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On the meaning of good faith. - 4/28/2006 12:22:16 AM   
disretion7


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Status: offline 		Dear Mistresses,
 
I see others have already raised the issue of "tributes" and "Dommes not replying to email" but, though those issues do have some bearing on my question, the "good faith" part of it is the main issue in my case.
 
Recently I sent a "good faith" financial tribute to a pro-domme, here, because she stipulated that was necessary to progress on to requesting a photo and booking a session under her.  After I sent the tribute, I am no longer able to persuade her to reply for whatever reason.
 
I don't know if this is because I said something stupid, or because she is so exceptionally beautiful and powerful that she feels no need to reciprocate my gesture, period, or because those qualities mean that she is so overwhelmed, with admirers, that it will simply take a long time for her to get back to me, even with her best intentions.
 
Even if she just does not want to reciprocate, I am glad she got the money and have no objection to her keeping it.  I would be grateful to know, however, one way or the other, and hope that another mistress, here, won't mind asking her (on my behalf) what the true situation is?  I would accept whatever the answer, with equanimity and (if it goes against me) not attempt to pursue an arrangement which will not be requited.
 
Thanks for your kind consideration of my situation and for whatever anybody is able and willing to do.

Respectfully,

disretion7 (Phil) 
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RE: On the meaning of good faith. - 4/28/2006 1:17:17 AM   
BlkTallFullfig


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Status: offline 		Dear Phil,
Your Nic Disrection is missing the C, which would mean you'd possibly looked up the word
quote:


dis·cre·tion    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (d-skrshn)
n.
  1. The quality of being discreet; circumspection. See Synonyms at prudence.
  2. Ability or power to decide responsibly.
  3. Freedom to act or judge on one's own: All the decisions were left to our discretion.




dis·cretion·al adj.
dis·cretion·al·ly adv.
How do I say this nicely?   Are you stupid?  Why would you send your money to a person you don't know how to contact beyond on collarme?
You say you would be grateful to know her reply either way:  When someone doesn't reply to you, it generally means they don't want to deal with you, so I think she is replying loud and clear.

I'm sorry if this story is true, and indeed you've been taken for a fool, but keep your money to pay for dinner when sitting face to face next time perhaps, or find a pro in your city to whom you can drive/meet/talk/play.  
...And welcome to the boards, lol.... You will find much conversation on the subject matter you can read, and no one here can help you unless you use good judgement.  M

< Message edited by BlkTallFullfig -- 4/28/2006 1:18:07 AM >

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RE: On the meaning of good faith. - 4/28/2006 5:27:53 AM   
MstrssPassion


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I doubt anyone else emailing this person would get a reply.
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you already know this
#3
I wouldn't be the least bit suprised that the actual person who set up the profile is NOT the person in the photo

I hope the money was not a large sum.
Learn from this & don't fall for this sort of scam again.





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RE: On the meaning of good faith. - 4/28/2006 5:38:03 AM   
givemyall


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Status: offline 		Im skint.... and i'll even phone you up after i've spent the money to say 'thanks'...lol

Why can I never find anyone daft enough to send me money .  Ok ok, I know I would only spend it on choccy and crips lol

Got to say though, you got something very worthwhile for your money...... a lesson in how not to behave!

Claire

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RE: On the meaning of good faith. - 4/28/2006 5:55:13 AM   
Lashra


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Status: offline 		Yep you bought yourself a valuable lesson, never think with that lower head it will get you into trouble everytime. Never send money to people that you don't know and don't believe everything you see on the internet.

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RE: On the meaning of good faith. - 4/28/2006 5:57:17 AM   
MHOO314


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Status: offline 		On behalf of the lifestyle, I am sorry this happened to you--however, you won't find a Mistress who will do your "bidding"--you are indeed of enough life experience to do that on your own--besides, I think you know the answer to this one. More caution in the future.

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RE: On the meaning of good faith. - 4/28/2006 6:16:07 AM   
ladiespet77


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Status: offline 		Sadly there are allot of these"finacial Dommes" out there these days.More and More to be sure and Most not Really even Dommes.Just people trying to make a quik buc off some poor  desperate sub.....hopefully you have learned somthing...unless of course You like being taken advantage of in such ways...For me though, i would agree with BLKTALLFULFIG(i usually do..lol)..My money is Much better spent on a dinner when i am sitting right across from a perspective Mistress

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RE: On the meaning of good faith. - 4/28/2006 8:20:42 AM   
Proprietrix


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Live and learn.

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RE: On the meaning of good faith. - 4/28/2006 8:35:18 AM   
thetammyjo


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Status: offline 		I have to agree with others -- you've been taken for a ride and charged for it.

I'm sorry and I hope it wasn't more than you could afford to lose with gas prices and other prices going up and up.

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RE: On the meaning of good faith. - 4/28/2006 9:41:05 AM   
MistWalker


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Status: offline 		*smiles softly* i think i will refrain from my inital thought of a smart ass comment... though its soemthing i would suggest  no one do, and soemthign i would have never done.. i do understand the desperation of some to meet any one R/l and gain some sort of experence. though as near every one else has said, live and learn, do not part with your money so esaly next time, be sure of were its going and what your getting for it..

i often think of a pro in this kind of situation as a therepist, or the like, for new ones, i know many can be shy, or confused, warry to make contact with groups the like.. it can be hard initaly to open up and meet  people, and i supose in those cases a pro may fill a role to ease ones way into things. but personaly ive always felt that doing so you miss out on many  of the things the Life is actualy about, unless all you want is the kink factor, there is no real relationship to be formed there. *shrugs* to each there own .. and be more carefull in the future i suppose ..


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RE: On the meaning of good faith. - 4/28/2006 10:10:18 AM   
GoddessDustyGold


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quote:

ORIGINAL: disretion7

Recently I sent a "good faith" financial tribute to a pro-domme, here, because she stipulated that was necessary to progress on to requesting a photo and booking a session under her.  After I sent the tribute, I am no longer able to persuade her to reply for whatever reason.
 


Dear Phil,
Welcome to the boards.  Hopefully you will stay and learn and read, read, read.
My question is about the above snipped portion of your post.
You had to send money to progress to receiving a photo and booking a session?  How did you know she was so beautiful if you have not already seen a photo? What kind of photo were you promised?  That would be a first clue as to the reality of this Domina.
If a boy is local, I will meet him personally.  I only hope the amount of "good faith" you sent was not more than the act of picking up the check for a nice dinner.  At least, in that case, you would have had the pleasure of her conversaton and vanilla company of a couple of hours.
Be wiser in the future. 
I will also add that your profile screams "do me" and is quite fantasy laden.  I do not see a single reference to service in there, but a definite tone of being served in your way.  Other than the fact that you wish to engage in acts that are generally the role of the bottom, you project more like a Dominant.  Therefore, My next step would be to come to a conclusion that you seek a certain type of Lady, and that Lady is more likely to be a 'net player. And you are less likely to get a response from a Lady who would cater to those fanatsies.  Or not cater to them, but take advantage of  the fantasy driven mindset you project.
There is nothing wrong with what you want, but it is not submissive.    IMO, you are leaving yourself wide open for this sort of rip-off.
Welcome, again.  

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RE: On the meaning of good faith. - 4/28/2006 10:41:09 AM   
LadyHugs


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Status: offline 		Dear Discretion,

As a member of the lifestyle for over thirty years, your story is why I stick around, even if I doubt if I'll find any slave here.  I stay as to apologize for our lifestyle for tolerating such individuals.

My advice to all slaves and submissives, to treat any interaction with a dominant and or submissive type as a business.  Acting in "good faith" is a legal term to which you sought a contract through the process of tribute.  It is a fee.  I'd personally would say to pay half or less and say the rest will be sent as the dominant fulfills the bargain.  Now days, anybody can send photographs and be totally different behind the computer monitor. 

If you want to toss money away, I'll be happy to receive it, as I purchase whips and other tools to those who have had theirs stolen, lost in Katrina and or fire, as to start up a new toy bag.  Something I have been doing out of my own pocket for years.

I also will mention, that it is possible to take this individual into small claims court; as it was a business transaction.  Of course the ripple effect is what keeps people from taking such "tribute" rip off doms and dommes to court.  Perhaps contacting the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom (NCSF) may give guidence as well.

In addition, I would notify Collarme.com about this; as to yank this individual's ability to sucker others and profit off honest efforts to seek their happiness.

Respectfully submitted,
Lady Hugs

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RE: On the meaning of good faith. - 4/28/2006 12:22:34 PM   
MsMacComb


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Status: offline 		Most of the online "money dommes" are using photos they ripped off from some other site and are actually 285 pound hairy guys sitting around in their underwear. The rest are little old ladies supplementing Social Security. Send your money to a charity instead.

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RE: On the meaning of good faith. - 4/28/2006 12:43:32 PM   
ladiespet77


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Status: offline 		I am sorry LadyHugs....You are kidding right???  small claims court..NCSF...notify collarme...

This is a Free online BDSM site.All sorts of people are going to try all sorts of things with differant agendas.
To involve Any of these people will only fan the flames of the Goverment telling us who we can meet and how to behave when we do so.And as for contacting collarme goes .How hard  is it to oepn a new box useing a new email adress

No ,i am sorry that is ridicules.......This or Any other person will learn soon enough this is an adult game  and they will need to act like one to survive

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RE: On the meaning of good faith. - 4/28/2006 6:48:36 PM   
BlkTallFullfig


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ladiespet77
No ,i am sorry that is ridiculous.......This or Any other person will learn soon enough this is an adult game  and they will need to act like one to survive
I agree, but after I posted my opinion on this matter, I looked for other posts by  disretion7, and found some that give me the impression he isn't completely innocent about BDSM, and professional domination.  Disrection7 had this advice on another thread
quote:

I've never been able to come under a purely lifestyle domme and I suspect most other guy seldom can, either, because male submissives substantially outnumber female dommes. I HAVE been under 9 pro-dommes, already, and though, they did not filful ALL of my fantasies, they were all so good that I feel like they ALL gave me great experiences for the money, whatever purists think on the matter. Furthermore, I came away with extensive video, of my experiences, to view or share.
 
Perhaps not right for everyone but I suspect that yourself and most others would not regret a pro-domme experience. 
disretion7 


I'm wondering about the veracity of this story altogether, because part of the story doesn't make complete sense
quote:

I sent a "good faith" financial tribute to a pro-domme, here, because she stipulated that was necessary to progress on to requesting a photo and booking a session under her.  After I sent the tribute, I am no longer able to persuade her to reply for whatever reason.
 
I don't know if this is because I said something stupid, or because she is so exceptionally beautiful and powerful that she feels no need to reciprocate my gesture
As GoddessDustyGold asked, in one sentence he says the tribute was necessary in order for him to get a photo, and in another he knows she is so beautiful, and perhaps the reason he isn't getting a reply.  He/she probably had a profile photo stolen from someone else which made disretion7 loose majority circulation to his brain, and that would be the only way he would send money to someone in order to be allowed to speak with her.   M

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RE: On the meaning of good faith. - 4/28/2006 9:18:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsMacComb

... The rest are little old ladies supplementing Social Security...



I'm sorry. I just can't get outraged about the result of the choice the OP made.

I think there are worse places to throw away one's money than giving it to inventive little old ladies supplementing their Social Security (within reason, of course ) while giving a bit of a thrill...


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RE: On the meaning of good faith. - 4/29/2006 4:43:51 AM   
disretion7


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Status: offline 		Hi Everybody,
 
BlkTallFullfig makes a good point that does bear explanation.  I should have clarified that the domme, in question, expressed willingness to send me a photo of her in engaging attire but that I know she is beautiful because of her MAIN profile photo, however subdued.  I could only IMAGINE she was especially popular because usually appears here more than most dommes. As to the veracity of my story, I could provide the Western Union MTCN number, that accompanied my tribute, but realize that does not necessarily prove my WHOLE story.  I can only HOPE I'm taken on faith, so long as I don't lie but, forasmuch as others may think, I already know that, for those who would believe, no evidence is necessary and, for those who won't none will suffice.
 
Respectfully,
 
disretion7 (Phil)

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RE: On the meaning of good faith. - 4/29/2006 1:18:42 PM   
BlkTallFullfig


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Status: offline 		Dear Phil,
I'm Glad you've learned something.
Glad to have you here participating and sharing your experiences.    M

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RE: On the meaning of good faith. - 4/29/2006 1:33:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: disretion7

Hi Everybody,
 
BlkTallFullfig makes a good point that does bear explanation.  I should have clarified that the domme, in question, expressed willingness to send me a photo of her in engaging attire but that I know she is beautiful because of her MAIN profile photo, however subdued.  I could only IMAGINE she was especially popular because usually appears here more than most dommes. As to the veracity of my story, I could provide the Western Union MTCN number, that accompanied my tribute, but realize that does not necessarily prove my WHOLE story.  I can only HOPE I'm taken on faith, so long as I don't lie but, forasmuch as others may think, I already know that, for those who would believe, no evidence is necessary and, for those who won't none will suffice.
 
Respectfully,
 
disretion7 (Phil)


Just curious how much money would a woman extract in order to see a photo?

Akasha


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RE: On the meaning of good faith. - 4/29/2006 2:10:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsMacComb

Most of the online "money dommes" are using photos they ripped off from some other site and are actually 285 pound hairy guys sitting around in their underwear. The rest are little old ladies supplementing Social Security. Send your money to a charity instead.


Wiping the tea off my screen. I got a visual when I read this of my Granny and my mechanic sitting writing dirty IM's. Too wrong I tell ya.

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