tiggerspoohbear
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RopeGuy, you have to understand that we're coming from a point where most of us have heard it all, and have been through a lot of bullcrap with various people who've taken us in. We can be jaded, but for the most part it comes from the heart trying to get you to see what we see as a a story where you try to add to what was originally written to make it sound better.
No disrespect intended, but I read your original OP and your subsequent replies and think "been there, done that, wore the t-shirt to shreds" and won't be taken in again by anybody. I wish, but know that because I inherently trust that everyone thinks the way I do, which is to trust and believe that everyone is as honest as I am, I'll be taken in again.
I need to disagree with you Poohbear to a certain point. I see you are trying to be kind here...that's wonderful of you and I know the intro section is supposed to be for that, but Mr. Fake Photographer isn't getting into hot water here because the posters who have responded here are jaded as you seem to feel. It's because he's deliberately trying to mislead people and get something from them for his own purposes. I can honestly say my reply was not to make him see ways to add to his story and make it better as you mentioned...it was to tell him that he should quit with the stories altogether and come clean about what he is doing and what he wants, because it's not cool to misrepresent yourself to get something.
Poohbear, you say no disrespect is intended and it's is wonderful that you yourself feel that way. Disrespect is most certainly intended on my part however, make no mistake about it. What the OP is doing is wrong- it's not consensual if both parties do not know what the truth is and as you know consensuality is at the heart of things here. If he were to start over and say he has a fetish for rope-bound business clothes wearing females and wanted to know if anyone was up for that type of play and also could he perhaps take pictures of them for his use later...well, that would be different wouldn't it? The women would know what he was up to and they could then consent to it, you cannot give true consent to something that is being misrepresented.
It's like giving the homeless person on the corner 10$ because she says she's hungry and needs food but then she goes to buy booze or cigarettes instead. Would you have given the money to her then? Who knows. You would most likely feel taken advantage of though wouldn't you? Because you had given your consent to one scenario, not the other.
Didn't mean to put words in anyone's mouth Lizi. And I certainly don't agree with what he's doing. I know this is either going to get moved or I'm going to get my fingers slapped for this.
Yes, it's the intro section. I don't believe a word he says even if I didn't come across that way. I guess I leaned too much to one side trying to be nice. Believe me, there's no way I'd go to a stranger who claimed to be a photographer, had no portfolio built up (yes, I know you have to start somewhere) and was "working" on getting his website up and running. It all smacks of someone trying to get his rocks off. I'm not wearing rose colored glasses in this case. And as a matter of fact, I am jaded after seeing so many profiles, intros and threads that are by nothing but wankers.
There's still some good guys left out there, I've met a number of them on the boards and a few on the other side too. I've also met the larger majority who don't know their head from a hole in the ground and even if it smacked em in the face, they still wouldn't get it. Hope this straightens some of what I originally wrote.
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