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OrionTheWolf -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/13/2010 6:18:57 AM)

~FR~

I have not read all the replies, but will comment on my experience. I have rarely posted in this section, but I have in the past, when I had something relevant to add to the discussion. Most of what I have seen posted here is specific to Female Dominants, most of the time, but could be made more non-gender.

I agree that if the two boards were combined into "Ask a Dominant/Owner" you would like see a reduction in the trolling and wank questions/comments.

If there were a need to restructure, then a Femdom section could be created. Anyway, take care all and have a great weekend.




Icarys -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/13/2010 6:33:57 AM)

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We'll have to agree to disagree on the thought that you always win those arguments. I've yet to find any of those threads that it has really made a difference whether a male or female Dominant answered a particular question.

There we go again.

I agree so much so that I rarely even look at where I'm at when posting. I find that people are people no matter the sex.




Lockit -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/13/2010 10:25:31 AM)

When I started this thread, I didn’t want to direct the thread, but actually hear what people had to say on the matter and get some discussion going about the topic. I pulled back and didn’t respond when I thought I would or could because I just wanted to see where everything went without injecting anything that might sway the direction the thread went. I have a problem with threads that are started to ask a question and then the OP jumps in to try and change everyone’s perception or direction. I also don’t want to try and evaluate each and every thing that was said because it isn’t my board and even if it were, I wouldn’t want to control it. I thought that we might hear some things that might be challenging to hear, might see some things that we might each do or take part in or just see where people were at and how they felt. I think that has worked out rather well with the different thoughts and things shared. Thank you!

This has been very interesting and thought provoking and even if people haven’t said anything, maybe they will feel free to do so because so many of you did share things that you thought you might catch hell for! lol Rather than say how I take each thing said, I think I would rather digest it and just move forward with my take on it. I do also thank those I have chatted with by phone, etc and their views, although I did get us off track and talked too much because of a headache. lol 




CallaFirestormBW -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/13/2010 10:57:37 AM)

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For me checking the boards is more of an occasional peek than following any particular discussion. Honestly, life is just too darn busy these days. There are certain posters whom I value what they have to say, and I would read no matter what the title, just because they began the post.


This is me, spot-on. I find that I have some time to invest in CC, but not nearly as much as I used to. Now that life is full, and my writing career is taking off, I don't have as much luxury to post as I used to -- but I have to say that there are some folks here whose posts generally spark my interest in commenting.

I'll agree with the sentiment that I'm more comfortable without gender lines in my version of M/s -- but then again, I'm not big on gender lines period. That being said, I do think that men and women have different perspectives on how things flow together, that both perspectives are valuable for a well-rounded understanding, and that, despite certain biases and fictional expectations, dominance and submission are genderless, but how we interact as people doesn't seem to be.

In general, I tend to ignore the negative posting and Bitch*&*MoanFests, unless I have some positive, productive perspective to share. I figure that, regardless of where I am, people tend to look for the negative. I think that the human race, in general, does so in order to gain commiseration in their struggles... but it also seems to me that, for the most part, the B&M postings and negativity don't generate that kind of communal rallying that the poster is seeking -- it just annoys people and leaves a haze of "bad reputation" around those who instigate such postings.

I know that people get frustrated. I get frustrated, too -- but a long time ago, one of my Mentors (tired, I'm sure, of listening to me whine about one thing or another) finally sat me down and said "Ok, I know you're feeling crappy -- but unless you can find some productive thing to -do- about it, everyone else is so wrapped up in their own pity-pot that they aren't going to be very keen on swimming in yours." I've never forgotten that, and I try to incorporate it in my interactions with other people.

I think, too, that some of us who have been around a while remember the cycle of postings... the repetition of themes, etc. That's common everywhere -- in every community I've been in, at some point most everything that can be said for newcomers is covered... and people who are just coming on board have questions and start looking for perspective -- and yes, its true that there are hundreds of posts under the search feature covering X... but sometimes, it's the -interaction- that people want, as much as the advice. They want to know that they're not alone NOW... reading old posts on the boards won't do that for most people... it is missing that interaction with people in -this- space and time that makes them feel less lost and alone. It's for this reason that I try not to get jaded when I see the 10 millionth post about starting a new poly family, or how to find a servant/Mistress, or how to manage jealousy.

I know that if there is a subject about which I'm curious -or- have some experience that might be of some value to someone, I'll usually take the time to participate. However, I know that I can't commit to any kind of regular activity, since I can't even manage to update my author's blog (which drives my publisher darned near to distraction!).

One thing that occurs to me is that the community itself is changing. I don't think that it's so much about the Mistress board as it is just a general discontent. Since anyone can post anywhere, I wonder if it is so relevant that we have boards specially dedicated to female dominants, male dominants, submissives, switches, or whatever -- especially because I think that some of those gender-based or alignment-based boards tend to intimidate posters who may have valuable information, but who aren't sure where they fit in the scheme of things -- For example, I've seen a LOT of posts from transgenders who have awesome ideas, but who are disrespected when they try to post from their chosen gender vs. their birth gender... I wonder if it would be more effective to have boards broken down into categories like, say, Poly (which we have), Protocol or Not, Ms, Ds, Fetish and Play Activities, Bondage and SM, and... I don't know... maybe "scary stuff" (for bloodsports, etc.)... so that people can post on subjects that -everyone- can participate on, and can float according to topics by a more... flexible range of subjects. (I hope this makes some sense... my brain is fried from a binge of novel-writing.)

Anyway -- I'll be here as long as the place is around, and I'll contribute where I can.

Calla




hausboy -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/13/2010 12:14:06 PM)

Lockit
Thank you for starting this thread--I have not been on CollarMe very long, but long enough to watch posts disintegrate over semantics, wordsmithing and other tangents, while the initial question never really gets addressed. I really think this thread you've started is actually one of the most interesting and relevant posts I've seen on CollarMe in the short time I've been here, so thank you for that!  I rarely even look at the Ask a Master page anymore, since I haven't found many threads interesting, but I think combining them would be a great idea.

I really like Calla's idea of topic pages instead of the "Ask a...." since we all post everywhere anyhow.  And I think the "extreme" page might be a good place where folks can post about the more misunderstood fetishes--I really do feel for those who are brave enough to post that they are into fetishes that are not typical--because they will ultimately have to read countless mean-spirited posts telling them they are sick, gross, disgusting or "I don't get it" responses, which doesn't help anybody.

Thank goodness for a CM person directing me to the Random Stupidity page--that has been a saving grace as I don't have to worry about semantics, offending someone, or trolls.  It's given me a chance to get to know folks better.




Iholdthestrings -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/14/2010 8:01:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

I agree that if the two boards were combined into "Ask a Dominant/Owner" you would like see a reduction in the trolling and wank questions/comments.

If there were a need to restructure, then a Femdom section could be created. Anyway, take care all and have a great weekend.


This...

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ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW

I wonder if it would be more effective to have boards broken down into categories like, say, Poly (which we have), Protocol or Not, Ms, Ds, Fetish and Play Activities, Bondage and SM, and... I don't know... maybe "scary stuff" (for bloodsports, etc.)... so that people can post on subjects that -everyone- can participate on, and can float according to topics by a more... flexible range of subjects.


...and this.




Wheldrake -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/14/2010 1:21:37 PM)

A few thoughts, addressed to nobody in particular.

I've never posted too much on this board, and lately I've hardly been posting at all. This is partly because of time constraints, and partly because I feel like I don't have too much to say on the topics that come up (or at least not much that hasn't been said dozens of times before), but also because the negativity quotient can get a little high around here.

On the other hand... out of curiosity I went back and looked over a reasonably large sample of recent(ish) threads from Ask a Mistress. I tried to check all the ones that were started in October, and I don't think I missed too many. There were well over twenty, and most of them were fairly brief and constructive. People showed up with a question or comment and got a few sensible replies (and sometimes a few silly or snarky ones), and then the community moved on to something else. Maybe a half-dozen threads turned into train wrecks, but unfortunately they included the two longest ones that started in the month of October. So I think the posters on this board are actually pleasant and good-humoured most of the time, on the whole, but it doesn't always look that way because the argumentative threads sometimes drag on and on. I got the impression that the problem wasn't so much the hunger for "wank fodder" (and incidentally, anyone who ever feels inspired to wank by one of my posts is welcome to do so) as the vast reservoirs of male bitterness out there over how difficult it (supposedly?) is to find a dominant woman who doesn't expect to be paid for her time, and of course female exasperation with how some of the men handle their frustrations.

I think the bottom line, though, is that reasonable questions and comments on this forum usually get reasonable answers, even when they come from strangers (either new users, or ones like me that rarely post). The topics do seem to get a bit repetitive, which is one factor that discourages me from posting more often, but the obvious solution is to find a wider range of things to talk about. After all, female domination is a many-splendoured thing. However, it's easier to think that the range of topics should be broader than it is to come up with things I actually want to Ask a Mistress, especially since I have the kind of mind that gravitates towards dry, impersonal, slightly odd questions that I suspect many other people would just find annoying.




LadyPact -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/14/2010 2:26:11 PM)

Thinking on this some more, there was something that I wanted to add.  I think we also need to recognize that, when it does come to topics, we do have to understand that the board will be stagnant if there isn't any growth.  Some of the members who frequent here have been involved in this lifestyle for some time.  That means that we won't always be intrigued with elementary topics.  As we advance and grow in our knowledge, the types of things that we will want to discuss will want to be more complex.  The basics just aren't going to appeal to us to generate the kind of discussions we'd like to see here.  If all we are getting on the board is the 101 type material, the folks who are interested in more advanced discussions aren't going to participate as much as a topic that is old hat to them.




Takeylarose -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/14/2010 3:08:33 PM)

LadyPact- I'm curious as to what kind of topics you would suggest?




addicted683 -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/14/2010 4:19:04 PM)

hi everyone,

i'm new to this site and was hoping that i can get some help.

if i wanted to find a private playspace for rent or a bdsm house in hong kong (preferably near the salisbury hotel), where is a good place to start looking?

i tried to do a search on the internet, but only found independent dommes advertising, but not much more. thanks for any assistance you can provide.

have a great day.




LadyPact -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/14/2010 5:06:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Takeylarose

LadyPact- I'm curious as to what kind of topics you would suggest?

I would love to see people post more topics as they relate to their long term dynamics.  Especially involving the changes, growth, and challenges that they experience.

Any threads on advanced topping techniques.  (Sounds, fire, electrical, and so on.)

Challenges that we are facing within our established BDSM communities.

Innovative events, demos, etc that we've attended.  (You have no idea of how many discussions I've had on the other side regarding an event I did lately on the premise that it was so much different from the standard fare.)

Book discussions would be great, especially those by female authors.

As I said earlier, these aren't especially topics that are only focused on female Dominants.  Any of them would fit in General Discussion just as much as they would here.






sweetsub1957 -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/14/2010 8:18:43 PM)

~FR~
I would love to see a more active Mistress forum. Every time I check into CM I check all the forums & I think the only one more quiet than this one is the Switch board. Then, I post all over the place, no matter what board it's on. lol I guess I'm just a brat that way. If a topic ever does slip into my mind, I never post it here because i don't know if anyone here would want to hear it. lol

~sweetsub~




eihwaz -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/14/2010 9:12:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
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ORIGINAL: Arturas
So I ask the Mistresses, why have separate boards to begin with, why not just combine both and have "Ask a Master and a Mistress"?

I'm probably in the minority in thinking they would have been better off having a "Ask A Dominant" board, rather than having separated the genders.  It certainly wasn't deemed necessary in the submissive section and things there seem to run just fine. 

I have wondered why the gender separation between the Mistress and Master boards.

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
The off topic banter that honestly belongs in "polls and random stupidity" or in private email has gone off the charts on collarme and I've commented on it before.  If you have a group of people and want an open discussion and to feel welcoming to outsiders, you generally don't let 'inside jokes' and one liners  (that have absolutely nothing to do with the OP) become the dominant theme on threads.

I've been acutely disappointed when an otherwise great thread degenerates into this.  While banter seems more benign than flamefests, it's almost as pernicious to the overall vitality of a discussion forum.




SpiritedRadiance -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/14/2010 10:10:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Takeylarose

LadyPact- I'm curious as to what kind of topics you would suggest?


I know Its not directed at me, but I would love to see more information on different types of dynamics, Like people who have earned their leathers, strict protocol oriented dynamics over more kink dynamics, how punishment dynamics fit in your dynamic, if you even do them. How you keep the dynamic in balance.

Id also like to see more threads about the emotional and mental aspects of the life, how people deal with a submissive with special circumstances, like someone whos bi polar or has borderline personality disorder. How doms feel about asubmissive with special circumstances, how submissives feel about doms who have special circumstances.

Id love to hear more about the demos that go on around the world, and possibly have some demos or discussions about the demos. This past weekend I attended on on scene negotiation.

Id also like to do away with gender specific forums, Im sick of the bullshit of Only a little boy and only other little boys can give me the information I need, only a submissive can tell me what i need. Id rather dynamic specific boards, like Ms or Ds where its geared more toward BOTH PEOPLE (which Masters wouldnt have a dynamic with out their submissive/slave counterpart) involved in the DYNAMIC, not the stupidity of my dick is bigger then your dick so I know better then you.... (Now how do I REALLY feel..ya know) (( My dick is 18 inches long))






Lockit -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/15/2010 9:44:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: addicted683

hi everyone,

i'm new to this site and was hoping that i can get some help.

if i wanted to find a private playspace for rent or a bdsm house in hong kong (preferably near the salisbury hotel), where is a good place to start looking?

i tried to do a search on the internet, but only found independent dommes advertising, but not much more. thanks for any assistance you can provide.

have a great day.


Here's some help for you. When on the message board and reading a thread on any topic, you don't come in seeking play space, information or a partner/whatever in the middle of a thread on another topic. I am hoping you will come back and read this before a mod comes and takes us both away, because you do need to hear this and understand it if you want anyone to give you any info or anything else. Typically I would just wait for a mod to come and take your post away, but because I am trying to revise a few things personally and would like new people on the boards and taking part... I'm going to risk the mod email here and give you a little help.




PeonForHer -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/15/2010 9:56:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

I would much prefer a single-gender dom/top board.


Something that's just struck me about that idea:

When I first came to CM, it felt great that I could go to a specifically Mistress board, because femdoms were my 'target'.  Yet, having been here for a while now, it's become clear to me that arguments between submales and femdoms occur at least partly because males and females 'speak a different language'.  The male doms who've visited this board on a regular basis have helped 'translate' - they are, in a sense 'half way from the point of submale to the point of femdom'. 




TexasMaam -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/16/2010 2:58:13 AM)

I'm not sure it's possible to take back any control over how this board works. I used to browse this board for inspiration and ideas and at one point in time I logged in almost daily. Now I log in once a month, at best.

I still respond to a few posts that seem sincere, yet I find myself motivated to write here less and less.

That is the crux of the matter, I think. The motivation to write. It eventually seemed to Me to be a wasted effort, I would log off feeling that My time would be better spent elsewhere.

I'm not sure whether I want to rekindle the muse. There for awhile a specific individual was monopolizing every single topic and every single thread, knocking down every single response from anyone who posted. It got so tiresome that just I stopped reading the board. Now that she seems occupied elsewhere, there's a lull that's actually been kind of refreshing. Perhaps it's time for us to collectively dip our toes back in the water.

Interesting post. Thank you for putting it on the board, Lockit.

TM




Ambyant -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/17/2010 9:33:06 AM)

TexasMaam - well said.
  If I was interested in seeing what a master had to say I'd go to the ask a master board.
   Perhaps a solution is to create such a mix : Female & Male Dominants board.





LadyHibiscus -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/17/2010 9:41:36 AM)

I am a moderator of several lists on the Fetlife of Doom, and my friends are very active there. So, I decided to apply the same comments about our boards to the boards over there.

RESULT: WE ARE FUFU BUNNY LOVERS!! I thought that the femdom boards over there were filled with heathers who would eat their young with hoisen and a Tsingdao. WRONG!! That whole site is filled with hate and lose. Snark, vicious judgement, deliberate misreadings, uber-wise commentary from people with no real life experience, and trolls. OMG teh trollage!!

There are lots of good discussions, but good luck finding them. Most of it is the same old same old that I look at here, and say meh.

A symptom of the internet at large? Perhaps. I know that I am really checking myself now, and trying to be less short with threads that irritate me. In terms of new topics, I got nothing. It's not that I don't have things on my mind now and again that are worth bringing to the boards, I just think that there are so few on here that could add anything, I don't do it. Easier to email or call those persons directly!

This place is still my internet home---or at least, P & RS is---and my little posse and I will keep using it as our pervy Facebook. Even though most of us are also on our entirely-vanilla Facebooks. (which, BTW, add me if your FB is all vanilla too! I am a friend of IRON BEAR!! Yes, I RULE!)




BonesFromAsh -> RE: The Mistress Board (11/17/2010 10:15:51 AM)

On second thought....never mind.




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