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41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The Unit... - 11/12/2010 7:25:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The United States That Our Children Are No Longer Taught In School Today, most American students don’t even understand what a central bank is, much less that the battle over central banks is one of the most important themes in U.S. history.
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RE: 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The ... - 11/12/2010 7:32:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yanno, this sort of horseshit just squicks me.

NO ONE REALLY KNOWS what a central bank is.

secrets of the banking society revealed.  the little known truths of scrip and gold.

Hey, we all sort of have a general, however vague concept that somewhere out there in the fog of war are these guys in the backroom  gloaming making money from money.

Some rather nattily dressed, I must say (after all, only clowns and businessmen wear suspenders) and others making money rather smarmishly.

The intrigue of central banking left me, after not being able to find a detailed book on how Hjalmer Schact did what he did.

Rather get a very good 'never fail' lefse recipe.

Ron

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RE: 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The ... - 11/12/2010 7:59:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		The federal reserve act of 1913 created a private agency with private stockholders. The name is a misnomer. They are not a government agency. It's the largest scam in world history. They used to print up money for cents on the dollar and loan it to our banks, which then paid back full face value plus interest. It's nothing but a government sanctioned money laundering scheme.

Today, they don't even have to print up money. All they have to do is change some figures in a computer, and wa la, instant capital to launder for their stockholders.

www.auditthefed.com

If this scam isn't exposed by Americans actually telling other people about it. It will continue until we are all living in tepees. Sign the damn petition.



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RE: 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The ... - 11/12/2010 8:11:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		So, you advocate governmental regulation and interference of a private industry in that industries could have a less that altruistic bent and would destroy with malum in se, in search of a buck?  Here I thought you were a nutsucker.

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RE: 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The ... - 11/12/2010 8:20:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		No, common sense would tell you that private industry can't control and manipulate the money supply. If you have no common sense then maybe you should read the Constitution. Only the federal government has the power to coin money.

Obviously, if we are going to make a profit off of changing figures in a computer, shouldn't the profit go to paying off the national debt, not increasing it.

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RE: 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The ... - 11/12/2010 8:20:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		I see a winner for most cryptic post of the day.

The problem is not that banks exist, it is the debt. The debt is at the root of extraordinary power to inflate and deflate the currency. If not for debt, interest rates wouldn't have much effect would they ? For example if you have a high CC balance and they jack up the rate you might be in trouble, but if the balance is zero you can have a good laugh.

Same principle, different scale. Not a bad article actually. Found a few facts new to me, others I knew. Of course there is the slant, but actually it wasn't too bad this time. Just a couple of facts thrown in to suggest a connection. Quite low in conjecture considering the source.

Note that those who opposed this banking system did because they knew what was bound to happen, and they knew that the only way out of it requires a massive effort and a good degree of strife. Would we be better off without it ? Bear in mind that in that case many would've starved and met with other hardships, things would not be like they are and many of us would not exist or possibly our ancestors may have never emmigrated from their country of origin. The country would be practically lawless compared to what people are used to today. Many technological innovations would not exist and we would have to make due with technology that we would consider primitive. Consider it carefully though, without debt.

My answer is yes, we would have been better off without it.

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RE: 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The ... - 11/12/2010 8:29:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls

No, common sense would tell you that private industry can't control and manipulate the money supply. If you have no common sense then maybe you should read the Constitution. Only the federal government has the power to coin money.

Obviously, if we are going to make a profit off of changing figures in a computer, shouldn't the profit go to paying off the national debt, not increasing it.



Maybe you should read the constitution.  In any case, the United States Treasury provides coin of the realm, the fed only distributes it.

This should also give you pause, and you can see why you (even if you had the money) could not buy into the Fed.  Fed membership is much like our stock exchange, you have to be a player in it to buy stock (which comes with rules).  You ain't a player, laddie buck. 


If common sense tells you that private industry cannot control money supply, then we should heavily regulate these multi-nationals, and see that they are not floating money that comes from us the world over, n'est ce pas?  

LOL.   

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RE: 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The ... - 11/12/2010 8:46:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am pleased with most of these replies.... Ron-  you lose me when you are cryptic.

I think the article could be polished up some- it could have mentioned some on Kennedy- and Ron Pauls failed attempt to audit the fed.
But the basic premise of the piece is spot in- the friction- of the large banks vs the freedom and well being of the peons.

That tension is paramount to understanding what America is. 

and unless we fix our monetary policy then no other problems solution will be a permanent fix.

BTW-  if 100 million Americans bought just 1 oz of silver- it would destroy JP Morgan.   :-)

It is no secret today on how much power the large banks have over the economy AND POLITICS!

If they were on the up and up- there would be nothing to hide- it would all be out in the open- but they will never just give up the gravy train- EVER.

Think of your apple crop-  every harvest-   10% or more- goes to the central bank.  Where as it could actually go to infrastructure- or to YOU.

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RE: 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The ... - 11/12/2010 8:56:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		There is nothing cryptic in what I said.

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RE: 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The ... - 11/12/2010 8:59:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Think of your apple crop-  every harvest-   10% or more- goes to the central bank.  Where as it could actually go to infrastructure- or to YOU.

Try again, because homey don't play that shit. This is not even an apples to oranges comparison, its apples to money.

The Fed is the US banker, a non-profit.  Any money left over goes into the treasury.

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RE: 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The ... - 11/12/2010 9:03:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		I know you guys with too much Internet access have this up your butt and don't give a damn about facts or history.

But compare the Central Banks and relative freedom in country after country, and the U.S. fares well. The less control, the lower inflation.

Spin it anyway you wish, but Congress created it, Congress could end it if it wanted (and doesn't). Its very independence, to the extent tolerated by Congress, gives it its ability to act when fiscal policy would both take forever and be governed by political interests, not economic well-being.



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RE: 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The ... - 11/12/2010 9:05:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		3 congressmen showed up and 2 voted for the fed.

I want a recount.

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RE: 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The ... - 11/12/2010 9:44:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		we just recounted, it was 2 for and one against.

thank you for playing.

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RE: 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The ... - 11/12/2010 9:46:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would not consider 2 congressman enough to validate a central bank.  Alot more then 2 signed on the Ron Pauls audit the fed- and look how that never happened.

If they have nothing to hide- show us the books.  All of the books.

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RE: 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The ... - 11/12/2010 9:49:37 AM   
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RE: 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The ... - 11/12/2010 9:55:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Look- if people do not stop derailing my threads- I am going to complain to a mod.

Stick to the topic.

That topic is a central bank in the US- and our history of fighting it.

If we did not have the fed- we would have no interest to pay- as the money is already ours.

Irregardless of my source- the US has a long tension with big banks.   We did after all declare independence from SOMETHING.   Which today-  we are not very independent.

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RE: 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The ... - 11/12/2010 9:59:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is not a derail.   The fucking OP is a derail.  The fact that McKinley was shot can not causally be linked to the Fed.

The 41 'facts' are asswipe, and will not be taught in schools, and never were in that order or that line of statements nor with that conspiratorial non compos mentis linkage.

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RE: 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The ... - 11/12/2010 10:05:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		You see fault with ALL 41 facts?

Or just certain ones in that bunch?

If so- which ones are inaccurate?

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RE: 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The ... - 11/12/2010 10:13:07 AM   
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Look- if people do not stop derailing my threads- I am going to complain to a mod.

Stick to the topic.


You demanding others dont derail your thread?

my god.. how fucking funny!!!

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RE: 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The ... - 11/12/2010 10:19:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		13,14,15,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,35 at the very first blush are absolutely nothing to do with facts concerning the central banks nor the fed.  there are some others with tenuous relations to it.

So, where 36%+ of the statements are asswipe at their inception, and some of the others really shakey ground, if the #42nd fact said that this list is drooling asswipe and does not have any logical connection to anything, then I would say that it increases the 'factual' portion of the overall article considerably. 

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