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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/15/2010 7:52:46 PM   
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servantforuse, yup that's what he does.

I hope I am not being to ambitious, I don't like to cook very much and we do have tons of food anyway, and the problem with trying new recipes the day of the big day, is that if you bomb you bomb in the spotlight lol.


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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/16/2010 2:37:49 AM   
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Cook the turkey in an oven bag. They still get the brown crispy skin but stay nice and moist.


I've tried those; they're not bad, but I still prefer the taste from a "traditional" roast, albeit with a flavoured butter.

And, as I said, if you can get a "black" turkey then you'll notice a much better taste ... but I don't know if one can get those in the States? I would presume so though, as you can get most things there.

The other big tip is resting the bird properly; once roasted it should be rested on a warmed plate, under a double layer of foil and a couple of towels on top, and placed somewhere warm (or at least, not cold) for 30-60 minutes, depending on size - this makes a huge difference to both moistness and taste, again IMHO of course. It moistens the skin somewhat, but the taste and moist flesh more than make up for it. In any case, I always serve a roast duck or goose with the turkey, so there's a choice of meats, thus there's always plenty of very crispy duck or goose skin to go around.

The one method (and it’s a uniquely US method) I haven't tried, but would love to, is deep frying; I’ve seen this on several cooking programmes, in giant, temperature-controlled fryers, and apparently the results are very good, or so the people concerned said. Sounds crazy but I’d love to see if it works. The other thing with using a separate deep fryer would be that it frees the oven up for all the other things you're roasting, so it’s doubly interesting.

As for accompaniments, my fave is Nigel Slater’s Brussels Sprouts with Bacon & Chestnuts; now I know a lot of people go green when one mentions Brussels Sprouts, but this is one that, time and again, people have tried and loved (even sprout haters);

Finely shred the raw Brussels Sprouts. Thinly slice some streaky (fatty) bacon or pancetta. Heat a tablespoon of oil in a large skillet or wok and fry off the bacon/pancetta til crispy, then remove from the skillet and reserve, keeping the bacon fat behind. Heat the bacon fat til smoking, then add the shredded Brussels sprouts and stir fry for about 2 mins over a high heat. Add the bacon back in, along with some cooked (roasted or boiled), chopped chestnuts (if you can’t get fresh the vacuum packed chestnuts are fine in this recipe). Season with freshly ground black pepper (no salt though coz the bacon’s usually salty enough) and serve immediately – this is last thing I make, just before everyone tucks in. It’s superb – it removes the heavier, bitter notes of the Brussels sprouts and leaves a delicate, slightly nutty taste, which the crispy bacon and chestnuts set off perfectly. And because they're stir-fried, the sprouts aren’t soggy, and retain their colour.

I’ve got a great forcemeat stuffing recipe too, which is a combination of a Jamie recipe and one made by a chef mate of mine – proper stuffing is essential, IMHO at least.

I do love a proper, traditional Christmas meal

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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/16/2010 2:38:34 AM   
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You forgot the turkey...


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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/16/2010 2:47:12 AM   
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I hope I am not being to ambitious, I don't like to cook very much and we do have tons of food anyway, and the problem with trying new recipes the day of the big day, is that if you bomb you bomb in the spotlight lol.



I never try anything "new" on big gathering meals; I always try the new dishes out (one at a time if necessary) at other times, so I can be sure the results will be ok.

That said, if you're roasting something there's not (assuming you keep an eye on it) too much that can go wrong – although I do recall the tale of my aunt & uncle’s Christmas dinner ...

... they’d slaved away for ages doing a wonderful, huge turkey and all the trimmings. She removed the finished turkey and left it to rest under cover while he did the rest of the trimmings.

Waiting for the rest of the family to arrive they took a breather for a swift glass of sherry together in the living room. Gazing contentedly out of their patio windows at the snow scene in their lovely big garden (while she watched some carol singing on TV), my uncle asked if she’d got anything else to eat, in case the turkey was ruined?

“Of course not, why do you ask?”

“Coz I've just seen the dog (a huge Irish setter) galloping down to the bottom of the garden, with a steaming turkey in her jaws, and I presume we didn't do 2 turkeys?”.

Cue hizzy fit from auntie. By the time they got the turkey back (from a highly entertained setter, who hadn’t had so much fun in years – the people really loved this chasing game!) it was in a state best described as “highly second-hand”.

They had all the trimmings for Christmas dinner ... and several tins of spam as the meat of the day

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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/16/2010 2:51:39 AM   
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could always make turkey mole, no worry bout it being too dry and besides, who doesn't love chocolate

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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/16/2010 2:58:58 AM   
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could always make turkey mole, no worry bout it being too dry and besides, who doesn't love chocolate




My fave thing about Christmas dinner isn't the Christmas dinner. It’s the turkey soup I make the next day, in the way my late granny taught me, so you end up with a gorgeous, rich broth – I don't make it any other time (coz I don't have turkey any other time of the year), so to me, the smell of it simmering away on the stove is a huge reminder of lovely Christmases past.

Turkey soup and lovely fresh bread. It's a winner.

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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/16/2010 3:18:46 AM   
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This thread is making me hungry. Last year, we fried one turkey (that my friend let become a mummy in the fryer) and I roasted one (which I must say, turned out wonderfully). My secret to a flavorful and moist turkey is to use a syringe injector. We found an injectable base in the marinade aisle last year, but I suppose butter or olive oil could work too. You suck the liquid up and inject it into the meat all over the poor guy before roasting. That, along with frequent basting during oven-time, made a delectable, moist bird. My husband loved it, and he's pretty picky.

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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/16/2010 3:22:45 AM   
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This thread is making me hungry. Last year, we fried one turkey (that my friend let become a mummy in the fryer) and I roasted one (which I must say, turned out wonderfully). My secret to a flavorful and moist turkey is to use a syringe injector. We found an injectable base in the marinade aisle last year, but I suppose butter or olive oil could work too. You suck the liquid up and inject it into the meat all over the poor guy before roasting. That, along with frequent basting during oven-time, made a delectable, moist bird. My husband loved it, and he's pretty picky.


Yes the injecting thing works well. I find the butter-under-the-skin thing less hassle though - it's more "fire & forget"

Although you've raised a very important point - regular basting is vital. Every 45 mins is best, IMHO.

And yes, I've been peckish since this thread kicked off! Can’t wait for Christmas dinner

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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/16/2010 5:19:43 AM   
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Brining a turkey, and being sure not to overcook, will give you a moist bird. This year I have my turducken.

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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/16/2010 5:42:51 AM   
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Brining a turkey, and being sure not to overcook, will give you a moist bird. This year I have my turducken.


Now I've heard of brining but never tried it ... the thing is, once I've found something that works for me I tend to stick to it, which isn't really right - very unadventurous of me.

With the Turducken, is that a duck inside a turkey? If so, how do you get the duck skin crispy?

Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall did one a few years back with 10 birds, de-boned and one stuffed inside the other

Video here (it's a C4 copyright so hopefully will still work elsewhere in the world, and you have to sit through a few ads, but it's worth it): The putting together starts at 33m40s ... *boggle*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLQXwtS9WBM

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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/16/2010 7:10:58 AM   
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From Wikipedia:

A turducken is a dish consisting of a de-boned chicken stuffed into a de-boned duck, which itself is stuffed into a de-boned turkey. The word turducken is a portmanteau of turkey, duck, and chicken or hen.
The thoracic cavity of the chicken/game hen and the rest of the gaps are stuffed, sometimes with a highly seasoned breadcrumb mixture or sausage meat, although some versions have a different stuffing for each bird. The result is a fairly solid layered poultry dish, suitable for cooking by braising, roasting, grilling, or barbecuing.

I get mine from a store in New Orleans, and it has a unique blend of stuffings. I slow roast, starting in the wee hours of Thanksgiving, and I end up with a delicious meal. I do miss the crisp duck skin, but the flavors do make up for it.

All my other birds get brined for a few hours before roasting, and I always end up with very moist, tender meat.

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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/16/2010 7:24:10 AM   
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From Wikipedia:

A turducken is a dish consisting of a de-boned chicken stuffed into a de-boned duck, which itself is stuffed into a de-boned turkey. The word turducken is a portmanteau of turkey, duck, and chicken or hen.
The thoracic cavity of the chicken/game hen and the rest of the gaps are stuffed, sometimes with a highly seasoned breadcrumb mixture or sausage meat, although some versions have a different stuffing for each bird. The result is a fairly solid layered poultry dish, suitable for cooking by braising, roasting, grilling, or barbecuing.

I get mine from a store in New Orleans, and it has a unique blend of stuffings. I slow roast, starting in the wee hours of Thanksgiving, and I end up with a delicious meal. I do miss the crisp duck skin, but the flavors do make up for it.

All my other birds get brined for a few hours before roasting, and I always end up with very moist, tender meat.


Ah, nice one, cheers for that.

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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/16/2010 7:26:59 AM   
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We had a tukducken at home last year. Blessfully, my asian boss has declared that since its a national holiday, we will be closed. Since im working 6 nights a week now, Master has made plans to take me out for thankgiving. Im just looking forward to only working 5 nights that week.

Yeah, i know, thats sad.

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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/16/2010 10:09:13 AM   
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That story was so funny, horrible of the dog but funny. My cousins dog, Yona, she got under the stove door and I don't know how but some how got all the turkey juice as it was dripping down I think the pan leaked or something, she was covered in juice and in dog heaven,  and her human had to bath her lol.


Money is kind of tight, we don't have the money to buy the ingredients twice to do a test dinner then again on the day of thanksgiving.

We w/ill have to hope it don't bomb, and if it does appologise?
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Cue hizzy fit from auntie. By the time they got the turkey back (from a highly entertained setter, who hadn’t had so much fun in years – the people really loved this chasing game!) it was in a state best described as “highly second-hand”.

They had all the trimmings for Christmas dinner ... and several tins of spam as the meat of the day



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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/16/2010 10:21:48 AM   
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We w/ill have to hope it don't bomb, and if it does appologise?


Well I'd say "sorry that bombed" if it does, once, but my general attitude when cooking for people is that, if they feel they're better able than I to guarantee a successful outcome then they should fuck off to the kitchen and do it themselves

Seriously though, if I have to "wing it", I tend to stick to recipes from sources and chefs whom I trust, and whose stuff has worked previously. Saint Delia, for example, for all her faults, rarely throws you a curve ball. Although I did find *one* error in one of her cookbooks, later corrected online after I told them, that ensured a beautifully prepared, round, charcoal briquette when followed to the letter - someone had got the time wrong; 10 mins was what was required of the blind baking, so you can imagine the results of 30 mins.

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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/16/2010 1:02:45 PM   
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Yea

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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/16/2010 1:56:13 PM   
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My electric roaster makes delish and moist turkey. Never be afraid to cook a turkey and freeze leftovers!

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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/16/2010 4:00:33 PM   
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the first time I roasted a turkey in an electric roaster, it literally fell off the bones. I was lifting it out with the twine cradle that comes with it, and the legs and wings fell right off as it was being lifted out.

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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/18/2010 9:00:27 AM   
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I have bit off a huge chunk of work for myself with the pumpkins , hopefully daddy will be helpful and help me as much as possible.

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RE: This year I am going to cook a bit an decorate for ... - 11/18/2010 5:56:11 PM   
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      As a mother, I cook every year for the past 15 years, i am taking off and dining out with family ...NO DISHES!!!!! I will make a home made sweet potato pie cause my young ones will kill me if i dont

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