad things, but they are reality and you should always be aware of them. And when a slave tests you, she will watch carefully for your response...the test is a test of your personal strength, and if you show weakness when you should show strength and discipline, the slave will probably be gone within a matter of days in my experience. They don't "want" a strong Master--they need one, and will keep looking until they find one.
That's about all the tips I can think of this early in the morning, except to say that there is no right or wrong way to do D/s...everyone does it in their own way, and if it works for you and your slave then you're doing it right. Hope you can get some use out of some of this, and good luck!





SoulcatcherXXX -> RE: Can I learn to be a Master (11/11/2010 7:39:09 AM)

I should add one more thing, about learning to be a Master or a slave. You can learn--IF you have the potential within you...but if you don't, it's a waste of time and you won't succeed. If you are not by nature a dominant and confident person, you'll never be a Master and if a girl doesn't have an inner need to serve, please, etc she is not slave material and will never be any good at it. This is not for the many, it is for the few...and for those few, it is the only true way we know to be ourselves, and eventually becomes even more than a lifestyle...it becomes an addiction...once you have owned a truly good slave, no other type of woman will ever seem good enough to you again, and it will be slaves and only slaves for you from then on. That's a handy thing to know, before you get too deep into it...there's no return, and it can't be the way it was before because those women will no longer interest you.




mons -> RE: Can I learn to be a Master (11/11/2010 11:13:12 PM)

Hello

I want to put my thoughts into the subject of "if you can learn to be "dominant" !  I knew as a child i enjoy watching a man cry!  I did not know what i was feeling but i knew this was something that was in me!  I do think you must get a thrill, a sense of control that only you have which is program into you being!  Yes when you have these items within you yes you can learn to be a master!  But it takes pateince, kindness but a strong will to control that person whom you pick!   Soulcatcher this is true I found i can not be with someone who is not submissive. it is a thrill that runs through me as i breathe, I am lucky to have had good slaves!   The thrill of the catch is probably is the most fun, that look they give you when you claim them, the reverence they show  as they see your what they have search for many years!   Yes it is something that is worth knowing, read and learn more on this subject!   There are many types of slaves you must choose the one best for you , just do not pick someone just because they say "I am a slave!   

good luck
mons




poise -> RE: Can I learn to be a Master (11/13/2010 8:19:54 AM)

Great advice for inexperienced dominants




Musicmystery -> RE: Can I learn to be a Master (11/13/2010 9:32:05 AM)

Before you can learn, you must pass the entrance exam.




BurntKitty -> RE: Can I learn to be a Master (11/13/2010 9:36:39 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Before you can learn, you must pass the entrance exam.


That and carry a 3.9 GPA.




Icarys -> RE: Can I learn to be a Master (11/13/2010 9:41:19 AM)

When you can take the pebble from my hand it will be time for you to lead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEtKj6keoYU




Malkinius -> RE: Can I learn to be a Master (11/13/2010 1:12:17 PM)

Greetings.....

The simple answer is that to be a Dom or a Master is to learn a body of knowledge and a set of skills. Just about anyone can do that, even the most submissive of person. In fact, those people often know those things better than many people who claim to be dominant. There are two very important questions. Can you do the work and take the time to learn them and can you apply them if you learn them? If you can and do both then yes, you are a Dom, a Master, a whatever imaginative title you want to call yourself. Prove it to others and getting a sub or a slave is just a matter of time. They will seek you out. Try to fake it and you may get a few low quality ones but they will soon move on.

The choice is up to you. You won't be led by the nose or the balls by someone else to get there. If you were, you would be on the wrong path.

Be well.....

Malkinius




Despot -> RE: Can I learn to be a Master (11/20/2010 6:58:52 AM)

I have been a Dom for over 20 years and have a select group of subs that submit to me. Generally, honesty works best for me. Different subs will be attracted to different types of Doms with different skill sets and demeanors. Do what you enjoy, and the subs that like those traits will come to you, as that is what they are looking for as well. That is not to say you cannot add to your skill set as time goes on. I certainly have learned and expanded over the years.




DarkSteven -> RE: Can I learn to be a Master (11/20/2010 7:04:59 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Before you can learn, you must pass the entrance exam.



Screw that.  I'll order a sub to take it for me.




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