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The objectification dynamic. - 4/29/2006 11:15:32 AM

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How do you view this-in your understanding.

Let's talk about pros and cons-where it's taken you,or not.

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RE: The objectification dynamic. - 4/29/2006 11:21:51 AM

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Yum yum objectification... exploitation, debasement, humiliation ...

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RE: The objectification dynamic. - 4/29/2006 11:22:31 AM

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Smiles,and more............

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RE: The objectification dynamic. - 4/29/2006 11:44:29 AM

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Don't know why but it just spins my wheels. Been able to do whatever I want with someone. Stand in the corner, sit down, sit up, crawl on all fours, bark like a dog, mince like a fairy, neigh like a horse, make like a table, or my personal favourite having them dress in a kangeroo suit while they bounce around the room yelling "I'm a roo! I'm a roo!".

I think Ebony said it best on a thread the other day where she said as a dom she has utmost respect for her slaves for without them she wouldn't have the freedom to be who she wants to be. I feel exactly the same way... it's liberating to find someone who wants objectification and debasement ...it feeds the inner beast I guess, the one thats not allowed to come out and play in vanilla land.

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RE: The objectification dynamic. - 4/29/2006 11:48:51 AM

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I've used it in both fun and serious ways-but mostly for fun.

What's the good of having a slave if they can't share in delighting you with some mutual silliness? Therein lies a truly lovely mutual freedom.

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RE: The objectification dynamic. - 4/29/2006 11:01:27 PM

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Objectification...it grabs me from the inside and splays me open, emotionally. The harsher it is, the closer I feel to him. Maybe it's a case of emotional masochism, if such a thing exists. I thrive on it....

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RE: The objectification dynamic. - 4/29/2006 11:10:00 PM

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Some of the things I have done in this might seem pretty harsh to many. But there is an interesting thing that comes from it.

Not so much a losing of self-but a temporary losing of the PART of the self that constantly self criticizes............that feels guilt,shame...............the very reduction, in the intimate face of one who accepts you-even so............liberating.............

And when you come back from that space,the echos are still there..................reverberating............

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RE: The objectification dynamic. - 4/29/2006 11:16:37 PM

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It is most amazing. Yes, I have heard all the ways in which my cruel, evil Master is so abusive to me...

The thing is, we came upon this almost by accident; by a name which he referred me to that caused a most interesting response. Since then I have been torn open with words, demands on me, and what some might consider some rather vile actions inflicted on me. And it exposes my core being, drawing me ever nearer. I wouldn't say I lose part of self, rather part of self - the hidden self - emerges and comes to life.

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RE: The objectification dynamic. - 4/29/2006 11:52:48 PM

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I look back over the journey I have taken from the past to now, and smile at times-others I frown a bit. But times like these always bring a smile........Times I had girls in the palm of my hand,and they'd do anything-try to be anything-just to get that breath of chill air from the abysss....................

Thing is,she wasn't going there on her own. She had company,and closer ,so much closer than you might think.

And what was pain,some suffering,humiliation.............Gibrahn said it so eloquently........."Your pain is the breaking of the shell that encloses your understanding. Even as the stone of the fruit must break, that its heart may stand in the sun, so must you know pain."

But pain alone,won't break that shell-it's armour is stronger than that. What else will get inside,open a chink in it? Makes you ,animal.

Raw meat,writhing...............finding the old sources,drinking from the springs that flow down deep-where the sun never reaches...........When you peel away the masks and layers that polite society imposes..........the veils,ripped asunder.....

And all that remains is the you,and that cold wind caresses the bare bones of your soul........feel the icy hand that gives and takes.............and all you are,all you can be...is NOW.

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RE: The objectification dynamic. - 4/30/2006 12:27:26 AM

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When you're in the dark and want to read, what is more useful than light? When you want soup, a bowl and spoon are what you need. This things provide service with substance. They are 'needful' things. To be of service, to be of use .. of what ever measure .. frees me from the constraints of gravity and the weight of my own humanity.

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RE: The objectification dynamic. - 4/30/2006 12:48:13 AM

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Loss of self in focus on another...........yes,different ,but the same........

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RE: The objectification dynamic. - 4/30/2006 1:01:08 AM

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A girl lies on a carpet...........feels the nap on her bare skin.....the hard metal of the steel anklet......warmed by her flesh,rigid..........uncompromising,an extension of her Master....Shifts, the wall at her back........

Pitch blackness in a closed room..the door of which the chain now prevents her from reaching. Immovable chin clinks, as she stretches. all is quiet,her senses...strain for some sign...however small.........

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RE: The objectification dynamic. - 4/30/2006 6:52:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: Reasonable

How do you view this-in your understanding.

Let's talk about pros and cons-where it's taken you,or not.

"aloft in abasement"........from a poem I wrote

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RE: The objectification dynamic. - 4/30/2006 7:13:04 AM

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objectification hasn't done much for me in the past, when i have tried it neither of us seemed to "get" anything from the experience, although after reading all of your posts and positive experiences with it, perhaps i missed something and should try it again! thanks for posting Reasonable!

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RE: The objectification dynamic. - 4/30/2006 7:35:14 AM

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I love it. Truly, utterly, completely love it. If I had a penis, it would be that instant hard on--just thinking about it, dreaming about it.

Mmmm. :)

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RE: The objectification dynamic. - 4/30/2006 9:52:06 AM

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Hmm, I don’t know anything about this, but reading this thread has my curiosity up. I would like to learn more and will pay attention to this thread and perhaps research it out.
Where is Lucky Albatross with all those links of hers????

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RE: The objectification dynamic. - 4/30/2006 10:15:43 AM

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A few weeks back we entertained a couple who had objectification as the primary focus of their relationship dynamic. It was a very interesting to observe it in use full time. It sometimes enters into our dynamic, but never yet over an extended period of time or at the level we observed. The slave was treated as an item, a 'thing' to be used as the Master saw fit. she was never included in the conversation, only talked to or about. Digressing from the position assigned for use, be it a table, a footstool, drink holder, ashtray, whatever; resulted in punishment. she was very well trained.

Objectification is a total surrender, not only of yourself buy of your "humanity". It's freeing, in that you have no responsibility for your actions, therefore you can't feel guilty doing something humiliating or contrary to your upbringing, or religious background. It requires an attentive Master who must take on the responsibility of the slave not loosing themselves entirely, unless that's an agreed upon goal.

Interestingly enough, they were not together 24/7, but maintained this dynamic for the time they are together. We very much enjoyed each other's company. We look forward to being with them again.

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RE: The objectification dynamic. - 4/30/2006 10:21:27 AM

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one simple word......YES!!!!

Allow me to correct myself.....two words....YES PLEASE!!

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RE: The objectification dynamic. - 4/30/2006 11:24:10 AM

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Objectification is a total surrender, not only of yourself buy of your "humanity".

Amen to that. As well as to being freed from guilt or emotional turmoil. Whatever he uses me as, during objectification, I am in service to him, doing as he wishes and instructs. Nothing but joy can come from that. And yes, i can indeed understand how this could take place when the two do not live together. The bond that exists between two spririts can exist whether they share a home or not.

It must have been an amazing thing to witness.

With Master and I, the dynamic shifts according to his desire at the time. Always true to my spirit, I am what he wants me to be at any given time. While I am always his object in that I am property, he may wish to enjoy the little girl, the beast, the tool, the slut, the object, when he so chooses. Each dynamic makes up who I am. He calls to the surface that which he wishes to enjoy at the time.

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RE: The objectification dynamic. - 4/30/2006 11:47:03 AM

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One of the things that I enjoy the most about this, is the huge option of choices and tools it provides a Top to play with.

Things tend not to get boring.........in other words,you aren't just stuck with being, or doing, "the same old thing" all of the time.(or even the same old person-for that matter)

We slip the bonds of the mundane-and find the sublime.

How could you not enjoy that?

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