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RE: Feds: Somali-born teen plotted car-bombing - 11/28/2010 3:15:50 PM   
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Pathetic.

Not nearly as pathetic relying on Infowars for a source, no matter how "witty and amusing" you may find that kind of brain-dead conspiracy pap they churn out to be.  If you don't like your nitwit sources being brought into question then crying about it, don't use them.

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Gee Stef, you seem particularly warped tonight even for *you.*

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RE: Feds: Somali-born teen plotted car-bombing - 11/28/2010 3:16:58 PM   
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I have no problem with being challenged. But I would prefer that if you have nothing to say then you just STFU and leave the name-calling for school. I'm blocking you now.

Oh noes! 

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RE: Feds: Somali-born teen plotted car-bombing - 11/28/2010 3:23:11 PM   
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A more sensible way to reply to my post might be to challenge the content.



And why on earth should I respond sensibly, when the premise is nonsensical?

Besides, I wouldn't want to risk getting reported, should I call a spade a fucking shovel.

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RE: Feds: Somali-born teen plotted car-bombing - 11/28/2010 3:34:16 PM   
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The premise is that the title of this thread is wrong. It should be:

FBI and Somali-born teen plotted car bombing

The FBI seem to have quite a history of employing entrapment as a substitute for investigation. One might almost suspect that it's done to create the impression that the FBI are being successful in their efforts in the 'war against terror', or even that it is done to create the impression that the 'threat' against the US posed by foreigners is larger than it actually is. Either way, it all looks a bit dodgy to me.

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RE: Feds: Somali-born teen plotted car-bombing - 11/28/2010 4:19:16 PM   
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Heritic, that was a hundred and fifty years or so ago!
Back when we "needed" immigration. The U.S. is a mature country now. The only immigration we need now is highly skilled, M.D.s, Nurses, Scientists etc.



Hey Popeye, are you a highly skilled MD, nurse, or scientist?

If not, does that mean we should kick your ass out of here to make room for those immigrants who are?

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RE: Feds: Somali-born teen plotted car-bombing - 11/28/2010 9:07:04 PM   
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The premise is that the title of this thread is wrong. It should be:

FBI and Somali-born teen plotted car bombing

The FBI seem to have quite a history of employing entrapment as a substitute for investigation. One might almost suspect that it's done to create the impression that the FBI are being successful in their efforts in the 'war against terror', or even that it is done to create the impression that the 'threat' against the US posed by foreigners is larger than it actually is. Either way, it all looks a bit dodgy to me.



Entrapment would mean they contacted him initially. Entrapment would have been an FBI agent, known as such to the teen, telling the teen what he was doing would not get him into trouble. This man... at 19, your considered a man... wasnt entrapped... he was trapped in a web of his own making.

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RE: Feds: Somali-born teen plotted car-bombing - 11/28/2010 9:11:30 PM   
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The premise is that the title of this thread is wrong. It should be:

FBI and Somali-born teen plotted car bombing

The FBI seem to have quite a history of employing entrapment as a substitute for investigation. One might almost suspect that it's done to create the impression that the FBI are being successful in their efforts in the 'war against terror', or even that it is done to create the impression that the 'threat' against the US posed by foreigners is larger than it actually is. Either way, it all looks a bit dodgy to me.



The FBI's affidavit says the friend in Pakistan referred him to another associate, but gave him an e-mail address that Mohamud tried repeatedly to use unsuccessfully. The official said FBI agents saw that as an opportunity and e-mailed Mohamud in response, claiming to be associates of his friend, the former student.

The affidavit said Mohamud was warned several times about the seriousness of his plan, that women and children could be killed, and that he could back out. But he told agents: "Since I was 15 I thought about all this" and "It's gonna be a fireworks show ... a spectacular show."

Granted, this was an FBI affadavit, but the underlined doesn't sound like entrapment.

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RE: Feds: Somali-born teen plotted car-bombing - 11/28/2010 9:18:59 PM   
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I will wait for the trial....Good chance that this is much ado about nothing.

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RE: Feds: Somali-born teen plotted car-bombing - 11/28/2010 9:42:54 PM   
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Heritic, that was a hundred and fifty years or so ago!
Back when we "needed" immigration. The U.S. is a mature country now. The only immigration we need now is highly skilled, M.D.s, Nurses, Scientists etc.

Hey Popeye, are you a highly skilled MD, nurse, or scientist?

If not, does that mean we should kick your ass out of here to make room for those immigrants who are?

I find it particularly ironic that the kid's dad immigrated in the '90s and guess what! The dad's a highly skilled engineer.

You know, exactly the type of immigrant pop wants.

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RE: Feds: Somali-born teen plotted car-bombing - 11/28/2010 9:57:22 PM   
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I will wait for the trial....Good chance that this is much ado about nothing.



No, DG, it's much ado about something right now, for every other malignant fuck who might be thinking along similar lines, and has ever reached out on the internet. It's a neon sign that says "get nervous, bitches."

Far better, I think, to lead this turd down a garden path with a cell at the end, than to risk him finding a plot he could pull off all by himself, or making a connection with someone real.

The trial might be fun though. I wonder if the defense atty will go with a "he's too stupid to be really guilty," approach.


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RE: Feds: Somali-born teen plotted car-bombing - 11/28/2010 10:13:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
Heritic, that was a hundred and fifty years or so ago!
Back when we "needed" immigration. The U.S. is a mature country now. The only immigration we need now is highly skilled, M.D.s, Nurses, Scientists etc.

Hey Popeye, are you a highly skilled MD, nurse, or scientist?

If not, does that mean we should kick your ass out of here to make room for those immigrants who are?

I find it particularly ironic that the kid's dad immigrated in the '90s and guess what! The dad's a highly skilled engineer.

You know, exactly the type of immigrant pop wants.




Yes, Engineers not their fucking rotten little kids who look like a pasty faced girl and want to kill people with bombs!
WTF is going on with our govt?

No Rule, I'm not a highly skilled M.D. Nurse or Scientist. I'm retired military and I shoot "expert" with handgun, rifle and shotgun.
We have 20-30 million illegal aliens that we could "kick their asses out" to make room though.

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RE: Feds: Somali-born teen plotted car-bombing - 11/28/2010 10:15:34 PM   
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yo, "popeye", you don't happen to run the truther site http://FederalJack.com/ in Florida, do you?
the administrator there is also nicknamed "Popeye" :)


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RE: Feds: Somali-born teen plotted car-bombing - 11/28/2010 10:33:42 PM   
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yo, "popeye", you don't happen to run the truther site http://FederalJack.com/ in Florida, do you?
the administrator there is also nicknamed "Popeye" :)


No, probably another "popeye". I'm "1250". Hey, isn't RML associated with that site?

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RE: Feds: Somali-born teen plotted car-bombing - 11/28/2010 10:34:37 PM   
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Popeye1250: who is "RML"?


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RE: Feds: Somali-born teen plotted car-bombing - 11/28/2010 10:37:58 PM   
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Popeye1250: who is "RML"?



See post # 45

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RE: Feds: Somali-born teen plotted car-bombing - 11/28/2010 10:39:35 PM   
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hmm "rulemylife"? never heard of him, sorry.
so no, i do not think that the "RML" you mention has anything to do with FederalJack.com (that site is based in florida - is RML in florida? why did you think that?)


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