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Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm hand? - 4/29/2006 6:07:11 PM   
MistyMenthal


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How do You keep a firm hand in Your Bdsm Relationships
with Your Subs/Slaves?
 
You shouldn't have to,
but if You do, what do You use to keep them in Line!
What works for You?
 
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"Yes I Said It!"

 
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RE: Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm ... - 4/29/2006 6:12:30 PM   
Reasonable


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Status: offline 		The path of least resistance- it varies so much by individual, that I could not even begin to list the ways.

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RE: Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm ... - 4/29/2006 6:16:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Reasonable

The path of least resistance- it varies so much by individual, that I could not even begin to list the ways.

I would agree with that besides if I have to keep a firm hand at all times and constantly monitor a boy there becomes a point where it's just not worth it any more. The effort that I put in starts to override any of the benefits.

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RE: Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm ... - 4/29/2006 6:31:45 PM   
Reasonable


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Status: offline 		Nodding I have a few "passive" methodolgies I used to use......but I'd really not like this to turn into a flame fest,with myself as the main attraction in the circus....mail me privately if you would like to know.

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RE: Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm ... - 4/29/2006 6:35:28 PM   
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You shouldn't have to,
but if You do, what do You use to keep them in Line!
What works for You?
 


 

He shouldn't have to and he doesn't. I'm naturally well behaved, practically perfect in every way, the sparkling gem in the crown jewel of outstanding behavior, the epitome of subservient and humble demeanor, the.. um.. er .. well, so on and so forth. ;) Celeste 


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Rock, paper, scissors."

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RE: Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm ... - 4/29/2006 6:39:02 PM   
Jasmyn


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Status: offline 		It is good to keep a firm hand... boundaries and consequences ...discipline if need be ...  spare the rod, spoil the sub and all that jazz.  If a sub is aching to feel a hand or cane in punishment...creating an impossible task or asking them to fullfill a difficult request, especially if the sub craves discipline because of stress and turmoil, creating a reason to be punished that isn't simply role play.   And discipline for when a sub is acting out never given ...give them a task to focus on after politely suggesting they pull their heads in quick smart. ..then refer to the above ... if there acting out is because they are craving an opportunity to attone and opportunity to be taken in hand needing a raw primal emotional release then by all means physically discipline.  If acting out to 'test' or 'challenge' lay out the ultimatum... your here, the door is there... make their choice. 

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RE: Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm ... - 4/29/2006 6:39:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Reasonable

The path of least resistance- it varies so much by individual, that I could not even begin to list the ways.


It all comes from this ... if the submissive is so resistant that you have to work at it  -- outside of moments of intentional challenge, I mean -- you should send them away until they grow up and are certain they want submission and your dominance.

And if someone likes this sort of continual resistance in even the simplest things, wouldn't it be easier to just adopt a teenager?

JW

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RE: Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm ... - 4/29/2006 6:47:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Preachin to the choir here,more than one ass has hit the curb for bratting in my day.

But thank ye for the input,in any case,

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RE: Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm ... - 4/29/2006 6:52:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		well misty, I hope in the future if my "One" wants to keep his "hand firm" he will exercise it on my backside...smiles (yes I am a bit of a brat, but not incorrigible..LOL).

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RE: Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm ... - 4/29/2006 6:55:40 PM   
Jasmyn


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Status: offline 		A wise dom once said on these boards that dominance is not the opposite of submission and vice versa ... rather the 'opposites' were indecision for dominance and stubborness for submission...have always thought this to be most true, especially when people talk of 'bratty subs'.

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RE: Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm ... - 4/29/2006 6:58:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		You dont..... submission is a gift freely given. Disobeident slaves have withdrawn the gift and should be dismissed summarily....

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RE: Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm ... - 4/29/2006 7:01:05 PM   
juliaoceania


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jasmyn

A wise dom once said on these boards that dominance is not the opposite of submission and vice versa ... rather the 'opposites' were indecision for dominance and stubborness for submission...have always thought this to be most true, especially when people talk of 'bratty subs'.


actually I was joking, i am not really a brat, I am not a sam, and I have no interest in becoming one. I also do not need a "firm" hand because my submissiveness is rooted in my desire to please and give to my future dominant, much the way I gave to my former one....

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RE: Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm ... - 4/29/2006 7:10:58 PM   
Jasmyn


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Status: offline 		Julia, to be fair the comment was in a thread about dominants switching and submissives struggling with the concept of their dom in a subservient role to someone else.  In particular one guy's struggle with his sub who entered into the relationship knowing full well the dom had expressed an interest in bottoming but whenever he raised the subject she curtailed it happening.  The general gist of the thread was for dominants to be dominant.

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RE: Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm ... - 4/29/2006 7:13:18 PM   
IronBear


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I remember anRSM once telling a bunch of recruits to the battalion "Until I read you Military Law, ignorance is an acceptable excuse.. Now I have read you Military Law, IGNORANCE IS NO EXCUSE!"


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RE: Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm ... - 4/29/2006 7:14:50 PM   
Reasonable


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Girl wants to rule the nest,she can go get a sub,sure as hell doesn't need me for one-I'm lousy at it.

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RE: Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm ... - 4/29/2006 7:18:57 PM   
Jasmyn


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Status: offline 		Cast the subinatrix out! lol

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"To learn the art of submission a slave must first give up the desires that drew him to submission in the first place." Mistress Jasmyn Jan 2005.


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RE: Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm ... - 4/29/2006 7:20:31 PM   
Proprietrix


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10 pages, typed, double-spaced, 1 inch margins, 10 point font, references cited, no internet resources.



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RE: Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm ... - 4/29/2006 9:13:04 PM   
catize


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

quote:


 
You shouldn't have to,
but if You do, what do You use to keep them in Line!
What works for You?
 


 

He shouldn't have to and he doesn't. I'm naturally well behaved, practically perfect in every way, the sparkling gem in the crown jewel of outstanding behavior, the epitome of subservient and humble demeanor, the.. um.. er .. well, so on and so forth. ;) Celeste 


LOL, but are you a mind reader?

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RE: Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm ... - 4/29/2006 9:26:03 PM   
Reasonable


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(dammit,this thing didn't work-and it left stains in my bathtub-I'll SUE!!!!)

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RE: Masters/Mistresses/Switches How do You keep a firm ... - 4/29/2006 9:32:45 PM   
BitaTruble


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LOL, but are you a mind reader?


hehehe Not a reliable one, but I don't have to be with Himself. I know his expectations of what my behavior should be and I take it from there. In all fairness though, I've been with him for 10 years.. so if I didn't know by now, it would only be because I haven't been paying proper attention.

Celeste

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"Oh, so it's just like
Rock, paper, scissors."

He laughed. "You are the wisest woman I know."


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