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WolfyMontgomery -> RE: Daddy Dom, Master, Dom Which R U and why? (12/2/2010 6:50:28 PM)

Agreed

Though I do think that people who are 'wired' for a kinky relationship can't always find the level of communication/attachment that they want in a vanilla relationship. IE Can't feel as deep/intimate for them.
Just like how vanilla people often can't find the level of communication/attachment that they want if they were ever in a kinky relationship - they can't function in that way and thus can't make the same connection.

So someone like me - who is apparently wired for a D/s or M/s relationship - cannot find the depth of attachment and communication in a vanilla relationship, which is what makes my relationship with Master so profound, different, and better.

Sorta like how... say a very logical analytical person probably couldn't find the same level of connection with a wishy-washy-head-in-the-clouds dreamer type person. They think differently.




leadership527 -> RE: Daddy Dom, Master, Dom Which R U and why? (12/2/2010 6:58:12 PM)

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which is what makes my relationship with Master so profound, different, and better.

I think so long as we are talking better for you then everyone is way behind that thought. It's when someone starts making it sound like better in general that the rest of us start to laugh.




WolfyMontgomery -> RE: Daddy Dom, Master, Dom Which R U and why? (12/2/2010 7:13:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: leadership527

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which is what makes my relationship with Master so profound, different, and better.

I think so long as we are talking better for you then everyone is way behind that thought. It's when someone starts making it sound like better in general that the rest of us start to laugh.


That was exactly how I was talking about it - better for me, because I'm wired that way to find that connection in that way. I probably couldn't find the same level of connection personally with a different kind of relationship. I'm wired this way and so when I found Master it was sorta like "WOAH, now this is new and SOO much better." - someone who isn't wired the same way as me probably couldn't have that same reaction, because it probably wouldn't be better. But they still WOULD find that sort of connection and have that reaction when they find/have the relationship that they are wired for.

Which is what I was saying - if someone is personally wired to find a connection one way, they probably aren't going to find that same deepness in a relationship of a different kind.




NuevaVida -> RE: Daddy Dom, Master, Dom Which R U and why? (12/2/2010 8:01:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I would prefer he not "choose" a type, but decide to be authentic and true to who he is, regardless of a label.  I would like this part of him to be strong enough not to be influenced by the type of submissive he is with, but to be ingrained in his being.



This.

My owner is my Daddy my Master, my Keeper....and whatever other label can be slapped on it.  He is all things wrapped into one being, just as I am many things to him.

We bring all facets of each others personalities out in each other.  He doesn't need a specific "type" of slave to be a specific "type" of master.  He's just who he is, as I am who I am, and all our various personality traits just mesh with each other.




HisManegirl -> RE: Daddy Dom, Master, Dom Which R U and why? (12/2/2010 8:50:56 PM)

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Katylied

Actually people in vanilla relationships also communicate at high levels. You may be shocked to know that they also have long and healthy relationships. Being kinky isn't that special.


I said many people not all, I know a lot of my vanilla male and female friends are not interested in sex, due to boredom with their partner. They have told me they don't enjoy it and would rather not bother at all. They have also told me they just don"t even talk about it with their partners. The communication that is stressed in everything I read regarding BDSM I believe enhances the experience. Variety adds to your sex life and it seems to me there are so many more avenues to experience variety in the Lifestyle compared to vanilla sex.

No I'm not shocked that some vanilla people have long healthy relationships, but many do not due to lack of communication and fear of voicing their desires and being judged. So they just settle.

As I'm sure there are many people in BDSM relationships who desire longer healthier relationships, but don't have them- which is why they are looking on here.

"Special" is another personal opinion and I choose to see my lifestyle as special.




mbes -> RE: Daddy Dom, Master, Dom Which R U and why? (12/2/2010 9:08:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HisManegirl

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Katylied

Actually people in vanilla relationships also communicate at high levels. You may be shocked to know that they also have long and healthy relationships. Being kinky isn't that special.


I said many people not all, I know a lot of my vanilla male and female friends are not interested in sex, due to boredom with their partner. They have told me they don't enjoy it and would rather not bother at all. They have also told me they just don"t even talk about it with their partners. The communication that is stressed in everything I read regarding BDSM I believe enhances the experience. Variety adds to your sex life and it seems to me there are so many more avenues to experience variety in the Lifestyle compared to vanilla sex.
No I'm not shocked that some vanilla people have long healthy relationships, but many do not due to lack of communication and fear of voicing their desires and being judged. So they just settle.
As I'm sure there are many people in BDSM relationships who desire longer healthier relationships, but don't have them- which is why they are looking on here.
"Special" is another personal opinion and I choose to see my lifestyle as special.


The fact that your friends don't communicate is most likely more to blame for their problems than any special- or unspecialness in their chosen interactions. Have you recommended that they just TALK to each other? Like I tell my UMs, YOU can apply peer pressure too! [:)]




HisManegirl -> RE: Daddy Dom, Master, Dom Which R U and why? (12/2/2010 9:42:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HisManegirl

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Katylied

Actually people in vanilla relationships also communicate at high levels. You may be shocked to know that they also have long and healthy relationships. Being kinky isn't that special.


I said many people not all, I know a lot of my vanilla male and female friends are not interested in sex, due to boredom with their partner. They have told me they don't enjoy it and would rather not bother at all. They have also told me they just don"t even talk about it with their partners. The communication that is stressed in everything I read regarding BDSM I believe enhances the experience. Variety adds to your sex life and it seems to me there are so many more avenues to experience variety in the Lifestyle compared to vanilla sex.
No I'm not shocked that some vanilla people have long healthy relationships, but many do not due to lack of communication and fear of voicing their desires and being judged. So they just settle.
As I'm sure there are many people in BDSM relationships who desire longer healthier relationships, but don't have them- which is why they are looking on here.
"Special" is another personal opinion and I choose to see my lifestyle as special.


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mbes
The fact that your friends don't communicate is most likely more to blame for their problems than any special- or unspecialness in their chosen interactions. Have you recommended that they just TALK to each other? Like I tell my UMs, YOU can apply peer pressure too!


My intention wasn't to say they needed fixing, their relationships just provide a wonderful contrast for me. I was just saying that I believe the communication encouraged in all the reading I have done enhances the BDSM experience, and that the variety is an added benefit to me, just my humble opinion. I didn't say their relationships were special or unspecial, Katylied said being kinky isn't that special and I said I choose to see my lifestyle as special .




IronBear -> RE: Daddy Dom, Master, Dom Which R U and why? (12/3/2010 5:40:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: HisManegirl

i am a sub and i am very new to the lifestyle. my Dom is a Daddy Dom which i believe is a gentler Dom compared to the other types I have read about. i am asking this question because I admit I could be wrong and would like to understand what causes a man to choose to be a Daddy Dom VS a Master or a Dom. i would also like to know if Doms often change their preference for their role or may have more than one slave or sub that they treat differently under different roles. Thank You!


I agree with Hillwilliam here except I am an ex-Gorean and still hold with many of the Gorean tenets.

I am first and foremost a Dominant by nature and preference and a sadist by inclination then I'm a perfectionist and hard assed one at that, who believes strongly in hierarchical layers in my home and a disciplinarian regarding in good manners. Whilst I may be an easy going chap most of the time who will meet you half way and may oft be happy so seek compromises, in my home and the way it works it is my way (and Neets's) or the highway.

By preference I seek M/s (Master/slave) relationships rather than just have a variety of possibly meaningless relationships with part time subs. I refer to myself as a Master for a variety of reasons: vis. I am the Master of various forms of Combat Arts both Western and Asian, I am the Master of my boat and aircraft. I am recognized as a Master Calligrapher and Illuminator (9th C Irish)and of course academically I hold a Masters degree in Psychology; finally, I am the Master of Bruin Cottage (A Victorian Home).

Unless a girl or boy is collared to my home or to me as a personal slave, I expect no one else to refer to me as Master for aye I am a Master but not that person's Master.




fellowtraveler -> RE: Daddy Dom, Master, Dom Which R U and why? (12/3/2010 6:51:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: HisManegirl

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Katylied

Actually people in vanilla relationships also communicate at high levels. You may be shocked to know that they also have long and healthy relationships. Being kinky isn't that special.


I said many people not all, I know a lot of my vanilla male and female friends are not interested in sex, due to boredom with their partner. They have told me they don't enjoy it and would rather not bother at all. They have also told me they just don"t even talk about it with their partners. The communication that is stressed in everything I read regarding BDSM I believe enhances the experience. Variety adds to your sex life and it seems to me there are so many more avenues to experience variety in the Lifestyle compared to vanilla sex.

No I'm not shocked that some vanilla people have long healthy relationships, but many do not due to lack of communication and fear of voicing their desires and being judged. So they just settle.

As I'm sure there are many people in BDSM relationships who desire longer healthier relationships, but don't have them- which is why they are looking on here.

"Special" is another personal opinion and I choose to see my lifestyle as special.




May I first point out that I have read all of your posts on this thread and find you to be amazingly insightful and brilliant. Your dominant (whether daddy-do, gorean master or sadist) is very fortunate to have found someone so bright to work with.

I have a little to add to your first question, at least as it pertains to me. For me, the difference between a "daddy-dom" or a sadist or any of the other things that dominant men call themselves and submissive women (and sometimes men) call them, is the nature of the relationship. I am not sure where I fit in the spectrum. Honestly, I don't care for any of the monikers. I would probably fall under the daddy-dom heading, but I have no interest in having a sexual relationship with my daughter (if I had one). I also would have no interest in giving a daughter opportunities to delve deeper and deeper into her obedience to me. The goal is actually the opposite, as a parent, one's goal is to ultimately teach their children to be independent and able to face the world on their own. As a dominant, my goal is to create a world for my submissive where she becomes increasingly reliant on my reality. I make that world safe and secure for her and I help her to retreat deeper and deeper into it. I am not "parenting" her. The goal is very different. Further, a parent gives and gives to his childrfen. As a dominant I give to my submissive, but I take too. I see little correlation between a daddy (father) and a dominant actually.

What I am is a dominant man. Whether that dominance takes the form of sadist, nurturer, lover, friend, husband, doctor, teacher, partner, tormenter, servant, inquisitor or supporter depends on my perspective of the needs of the relationship and my submissive at a given time. What makes me the dominant and her the submissive is the fact that I will make the decision and she will live with it. No, scratch that, she will embrace it and it will become her reality. At the very least she will endeavor to embrace it and make it her reality.

I have had four relationships in my life. All of them have been D/s relationships, even before I knew what a D/s relationship was. What we did and how we did it (sexually, socially and personally) was different in all of them. In a couple I was more sadistic and in a couple I was more nurturing, depending on the needs of the woman I was with. So, what "type" of dominant I am is a product of the relationship. First I choose the submissive (based on a lot of criteria that have little to do with D/s) and then I create the world and environment that that relationship will thrive in. Sadly, where I have failed in the past, it has been because I did not remain true to that dynamic.... but thats another thread.





HisManegirl -> RE: Daddy Dom, Master, Dom Which R U and why? (12/3/2010 9:54:22 AM)

Thank you Fellowtraveler and everyone else who commented on this thread. I appreciate all the info as well as the contrasts some of you showed me. One of the wonderful things about differing opinions is that it helps ME to develop greater clarity regarding how I feel and how I choose to express myself to others. For ME the purpose of a thread is to learn and get a broader understanding of the lifestyle ~ don't want anyone to think I'm generalizing here ~ LOL so thank you all.




Dnomyar -> RE: Daddy Dom, Master, Dom Which R U and why? (12/9/2010 8:28:00 PM)

Depends on the sub/slave that im with. Makes no difference if they are male/ female. I just go with the flow. No need to be any other way.




sunshinemiss -> RE: Daddy Dom, Master, Dom Which R U and why? (12/11/2010 7:18:30 AM)

Because I don't feel like dealing with the quote thingy, I'm just gonna change the color...
 
Now, where to begin?  

ORIGINAL: HisManegirl

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Katylied

Actually people in vanilla relationships also communicate at high levels. You may be shocked to know that they also have long and healthy relationships. Being kinky isn't that special.


I said many people not all, I know a lot of my vanilla male and female friends are not interested in sex, due to boredom with their partner. They have told me they don't enjoy it and would rather not bother at all. They have also told me they just don"t even talk about it with their partners.

You have just described several "lifestyle" couples I know. 

The communication that is stressed in everything I read regarding BDSM I believe enhances the experience.

I don't know any relationship where communication is not stressed.  And let's not even begin with counseling!  (maybe the military, but I'm not sure)

Variety adds to your sex life and it seems to me there are so many more avenues to experience variety in the Lifestyle compared to vanilla sex.

That is just sad.  I've had amazing, wonderfully varied vanilla.  The thing is - it's about the people, not about the positions.  Boring people have boring sex.  Interesting people have interesting sex.  At least that's been my experience.  I would be happy to continue researching that.  (I'm a geek and want to find the qualitative and quantitative truth at every turn, doncha know!  Suffering for science, that's me!)

No I'm not shocked that some vanilla people have long healthy relationships, but many do not due to lack of communication and fear of voicing their desires and being judged. So they just settle. 

This is just utter nonsense to be applied to "vanillas", not to mention bigotry.  The same nonsense can be said about any group.

As I'm sure there are many people in BDSM relationships who desire longer healthier relationships, but don't have them- which is why they are looking on here.

Is that why we are all here?  I can hear the agendas being changed all over the world.  

"Special" is another personal opinion and I choose to see my lifestyle as special. 

I would venture to say that what is special is you rather than some label.  Just a thought.
 
best,
sunshine




mjustinian -> RE: Daddy Dom, Master, Dom Which R U and why? (12/13/2010 11:48:25 AM)

I am Dominant, by that I can be a Daddy if I want or a strict Master. I like to be able to be what I want when I want.




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