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RE: Lawrence O'Donnell Responds To Glenn Beck: Were All... - 11/12/2010 3:02:13 PM   
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If you've been canning food as Glenn Beck suggests then you'll be fine.

I don't have the industrial process required to can food so I'm buying loads of tinned spaghetti from Tesco. I'm also saving up bars of soap because people hate to smell bad. Those soap bars will be like bars of gold after 'the event'.



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RE: Lawrence O'Donnell Responds To Glenn Beck: Were All... - 11/12/2010 3:07:39 PM   
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Funny.... if this were true, why do so many run like hell from the label???


Because throughout the years they have be taught to believe it's evil. Kinda like they used to use the word "commie".


Used to?

I see that used here on a regular basis.



I don't see commie used that much, at least not seriously. But I tend to skip over the ones who would probably be using it so I could just be missing them. Or maybe I should say not reading them, I doubt I am missing much.

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RE: Lawrence O'Donnell Responds To Glenn Beck: Were All... - 11/12/2010 4:00:09 PM   
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I haven't seen a link showing me a country where socialism was successful, care to enlighten us?



Given the hair-trigger use of the term by many, essentially all developed or upper level economies other than the US.

Denmark and Sweden would be pretty close to that territory in any event, the former ranking just behind the US and UK in ease of doing business ranking and Sweden not far behind.

Sweden has a per capita GDP a bit below the US, much lower infant mortality rate, higher life expectancy, a net surplus current account balance, positive personal savings rate (US is negative in both), before the crash had a  national budget surplus, sufficient parental leave where one can be at home with the child till kindergarten and both still keep the same jobs, etc.

Even with those high taxes they save much more than Americans, the single payer method for so many services greatly reducing the amount of disposable income that would otherwise be eaten up by individual per item purchases, leaving much more available for savings. Positive national savings means positive net exports.

It's hard to compare anything with recent data because of the turmoil, but prior to the crash most European countries were fairly economically successful and most any of them would be considered more socialist than the US.

There is no one -right- way to do it, despite some arguments claiming such, and European countries vary significantly from one to another even while being generally described as more 'socialist.'




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RE: Lawrence O'Donnell Responds To Glenn Beck: Were All... - 11/12/2010 7:02:43 PM   
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I don't know how to edit once I've logged out and come back, but the fourth line above reads opposite of intention. It should read;

" ... -increasing- the amount of disposable income that would otherwise be eaten up for individual per item purchases, ... " 

On the income side, the parent on leave get's 60 % (if I recall) of pay, so household income isn't reduced by as much as countries with unpaid leave, and on the expense side the comparatively lower disposable (after tax) income is not depleted by health insurance premiums, daycare, college, etc. so the lower consumption expenditure subtracted from disposable income leaves a larger surplus available for savings.

PS

The generally sturdy Swedish economy couldn't weather the latest storm quite well enough to keep Volvo from slipping into foreign hands,  but all I can say is that the Chinese will never get a hold of the ABBA catalog, not even if they promise to quit low-balling European public works project bids.





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