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Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/9/2010 9:38:05 PM   
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Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill

Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid ripped into what he described as Republican obstructionism.

"Republicans denied adequate health care to the heroes who developed illnesses from rushing into burning buildings on 9/11," Reid said. "Yet they will stop at nothing to give tax breaks to millionaires and CEOs, even though they will explode our deficit and fail to create jobs.

"That tells you everything you need to know about their priorities," he said.

http://www.wkrg.com/environmental/article/senate-republicans-block-9-11-health-bill/1203208/Dec-09-2010_6-45-pm/

Senate Republicans on Thursday blocked a bill that would provide medical care for firefighters and other responders to the September 11, 2001, attacks who developed illnesses from breathing toxic, dust-filled air.





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RE: Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/9/2010 9:41:07 PM   
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RE: Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/9/2010 9:52:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think it's insanely inhumane.   I don't think this should even be up for discussion.   I believe 9/11 responders out to be provided for to whatever extent they need, while alive, and their families to some extent thereafter.     M

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RE: Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/9/2010 11:18:41 PM   
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RE: Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/10/2010 2:27:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		You guys talk, like your surprised? The GOP milked 9/11 for every drop it could. The moment it was no longer profittable for them, they stopped. They used 9/11 for so many excuses, it would be funny if it weren't for terrible reasons. 9/11 was using to get us in to Iraq, sign off the Patriot Act, and even create conditions of hatred towards both fellow Americans and immigrants. The Republican Party (and conservatives at large), are not known for being human.

The moment, the GOP has to help out the real heroes (which isn't them), they were against it. The Republicans in this country are truely the most selfish, ignorant and often racist people, I've ever met. If they aren't getting something out of the deal, they are against it. They are the people that will walk up to a Salvation Army person an ask "If I give $0.25, will you give me back $0.50?" and expect a serious answer. The concept of 'being human' is entirely lost on this group of people.


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RE: Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/10/2010 2:32:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am not too surprised by Repukelicans and neo-conservatives.It just dosen't surprise me anymore just how low they are willing to go.Maybe they can get low enough to rot in hell.They are some of the most racist biggot's I have come around.Greedy,selfish,gutless coward's.

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RE: Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/10/2010 5:04:06 AM   
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I am not too surprised by Repukelicans and neo-conservatives.It just dosen't surprise me anymore just how low they are willing to go.Maybe they can get low enough to rot in hell.They are some of the most racist biggot's I have come around.Greedy,selfish,gutless coward's.


Well, I would comment on this, but I know you really don't mean to insult republicans. You just can't help yourself. Have you considered seeing a professional about that?

As to the OP....sounds like politics as usual. Both side use voting as a means of getting the other guy to do what they want. Nothing new but it does make me wonder if they will be able to get any thing done.


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RE: Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/10/2010 6:01:22 AM   
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Democrats insist on spending more money that we don't have to provide medical expenses that NY State already pays for....But that headline wouldn't bring out the hand wringing lefties.

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RE: Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/10/2010 6:44:20 AM   
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As to the OP....sounds like politics as usual. Both side use voting as a means of getting the other guy to do what they want. Nothing new but it does make me wonder if they will be able to get any thing done.



No, it's not both sides.

This legislation should have passed unanimously.

This is the reason it did not, from the article:

Republicans have vowed to block any legislation, other than bills to fund the U.S. government, until an impasse is resolved over extending expiring tax cuts for virtually all taxpayers, including the wealthiest Americans.

Now justify that to me.

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RE: Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/10/2010 7:24:48 AM   
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The article could have been titled...

Democrats insist on spending more money that we don't have to provide medical expenses that NY State already pays for....But that headline wouldn't bring out the hand wringing lefties.



Write a letter to this guy's family and tell them that:

The most recent death blamed on Ground Zero exposure was retired NYPD detective Kevin Czartoryski, 46, who died last week after a battle with lung disease.

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RE: Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/10/2010 7:38:16 AM   
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This has been done before. Last time this issue appeared here my problem with it was the amount. Not the idea, the amount of money.

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RE: Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/10/2010 8:41:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

As to the OP....sounds like politics as usual. Both side use voting as a means of getting the other guy to do what they want. Nothing new but it does make me wonder if they will be able to get any thing done.



No, it's not both sides.

This legislation should have passed unanimously.

This is the reason it did not, from the article:

Republicans have vowed to block any legislation, other than bills to fund the U.S. government, until an impasse is resolved over extending expiring tax cuts for virtually all taxpayers, including the wealthiest Americans.

Now justify that to me.



Why would I try to justify something I think is wrong? I said it was politics as usual . I never said I thought it was a good plan. And yes, both sides have been playing this trick for as long as I can remember. Like I said, nothing new.


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RE: Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/10/2010 10:38:34 AM   
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This has been done before. Last time this issue appeared here my problem with it was the amount. Not the idea, the amount of money.

T


The $7.4 billion is spread out over ten years.

Although the amounts funded per year will vary, $740 million on average per year is a pretty negligible amount when you consider this year's budget is at $3.55 trillion.


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RE: Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/10/2010 10:45:52 AM   
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RE: Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/10/2010 10:49:02 AM   
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Why would I try to justify something I think is wrong? I said it was politics as usual . I never said I thought it was a good plan. And yes, both sides have been playing this trick for as long as I can remember. Like I said, nothing new.



You say it is wrong but go on to rationalize it as both sides doing it.

There is no moral equivalency here.

The GOP is holding hostage the sick and dying so they can retain a tax break for the wealthiest 2% of the population.

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RE: Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/10/2010 10:56:43 AM   
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What part of "nothings happening until the tax issue is settled" dont the Dems understand?


That's what I love about conservative Republicans like you Willbeur, you just really don't give a shit as long as your ideological goals are satisfied.

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RE: Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/10/2010 2:27:20 PM   
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RE: Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/10/2010 9:14:38 PM   
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What part of "nothings happening until the tax issue is settled" dont the Dems understand?


Oh, i do believe the Dems understand every bit of it. Do the Republicans?

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RE: Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/10/2010 10:25:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't understand why the dems did not pass this bill while they held the Presidency and a filibuster proof Majority in both houses.

Apperantly this was not important to them untill now, when they can play politics with it.


Seriously, if you dems care so much, why wasn't this passed years ago?

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RE: Senate Republicans block 9/11 health bill - 12/10/2010 11:15:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		"The $7.4 billion is spread out over ten years.

Although the amounts funded per year will vary, $740 million on average per year is a pretty negligible amount when you consider this year's budget is at $3.55 trillion. "

Two "minor" problems with that. (that's only the math part)

1. Just how many people are to be recipients of this money and in what amount ? How much of it is going to go for "administrative costs" for example ?

2. If 740 people are eligible for the funds, that is a million bucks a year each. How many people worked on that building ? I think the money is going to largely sit there and be forgotten about like so many other "lost" dollars. Billions that can't even be found in every CAFR in the country.

The third minor problem is if they were keeping the general public away when those buildings were being worked on, one would assume that those who were allowed to work on the buildings were properly equipped, and ready to deal with an environment about which they had been informed. If not they were either incompetent or NOT INFORMED. Could this be hush money ?

I've been through all this before but rather than be an ass I decided to typo it out again. So be nice or fuck you OK ?

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