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DarkSteven -> Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 3:27:04 AM)

Irina Sendler.

I got an email about her and it sounded ridiculous.  So I checked it on Snopes and it's true.

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There recently was a death of a 98 year-old lady named Irena. During WWII, Irena,
got  permission to work in the Warsaw Ghetto, as a Plumbing/Sewer
specialist. She had an  'ulterior motive' ..... She KNEW what the
Nazi's plans were for the Jews, (being German..) Irena smuggled infants out
in the bottom of the tool box she carried and she carried in the back of her
truck a burlap sack, (for larger kids..) She also had a dog in the
back  that she trained to bark when the Nazi soldiers let her in and
out of the ghetto. The soldiers of course wanted nothing to do with the dog
and the barking covered the kids/infants noises.. During  her time of
doing this, she managed to smuggle out and save 2500  kids/infants. She
was caught, and the Nazi's broke both her legs, arms and beat her severely.
Irena kept a record of the names of all the kids she smuggled out and kept
them in a glass jar, buried under a tree in her back yard. After the war,
she tried to locate any parents that may have survived it and reunited the
family.  Most had been gassed. Those kids she helped got placed into
foster family homes or adopted.
Last  year
Irena was up for the Nobel Peace Prize ...
She was not selected.
Al Gore won, for
a slide show on Global Warming.

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Per Snopes, the bit about her passing herself off as a plumber is not true.  Also, her being considered cannot be documented because knowledge about those not selected is supposed to be confidential.  But everything else is confirmed.

Enjoy your Prize, Al.




DomYngBlk -> RE: Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 5:39:00 AM)

So one discredits the other? We can't applaud and cherish both accomplishments?




angelikaJ -> RE: Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 6:10:36 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Irina Sendler.

I got an email about her and it sounded ridiculous.  So I checked it on Snopes and it's true.

-------------------

There recently was a death of a 98 year-old lady named Irena. During WWII, Irena,
got  permission to work in the Warsaw Ghetto, as a Plumbing/Sewer
specialist. She had an  'ulterior motive' ..... She KNEW what the
Nazi's plans were for the Jews, (being German..) Irena smuggled infants out
in the bottom of the tool box she carried and she carried in the back of her
truck a burlap sack, (for larger kids..) She also had a dog in the
back  that she trained to bark when the Nazi soldiers let her in and
out of the ghetto. The soldiers of course wanted nothing to do with the dog
and the barking covered the kids/infants noises.. During  her time of
doing this, she managed to smuggle out and save 2500  kids/infants. She
was caught, and the Nazi's broke both her legs, arms and beat her severely.
Irena kept a record of the names of all the kids she smuggled out and kept
them in a glass jar, buried under a tree in her back yard. After the war,
she tried to locate any parents that may have survived it and reunited the
family.  Most had been gassed. Those kids she helped got placed into
foster family homes or adopted.
Last  year
Irena was up for the Nobel Peace Prize ...
She was not selected.
Al Gore won, for
a slide show on Global Warming.

==========

Per Snopes, the bit about her passing herself off as a plumber is not true.  Also, her being considered cannot be documented because knowledge about those not selected is supposed to be confidential.  But everything else is confirmed.

Enjoy your Prize, Al.




Steven,
There are too many unsung heroes.
That is true.

What she did was remarkable.


We can't blame him for winning 'against her' especially if we don't know if she was up for consideration in the first place.
We don't know that in fact she was his competition.

So, this really has nothing to do with Al, or global warming and climate change.

I can see that you might view it as an issue of priorities within the Nobel Peace Prize committee and it's process.

Was that your point?









DarkSteven -> RE: Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 6:46:40 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

Steven,
There are too many unsung heroes.
That is true.

What she did was remarkable.


We can't blame him for winning 'against her' especially if we don't know if she was up for consideration in the first place.
We don't know that in fact she was his competition.

So, this really has nothing to do with Al, or global warming and climate change.

I can see that you might view it as an issue of priorities within the Nobel Peace Prize committee and it's process.

Was that your point?



Thanks for putting it that way, algelika.

You're right. Gore did nothing more than do what he thought was right, and then accept the reward once offered.  It's the Nobel committee that I have a beef with.




Phoenixpower -> RE: Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 6:55:30 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

You're right. Gore did nothing more than do what he thought was right, and then accept the reward once offered.  It's the Nobel committee that I have a beef with.


sad (that they made the mistake) but true [&o]




Louve00 -> RE: Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 7:46:18 AM)

I thought Al Gore won that award a few years back.  Obama last year and Liu Xiaobo won the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize this year.  Lu Xiaobo wasn't there to receive it though, as he sits in a Chinese prison, jailed for speaking out for human rights.




rulemylife -> RE: Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 8:19:56 AM)

This has been circulating since 2008.  It has been used by Glenn Beck and the "global warming is a hoax" crowd to try and discredit Al Gore and climate change theories.

This was not a head-to-head match-up between Al Gore and Irena Sendler as they like to imply.

There were 181 nominees and she was never considered a top contender.  While I think she was worthy of it, the article below suggests that the committee has been selecting those involved with current issues they feel attention needs to be drawn to.  These were the predictions from the International Peace Research Institute of Oslo in 2007:


Nominations & Speculations  




RacerJim -> RE: Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 8:32:03 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

So one discredits the other? We can't applaud and cherish both accomplishments?


What Irena Sendler accomplished does indeed discredit what Al Gore accomplished. We should applaud and cherish only the worthy accomplishment.




CerVeza -> RE: Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 8:38:52 AM)

That is why the nobel peace prize means nothing. It is a promotional award for leftist causes, mostly. Kissinger won with that north viet guy one year, which was also a joke. algore is part of one of the greatest scams in history.. or you could say he helped form the religion of global warming/cooling whatever. Plus, do a search on algore to find out he made MILLIONS and MILLIONS on this hoax. Follow the money,. muchchachos. How do these demo "public servants" get so rich anyway? Ever wonder about that? First step in overcoming stupidness (well, ignorance... as you can't fix stupid) is to just ask the question!




truckinslave -> RE: Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 9:06:15 AM)

It is hard for me to understand anyone whose respect for the NP has not decreased markedly since, say, the 60s.
It's just a cartoon of what it once was.




servantforuse -> RE: Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 9:26:12 AM)

Didn't Obama get the award in 2008 ? What did he do to deserve it ? The whole thing is a bad joke and has been for some time now.




Musicmystery -> RE: Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 9:57:56 AM)

Nonetheless, it's their money and they can do what they want with it.

I'd have thought a conservative would appreciate that.

At least before the age of the blind left/right paradigm.






joether -> RE: Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 10:37:23 AM)

As several have states already. The lady indeed did a very noble and heroic task, and should be honored! The Nobel Prize committe is only one of several groups around the world. The rules of the prize is such, that only one person can be the winner.

In my local area, I'm part of a volunteer group that raises money and gives it for community projects. One such project, is a yearly award for scholarships for high school seniors going on to college. We have a set dollar amount, and a set amount of awards to be given, BEFORE, we see the list. The lists have never been under 100. We have a strict criteria to follow (and no, I wont give that out), in our decision making. We argue for certain names, that we feel, fit the criteria more then others. In all honestly, if we had the money, all those kids would recieve the scholarship. One to three will just 'stand out' in the crowd, and those make the decision making easier, but the rest, is really hard.

Could it be, that the Nobel Prize Committee was in a similar (if more important) position. Instead of having 100 or so high school students, they have individuals from around the world, that simply defy the odds. Trying to pick one canidate from that list must be extremely tough. And if they could, they'd give awards to each and everyone of those canidates; but the rules have to be followed: only one can win.

Among conservatives, I believe the anger and hatred is because none of the people in their philosophy have a prayer of winning. That, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and others, should be honored for their fight against that Socialist, liberal, vile, Communist, dictator, tree-hugging, Facists, black-promiting, Democrat, President, we have. There is no rule, that states, conservatives couldn't create their own committee; just that no one outside of their tiny little philosophy will take it seriously.





truckinslave -> RE: Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 10:53:01 AM)

"Nonetheless, it's their money and they can do what they want with it. "

Of course.
And if they want to squander the respect they once enjoyed they are not only free to do so but doing a remarkably good job.





Musicmystery -> RE: Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 12:23:29 PM)

I think they crossed that divide when they gave the peace prize to Kissinger.




pahunkboy -> RE: Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 12:31:08 PM)

Think prize patrol van- publishers clearing house.

Same concept.




DomYngBlk -> RE: Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 1:51:10 PM)

I just think many people have trouble with the man that was supposed to be President but was not allowed by virtue of a coup d'etat.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 2:26:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

So one discredits the other? We can't applaud and cherish both accomplishments?


You mean Gores accomplishment of producing a "documentary" as full of lies and half-truths as a Michael Moore documentary?




DomYngBlk -> RE: Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 2:34:57 PM)

Shrugs, old argument. you want to believe a drug addict like fat rush limbaugh.....be my guest.




DarkSteven -> RE: Al Gore's competition. (12/14/2010 3:01:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

It is hard for me to understand anyone whose respect for the NP has not decreased markedly since, say, the 60s.
It's just a cartoon of what it once was.


Actually, China's been doing its best to make it look legitimate again.    http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/12/09/china.confucius.peace/index.html?iref=allsearch




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