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So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 2:36:11 PM   
CaringandReal


Posts: 1397
Joined: 2/15/2008
Status: offline 		I mean this to be a light thread, but I also thought it'd be interesting/fun to request a few rules along with it.

Submissive types:

1. Up to five words or short phrases (short phrase = up to three words, max) on the assets side and up to five words or short phrases on the liabilities side. I provide an example, below.
Asset = an inner trait or characteristic that makes you a good or valuable submissive.
Liability = an inner trait or charactersistic that detracts from your value as a submissive.
Ahem! Note the use of "inner." Even if you are hot as fuck, please avoid physical references.

2. Here is the hard rule: In this thread, only post those ten words or phrases and no more. No explanations. Do not respond if someone comments on your balance sheet. Do not comment on others' balance sheets. Do not comment on others comments about others balance sheets. It's just a game, you can play along or not, as you wish. I just thought it would be fun to try this. I also think participating in another thread that talks about this thread would be cheating, but I am hardcore. ;)

3. Be as honest as you can.

4. Oh yeah, almost forgot! Some submissive traits are assumed "given" in this and you do not have to waste valuable asset (or liability?) slots with them. These traits include devotion/love, loyalty, obedience. If you're a submissive this thread assumes you have these at minimum, or you wouldn't be what you are. Maybe this isn't the brightest assumption to make, but who said this was the brightest of threads? :p Now, if you DO NOT have these traits and wish to mention that fact in the column of your choice, by all means, be my guest!

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Now, Dominant types:

1. Do whatever the hell you want.

2. Commenting would be nice, but it's up to you, of course. Some leading questions:
How closely do the traits expressed by submissive i correlate with your needs j?
Are the liabilities on balance sheet X overweight or underweight when compared to the assets?
Any comments about the specific traits the submissives are mentioning...or their placement?
What do certain traits mean to you? Why are they important or unimportant?

3. You can also try to trick the submissives into replying longer than their ten words, if you wish!

Them's the rules. There will be no further clarifications of these unless some sneaky dominant tricks me into it. :/

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Assets:
creative
peaceful
patient
needy
open-minded

Liabilities:
paranoia
lazy
smart mouth
forms expectations
low self-esteem


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RE: So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 2:50:53 PM   
agirl


Posts: 4530
Joined: 6/14/2004
Status: offline 		Assets:

laidback
fairly willing
brave
affectionate
passionate


Liabilities:

Stubborn
Contrary
Intense
passionate
laidback

agirl



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RE: So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 3:39:31 PM   
catize


Posts: 3020
Joined: 3/7/2006
Status: offline 		Assets
Creative writer
Not monogamous
Good memory
Clear communicator
Realistic

Liabilities
Good memory
Scary when angry
Not monogamous
Have limits
Own my limits

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Robert Parker, Stranger in Paradise

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RE: So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 4:03:26 PM   
peacefulplace


Posts: 157
Joined: 8/22/2010
Status: offline 		Assets:
Intelligent
Good conversationalist
Ability to concentrate on one thing/person for a very long time
Joyful
Enthusiastic

Liabilities:
Need more time to myself than most people
Rebellious streak
Cling to established routines
Not at all spontaneous
Suspicious

This was fun, CaringandReal, so thank you for coming up with the topic.

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~~Emma Goldman

One thing is clear to me: We, as human beings, must be willing to accept people who are different from ourselves.
~~Barbara Jordan

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RE: So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 4:22:37 PM   
anniezz338


Posts: 1183
Joined: 8/17/2010
Status: offline 		Assets
open minded
easy going
positive
playful
intelligent


Liabilities
ironing
cooking
worry
hesitant
can be sassy

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RE: So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 4:26:07 PM   
sweetsub1957


Posts: 2201
Joined: 4/28/2009
Status: offline 		~FR~
In no particular order:

Assets
Intelligent
Generous
Lengthy Attention Span
Flexible
Comforting

Liabilities
Suspicious
Need to Work on My Patience
Cries Easily
Shy at Times
Have Limits

~sweetsub~

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In lowering yourself to talking behind my back, you're perfectly positioned to kiss my ass.

An it harm none, do what ye wilt.

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RE: So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 4:40:46 PM   
gungadin09


Posts: 3232
Joined: 3/19/2010
Status: offline 		Assets
follows directions
feels deeply
good cook
intelligent
usually easygoing

Liabilities
emotionally needy
slightly neurotic
extremely introverted
low libido
poor communicator

pam



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RE: So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 5:25:11 PM   
leadership527


Posts: 5026
Joined: 6/2/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: CaringandReal
4. Oh yeah, almost forgot! Some submissive traits are assumed "given" in this and you do not have to waste valuable asset (or liability?) slots with them. These traits include devotion/love, loyalty, obedience. If you're a submissive this thread assumes you have these at minimum, or you wouldn't be what you are.
Uh... just a little point of order... I'm interested in this thread but I can name quite a few submissives who don't see things like "obedience" as relevant to their dynamic. Ditto with love/devotion, etc.

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~Jeff

I didn't so much "enslave" Carol as I did "enlove" her. - Me
I want a joyous, loving, respectful relationship where the male is in charge and deserves to be. - DavanKael

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RE: So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 5:33:05 PM   
peacefulplace


Posts: 157
Joined: 8/22/2010
Status: offline 		Really, Jeff? (No, I am not being sarcastic at all.) I can't imagine any sub or slave who doesn't view obedience as part of her/his dynamic. That's why I was glad that Caring excluded it from the original list--I thought everyone's top 2 or 3 assets would be the same if she hadn't. Regardless of the level and extent of obedience, I thought all subs/slaves would consider themselves obedient on at least some level, whether conditional or no limits. At least that has been my experience. Apparently, I do not get out enough--I'm not spontaneous enough for such things.

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If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.
~~Emma Goldman

One thing is clear to me: We, as human beings, must be willing to accept people who are different from ourselves.
~~Barbara Jordan

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RE: So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 5:35:03 PM   
peacefulplace


Posts: 157
Joined: 8/22/2010
Status: offline 		[b]Oh, and I just realized that, according to Caring's rules, perhaps I should not have commented...? I'm sorry if that is the case, Caring. My apologies!

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If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.
~~Emma Goldman

One thing is clear to me: We, as human beings, must be willing to accept people who are different from ourselves.
~~Barbara Jordan

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RE: So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 5:57:16 PM   
Tantriqu


Posts: 2026
Joined: 12/29/2006
Status: offline 		Interesting!

Never thought about it before, but absolutely certain liabilities outweigh all the brownie points.
Most qualities are two sides of a coin [such as independent might be paired with too aloof], but I see no good coming from low libido, bratty, paranoid, low self-esteem, poor communicator, needy or non-monogamous, so although it appears no male subs have answered as such, these would alllll put the owner on my delete list. Good memory as a negative makes the angels weep.
Some qualities require more info, such as 'has limits': limits are not unexpected and one of those coins, but the limits would have to be elucidated.

But I would also need to see these as pie charts!
I'll think of my latest great sub, who was: 20% each intelligent, funny, kind, passionate; and 5% each too chivalrous, stressed, over-worked, and scarred.
But all of that made him damned well perfect!

< Message edited by Tantriqu -- 11/26/2010 5:58:06 PM >

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RE: So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 6:00:11 PM   
kalikshama


Posts: 14805
Joined: 8/8/2010
Status: offline 		Assets:
likes to surrender control
open minded
enjoys serving
intelligent
good communicator

Liabilities:
control freak
suspicious
can't host (liability to D)
not in my 20's (liability to BG)
won't beg for things he likes that I don't like (liability to DS)



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RE: So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 6:04:23 PM   
subinlife


Posts: 263
Joined: 5/20/2008
Status: offline 		Assets:
good cook
intelligent
long attention span
perfectionist
creative
 
Liabilities:
perfectionist
cares too deeply
anticipates directions
can be bitchy
age

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RE: So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 6:25:20 PM   
Aynne88


Posts: 3873
Joined: 8/29/2008
Status: offline 		Assets:

Intelligent
Driven and ambitous
Business minded
Open minded sexually
Non-conformist

Liabilities:

Competitive while working
Argumentative in business
Can be tempermental
Too independent sometimes
Insatiable..


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RE: So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 6:30:08 PM   
Missokyst


Posts: 6041
Joined: 9/9/2006
Status: offline 		Assets:
Intelligent
Artistic
Logical
Independent
Control oriented

Liabilities:
Intelligent
Artistic
Logical
Independent
Control oriented


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RE: So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 6:49:13 PM   
DesFIP


Posts: 25191
Joined: 11/25/2007
From: Apple County NY
Status: offline 		What one person would consider assets, another will consider liabilities and vice versa. Hopefully I have no major liabilities or else why is he still with me?

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RE: So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 6:51:11 PM   
leadership527


Posts: 5026
Joined: 6/2/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: peacefulplace
Really, Jeff? (No, I am not being sarcastic at all.) I can't imagine any sub or slave who doesn't view obedience as part of her/his dynamic
Yeah, I had to wrap my head around it too... honestly the first time I heard it I thought it was a joke. Not so. I've come to understand that for some people, dominance is expressed in the form of "She will do what I want her to do." For others, it's expressed in the form of "I can do what I want to do and she won't call the cops."

I'm in the first camp. Carol and I are obedience based. So between us the expectation is absolute obedience all the time. If I tell Carol to go to bed, I expect her to go to bed. Failure to do so would be the end of our dynamic.... or at least the end of our M/s dynamic.

However, for some other couple, it might be that he tells her to go to bed and she says, "No way!" Then, he grabs her, hauls her into the bedroom, tosses her on the bed and closes and locks the door behind him. In this example, I'm not seeing any obedience whatsoever. To ME, that'd cost Carol her collar. To the couple, there's nothing amiss. He's in charge and he got his way... what's the problem? They're not focused on obedience. They are focused on control.

Nope... not all slaves and submissives have any connection whatsoever to "obedience".


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~Jeff

I didn't so much "enslave" Carol as I did "enlove" her. - Me
I want a joyous, loving, respectful relationship where the male is in charge and deserves to be. - DavanKael

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RE: So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 6:59:48 PM   
DesFIP


Posts: 25191
Joined: 11/25/2007
From: Apple County NY
Status: offline 		I'm neither obedience wired nor service oriented. My main drive is emotional transparency. I usually do what he asks  but that's simply because I love him and want him to be happy. If for any reason I don't feel up to it, that's fine with him as long as I explain what's wrong. Most D'lg s aren't obedience oriented either.

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Slave to laundry

Cynical and proud of it!


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RE: So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 7:17:18 PM   
delicatelydirty


Posts: 126
Joined: 2/7/2010
Status: offline 		assets
smart
independent
affectionate
giving
creative

liabilities
always putting others first
tendency to run when hurt
possesive/teritorial
emotional
tactless


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RE: So what's your submissive balance sheet? - 11/26/2010 7:18:12 PM   
nancygirl34652


Posts: 291
Joined: 3/10/2010
Status: offline 		Assets:
humorous
smart
personable
sexual
dependable

Liabilities:
procrastination
shyness
cynicism
forgetfulness
daydreaming

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