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If the dems disagree with extending the Bush tax cuts, they should vote against doing so. Lets see how many of them do.
You really need to start reading before responding. If you had, you'd see how ridiculous I'd find such a reply--after all, I didn't say a word about Democrats (who SUPPORT the Bush tax cuts, with the exception of the upper bracket).
But this speaks to the problem--people, like you, insist the world is divided between the imaginary forces of left and right, instead of looking at is as it is. You've bought into the theater of manipulated thought so completely that you no longer recognize anything else.
I typed MY view. That's because I'm not a parrot, nor do I represent the Democratic Party, with which, if you actually READ what I've been writing for years, I disagree on quite a few points (though granted, I disagree with Republicans more often).
THIS is why the deficit/debt situation continues. Before anyone of any party sits down to seriously address the budget, they are going to have to--HAVE TO--admit to ALL FIVE of these conditions:
*Here are the taxes I'm willing to raise.
*Here are the cuts I'm willing to make.
*Losing those areas are going to have negative repercussions--here they are.
*Here's what I plan to do about those repercussions.
*Balancing the budget is going to contract the economy.
There is no way around any of these five in the world of reality. Anything harping on only parts is using the debt as an excuse to manipulate support for an agenda that is--that MUST--ultimately make the deficit worse.
While I do typically support Democrats, it is, frankly, only because Republicans since 1980 have become so bat-shit crazy in their simplistic agenda that is little more than selling voters simplicity while transferring public dollars to their economic pursuits. The only tool I have to keep this in check is Democrats. If other options appear, fine. Or if Republicans ever come back to their senses (though the Teas are going in the opposite direction, so not likely in the short run).
What we're left with is this--the tax cuts were a major mistake for which we paid and are paying dearly.
You've been getting tax cuts for 30 years. Have you noticed the money? Clearly Teas haven't, as they think they're Taxed Enough Already even as their taxes keep falling. At what point does one wake up and realize something's wrong with that perception?
In any event, if I take a leadership position in the Democratic Party, or if I am explicitly defending a Democratic policy, feel free to chime in with your canned opposition responses. Otherwise, and which is most of the time, I am speaking for myself, my own analysis, and that of other independent analysts.
After all, I get paid to produce results, not win elections or sway polls. To do that, I have to start with realistic premises.
The world is not a video game between the armies of left and right. Walk away from the radio/TV/web site opinion spinners and think for yourself.
Or if not, at least do me the courtesy of recognizing my views as my own, rather than cramming them into a box where they don't belong.
Clearly, my stated views on this topic are at odds with the Democrats AND the Republicans. On this issue, those who claim the parties are all the same are absolutely correct. To turn to them, without insisting they address the five criteria mentioned above, will never resolve the problem, but only further worsen it.
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