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Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/15/2010 8:15:06 AM   
KenDckey


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Yup   That illegal alien was violent
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RE: Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/15/2010 8:21:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you for posting this, one of my friend is a BP agent who lives in Rio Rico, and works out of that sector. He wasn't involved, but my heart goes out to his family and co-workers.

This is a very real and pervasive problem here in the Southwest, and it is getting progressively worse. 


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RE: Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/15/2010 8:43:24 AM   
KenDckey


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Status: offline 		Yeah    I think there are way to many on here that just see the word immigrant and stop there.   They fail to realize the consequences of the issue.

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RE: Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/15/2010 9:24:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		You mean unlike the way you lump drug traffickers and some poor guy trying to find a menial job in the same group?

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RE: Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/15/2010 9:56:12 AM   
KenDckey


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Status: offline 		if their commonality is illegal alien    yeah   this indicates that 1/3 of those in jail are there for drug offenses

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/07/06/20100706illegal-immigration-drug-trade.html

Now if the fed kept good stats, we might know more.  To bad.   Maybe it is the policy of Washington to side with the illegals and drug cartels.   I don't know.

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RE: Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/15/2010 11:23:13 AM   
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I don't know.


Exactly

Juan who is looking for that lawn service job or slaughtering chickens in that meat plant is not interested in shooting at anyone.

The drug smugglers are a different story.  Nothing you do is ever going to completely keep them out. 

You wamt to lock down the border like the old Soviet Union?  You do remember that things still got smuggled in and out?

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RE: Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/15/2010 12:07:51 PM   
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http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/tucson/border-patrol-agent-killed-apx-12152010

Yup   That illegal alien was violent



Did you read your own article?

Allow me to help:


TUCSON, Ariz. - A U.S. Border Patrol agent was shot and killed north of the Arizona-Mexico border while trying to catch bandits who target illegal immigrants, the leader of a union representing agents said Wednesday.


Where in the article does it give the identity and details of any of the suspects?






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RE: Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/15/2010 3:50:35 PM   
KenDckey


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I don't know.


Exactly

Juan who is looking for that lawn service job or slaughtering chickens in that meat plant is not interested in shooting at anyone.

The drug smugglers are a different story.  Nothing you do is ever going to completely keep them out. 

You wamt to lock down the border like the old Soviet Union?  You do remember that things still got smuggled in and out?



Personally, I am in favor of multiple fences of razor wire, in between lots of really pissed off dogs, and land mines.   I know that won't stop the tunnels, but it is a nice start and worked for the most part between the DDR and GDR while I was there.

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RE: Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/15/2010 4:06:41 PM   
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RE: Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/15/2010 4:23:18 PM   
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http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/tucson/border-patrol-agent-killed-apx-12152010

Yup   That illegal alien was violent



Did you read your own article?

Allow me to help:


TUCSON, Ariz. - A U.S. Border Patrol agent was shot and killed north of the Arizona-Mexico border while trying to catch bandits who target illegal immigrants, the leader of a union representing agents said Wednesday.


Where in the article does it give the identity and details of any of the suspects?








http://www.kvoa.com/news/possible-5th-suspect-in-bp-agent-shooting-detained/

Illegal border crosser

http://www.fox11az.com/home/BP-agent-shot-killed-111920884.html

Same circumstances only this one apprehended

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so the berlin wall was a good idea??




Didn't say it was.   I did spend 4 years in Berlin as well.    It devided quarters of the city as outlined in the quadripartite agreements of 1945.   However, in my opinion it was fairly effective.  I have seen it from both sides.   I do wish they had kept more of it as examples of history (good or bad not being the point)


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RE: Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/15/2010 8:18:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/tucson/border-patrol-agent-killed-apx-12152010

Yup   That illegal alien was violent



Did you read your own article?

Allow me to help:


TUCSON, Ariz. - A U.S. Border Patrol agent was shot and killed north of the Arizona-Mexico border while trying to catch bandits who target illegal immigrants, the leader of a union representing agents said Wednesday.


Where in the article does it give the identity and details of any of the suspects?



http://www.kvoa.com/news/possible-5th-suspect-in-bp-agent-shooting-detained/

Illegal border crosser

http://www.fox11az.com/home/BP-agent-shot-killed-111920884.html

Same circumstances only this one apprehended


Neither of those links answers the question I asked.

The agent was part of a task force targeting border bandits who preyed on illegal immigrants crossing the border and ranchers in the area.  And it developed into a gun battle between those bandits and the border patrol agents.

But you are leaving out those details and making assumptions to promote your cause without facts to back them.


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RE: Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/15/2010 9:31:10 PM   
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Juan who is looking for that lawn service job or slaughtering chickens in that meat plant is not interested in shooting at anyone.


Here it's much more likely to be under-the-table plumbers, electricians, roofers, car dealers.

My co-worker's son is a journeyman electrician that had to return to fast food because he was unwilling to accept the current less-than-minimum-wage that the illegals are accepting here for trade jobs.

That old saw about the illegals just looking for jobs "that Americans won't do" is dead. 

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RE: Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/15/2010 10:04:40 PM   
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Personally, I am in favor of multiple fences of razor wire, in between lots of really pissed off dogs, and land mines.   I know that won't stop the tunnels, but it is a nice start and worked for the most part between the DDR and GDR while I was there.


Yet another example of conservatives who want to imitate, not destroy, the old Communist Empire.

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RE: Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/15/2010 10:06:42 PM   
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My co-worker's son is a journeyman electrician that had to return to fast food because he was unwilling to accept the current less-than-minimum-wage that the illegals are accepting here for trade jobs.That old saw about the illegals just looking for jobs "that Americans won't do" is dead. 


According to the Republicans, that is the magic invisible Free Hand O' The Marketplace (pause to genuflect).

The Law of Supply and Demand, doncha know.

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RE: Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/16/2010 6:25:36 AM   
KenDckey


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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/tucson/border-patrol-agent-killed-apx-12152010

Yup   That illegal alien was violent



Did you read your own article?

Allow me to help:


TUCSON, Ariz. - A U.S. Border Patrol agent was shot and killed north of the Arizona-Mexico border while trying to catch bandits who target illegal immigrants, the leader of a union representing agents said Wednesday.


Where in the article does it give the identity and details of any of the suspects?



http://www.kvoa.com/news/possible-5th-suspect-in-bp-agent-shooting-detained/

Illegal border crosser

http://www.fox11az.com/home/BP-agent-shot-killed-111920884.html

Same circumstances only this one apprehended


Neither of those links answers the question I asked.

The agent was part of a task force targeting border bandits who preyed on illegal immigrants crossing the border and ranchers in the area.  And it developed into a gun battle between those bandits and the border patrol agents.

But you are leaving out those details and making assumptions to promote your cause without facts to back them.




You are right and wrong.   I can't give you a link on what I heard in my truck going to the store from some radio announcer.  So if you want proof, I suggest you contact the radio station.

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RE: Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/16/2010 6:27:46 AM   
KenDckey


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Juan who is looking for that lawn service job or slaughtering chickens in that meat plant is not interested in shooting at anyone.


Here it's much more likely to be under-the-table plumbers, electricians, roofers, car dealers.

My co-worker's son is a journeyman electrician that had to return to fast food because he was unwilling to accept the current less-than-minimum-wage that the illegals are accepting here for trade jobs.

That old saw about the illegals just looking for jobs "that Americans won't do" is dead. 


My daughter-in-law's dad was a civil engineer.   He came here as an illegal and worked professional positions.   He didn't do what he should have when they brought in amnesty and they finally deported him.

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RE: Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/16/2010 6:51:11 AM   
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Juan who is looking for that lawn service job or slaughtering chickens in that meat plant is not interested in shooting at anyone.


Here it's much more likely to be under-the-table plumbers, electricians, roofers, car dealers.

My co-worker's son is a journeyman electrician that had to return to fast food because he was unwilling to accept the current less-than-minimum-wage that the illegals are accepting here for trade jobs.

That old saw about the illegals just looking for jobs "that Americans won't do" is dead. 


Bull Shit

Have worked construction for years and that tired old song of how they do construction jobs for $5 an hour is an old long lie.

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RE: Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/16/2010 6:54:09 AM   
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You are right and wrong.   I can't give you a link on what I heard in my truck going to the store from some radio announcer.  So if you want proof, I suggest you contact the radio station.



Some DJ blathering on replaces news in your world?

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RE: Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/16/2010 6:58:33 AM   
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http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/tucson/border-patrol-agent-killed-apx-12152010

Yup   That illegal alien was violent



What did you think was going to happen when you put that much firepower on the border? It won't be the last. Use your fucking head

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RE: Border Patrol Officer shot - 12/16/2010 7:03:46 AM   
KenDckey


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Status: offline 		DYB   your right   as long as there are drug smugllers, coyotes, etc coming across the border   Has nothing to do with how much firepower anyone has, but I wish our people had more and bigger and badder firepower.   Some cobras, maybe a howitzer or 20 you know   something like that

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