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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/28/2010 5:55:53 PM   
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Well all I know is that we are dependent on China now for food, since walmart actually imports much of their food from there, and the government won't require meat producers to tell us what meat is cloned and what isn't. So basically, the government really doesn't care if we end up starving to death if during a famine, the Chinese feed their people first or we get some genetic mutation 10 years later thanks to cloned meat.

Anyone who supports this government is insane.


You want small government and freeeee unregulated business, until it serves your whine that THIS government is doing nothing about all the terrible terrible things you find scary.
and you think liberals live in a fantasy world
oh you are sweet


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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/28/2010 7:43:36 PM   
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PA, this bill is an amendment to the existing Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act

Glancing through the bill, I don't find where the scope of who is impacted will be broadened.  Several parts specify that only facilities required to register under 21 USC 350d will be affected.  From that regulation...

"The term `facility' includes any factory, warehouse, or establishment (including a factory, warehouse, or establishment of an importer) that manufactures, processes, packs, or holds food. Such term does not include farms; restaurants; other retail food establishments; nonprofit food establishments in which food is prepared for or served directly to the consumer; or fishing vessels (except such vessels engaged in processing as defined in section 123.3(k) of title 21, Code of Federal Regulations)."

Please note the portions I've highlighted above. 

I think most people who have a home garden would fall under the "nonprofit food establishments in which food is prepared for or served directly to the consumer".

You can find a copy of the bill here, and you can follow along with the proposed changes here.  I believe others on here have already given you a link to follow the status of the bill.

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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/28/2010 7:47:59 PM   
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Well all I know is that we are dependent on China now for food


Wow you're an idiot.

We're a major exporter. We lead the world in wheat production.

We alone grow enough food for the entire world--literally. We just throw it out or let it rot.

We grow so much we pay farmer's to limit their crops.

Or turn 'em into corn syrup...


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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/28/2010 8:19:28 PM   
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http://beforeitsnews.com/story/283/571/Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_now_makes_you_a_criminal_for_growing_your_own_GARDEN_R_U_HAPPY_YET.html


??   can anyone confirm this one??




damn dood just painted a target on his back.





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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/29/2010 5:40:14 AM   
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PA, this bill is an amendment to the existing Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act

Glancing through the bill, I don't find where the scope of who is impacted will be broadened.  Several parts specify that only facilities required to register under 21 USC 350d will be affected.  From that regulation...

"The term `facility' includes any factory, warehouse, or establishment (including a factory, warehouse, or establishment of an importer) that manufactures, processes, packs, or holds food. Such term does not include farms; restaurants; other retail food establishments; nonprofit food establishments in which food is prepared for or served directly to the consumer; or fishing vessels (except such vessels engaged in processing as defined in section 123.3(k) of title 21, Code of Federal Regulations)."

Please note the portions I've highlighted above. 

I think most people who have a home garden would fall under the "nonprofit food establishments in which food is prepared for or served directly to the consumer".

You can find a copy of the bill here, and you can follow along with the proposed changes here.  I believe others on here have already given you a link to follow the status of the bill.


Thank you!

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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/29/2010 8:25:11 AM   
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Valley Meats...............Modesto..........China.

No wait, that dont sound right does it ?


It's an easy enough mistake to make.

I think you have them mixed up with Tyson foods, in Springdale China.

What is it about wanting to be cucked that makes them bat chit crazy?


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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/29/2010 11:10:22 AM   
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/opinion/29schlosser.html?src=un&feedurl=http://json8.nytimes.com/pages/opinion/index.jsonp

A better opinion piece than the guy ranting in the video.

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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/29/2010 11:49:24 AM   
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I did not like the video.  I am sorry for that vid... the few seconds I seen was pretty pathetic. 

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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/29/2010 11:51:32 AM   
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-FR-

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/opinion/29schlosser.html?src=un&feedurl=http://json8.nytimes.com/pages/opinion/index.jsonp

A better opinion piece than the guy ranting in the video.




PR.

Think of health care reform.  and now the big boys have waivers.  Same concept.

This law will apply to the little people- and the big boys with an army of lawyers will escape via "waivers".

Compliments of Monsanto!  of course.

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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/29/2010 11:54:25 AM   
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They have cloned meat now?
Why wasn't there an episode of "Big Bang Theory" about this?

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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/29/2010 11:59:36 AM   
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PR.

Think of health care reform.  and now the big boys have waivers.  Same concept.

This law will apply to the little people- and the big boys with an army of lawyers will escape via "waivers".

Compliments of Monsanto!  of course.



If anything the issue would be that the bigger companies are able to afford the new safety procedures better than the little guys, not that they're exempt.


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They have cloned meat now?
Why wasn't there an episode of "Big Bang Theory" about this?


They have genetically altered salmon too. They are called "frankenfish" lol

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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/29/2010 12:03:00 PM   
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They have cloned meat now?
Why wasn't there an episode of "Big Bang Theory" about this?


I expect Sheldon to spout about it very very soon
I adore Sheldon
he gives me a <3 on


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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/29/2010 12:59:01 PM   
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PR.

Think of health care reform.  and now the big boys have waivers.  Same concept.

This law will apply to the little people- and the big boys with an army of lawyers will escape via "waivers".

Compliments of Monsanto!  of course.



If anything the issue would be that the bigger companies are able to afford the new safety procedures better than the little guys, not that they're exempt.


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They have cloned meat now?
Why wasn't there an episode of "Big Bang Theory" about this?


They have genetically altered salmon too. They are called "frankenfish" lol



http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/revealed-stimulus-helps-fund-nations-biggest-polluter/

here we go.  BP can afford the regs but they got exempted.  So your theory that they can afford it-  .,.. well- look at the bottom line.

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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/29/2010 1:01:08 PM   
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I was speaking specifically about the Senate bill being discussed in this thread, not making a generalized statement.

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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/29/2010 1:06:18 PM   
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Eli., the same premise still applies. 

Law making is incredibly sloppy. I cant think of too many that were done right in the past 10 years.. especially when they are rushed.  Congress does not write them, or even READ THEM, and congress is EXEMPT from the laws they make.

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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/29/2010 1:12:17 PM   
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If the Lord Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon creation, I should have recommended something simpler.


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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/29/2010 1:38:30 PM   
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They have cloned meat now?
Why wasn't there an episode of "Big Bang Theory" about this?

Wy would anyone clone meat? That would require much more work and money than simple artifial insemination and that is how most beef cattle are produced right now.

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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/29/2010 3:11:55 PM   
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I was wondering that meself, to be honest.
(You'll note cuckyboy hasn't deigned to reply yet...)

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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/29/2010 3:18:50 PM   
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Congress does not write them, or even READ THEM, and congress is EXEMPT from the laws they make.



Uhhhhh.............so who writes them?

And while we are at it, would you like to explain to me what laws our Congressmen/women and Senators are exempt from?

It would seem to me enough of them have been in legal trouble in the past few years to debunk that notion.






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RE: Senate_Bill_S_510_PASSED_74_to_25,_The_Government_n... - 11/29/2010 3:39:29 PM   
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RML-   who knows?   We peons cant possibly ever be as smart of congress...   and WHO does write these bills? 

Lobbyists do.
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The earliest votes on $510 (which is, after all, about money, not food and certainly not freedom) will probably not come before 9 PM tonignt although the Senate schedule, which showed the Monday session starting at 9:30 AM and taking up S.510 after "morning business" now shows the morning session postponed until 2 PM -- this means lots of "back-room" wheeling and dealing as the Bigs try to rescue their fake "food safety" bill from our growing Push Back!

Watch the action here: http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2.aspx

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