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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 8:25:51 AM

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Heh, I know what people think of me lol..I could care less.
I'm gonna have fun regardless both lighthearted and sadistic.

Every time I read your posts, I hear Keanu Reeves saying them. That was almost reason enough to not read your posts LOL. But....I like the banter. I always like seeing what you have to say about something, whether I agree or not. Keep it up, Keanu.

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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 8:34:08 AM

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There was a Russian (if memory serves) performance artist recently who wired himself into a machine that gave him ever increasing jolts of electricity but only if people voted to do so via his net site. The idea was (and I think I get what he's saying) that it's necessary to demonstrate to the world sometimes that people are basically good or basically bad, and that the internet desensitises people to the humanity of others; in other words not many people would punch someone in the face upon first meeting them, but there are many people who would be prepared to remotely electrocute someone via a mouse click.

He did it for days, to the point it was felt to be potentially damaging to him. Some of the footage was quite disturbing.

Don't really know why I posted that. I guess I just felt like it

I'm kind of glad that you did. Can you just imagine how something like the above scenario would go if people had that ability in response to things that people say via the message boards? Not only from the sadism and masochism angle, which I would think would be very obvious on a site like this. (No more "How do I punish an online only sub" threads. Yay!) Instead, I'd have to wonder if such an option were available for trollish behavior and so on if we'd electrocute some people to death. I don't think anybody would disagree that there are certain folks who would definitely be in jeopardy.

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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 8:38:30 AM

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it would be funny as hell with all the bopping going on. And if you got a certain amount of bops, you would have to post "I am not smarter than a 5th grader" before you could post again....lol.

There was a Russian (if memory serves) performance artist recently who wired himself into a machine that gave him ever increasing jolts of electricity but only if people voted to do so via his net site. The idea was (and I think I get what he's saying) that it's necessary to demonstrate to the world sometimes that people are basically good or basically bad, and that the internet desensitises people to the humanity of others; in other words not many people would punch someone in the face upon first meeting them, but there are many people who would be prepared to remotely electrocute someone via a mouse click.

He did it for days, to the point it was felt to be potentially damaging to him. Some of the footage was quite disturbing.

Don't really know why I posted that. I guess I just felt like it

There is actually something a lot more harmless here, if you've annoyed too many people by being a complete ****** the mods will send you a warning, dunno how many warnings it takes but then you can't post anymore, or rather you can but your posts will show up as "awaiting approval" and one of the mods needs to press a button (after reading it and making sure) so that they show up.

But back to the ignore or hide button, I like it. Sure, no point in caring enough what a stranger on the internet writes, so why not just phase the post out, but on the other hand, why read a post if you know it's going to be a waste of time anyway? I guess I'm feeling my age and worry about all those minutes of my life that I won't get back, I could have done something useful, like petted the cats or the dog...

Edited because I screwed that quoting thing up

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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 8:43:25 AM

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There was a Russian (if memory serves) performance artist recently who wired himself into a machine that gave him ever increasing jolts of electricity but only if people voted to do so via his net site. The idea was (and I think I get what he's saying) that it's necessary to demonstrate to the world sometimes that people are basically good or basically bad, and that the internet desensitises people to the humanity of others; in other words not many people would punch someone in the face upon first meeting them, but there are many people who would be prepared to remotely electrocute someone via a mouse click.

He did it for days, to the point it was felt to be potentially damaging to him. Some of the footage was quite disturbing.

Don't really know why I posted that. I guess I just felt like it

I'm kind of glad that you did. Can you just imagine how something like the above scenario would go if people had that ability in response to things that people say via the message boards? Not only from the sadism and masochism angle, which I would think would be very obvious on a site like this. (No more "How do I punish an online only sub" threads. Yay!) Instead, I'd have to wonder if such an option were available for trollish behavior and so on if we'd electrocute some people to death. I don't think anybody would disagree that there are certain folks who would definitely be in jeopardy.

I think (if I remember rightly) that part of his "point" was also that the act of causing harm to another actually does more harm to the perpetrator than the victim.

So, for me, I wouldn't want to see such a system. I'm happy to just "hide" the dull and dreary, or the trollish - I don't actually want to try and change their behaviour by use of violent intervention, firstly because it isn't (if I recall a few studies into recidivist behaviours) effective and secondly because I don't think the effects on my mental well-being would be worth it.

Now of course you could argue that a sarcastic verbal/written response to a moron (as I'm sometimes guilty of myself) is as bad, but I'd counter with the fact that I'm merely using a non-violent method of registering my disapproval of their idiotic behaviour or stupidity. The key being, it's my choice, which is why sometimes I tell an idiot I'm "hiding" them, and sometimes I just do it without saying anything.

I work on the basis that idiots exist for my entertainment, not theirs

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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 8:51:14 AM

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But back to the ignore or hide button, I like it. Sure, no point in caring enough what a stranger on the internet writes, so why not just phase the post out, but on the other hand, why read a post if you know it's going to be a waste of time anyway? I guess I'm feeling my age and worry about all those minutes of my life that I won't get back, I could have done something useful, like petted the cats or the dog...

Fair comment. There's also (for me) the boredom and repetitiveness factor; with some posters I know pretty much as soon as I see their name what they're going to say, therefore there's not a whole lot of point bothering to read them. The “hide” option is therefore a way of saving time which, as you point out, is precious stuff.

CM used to have a less-liberal attitude to conflict or disagreement; virtually anything was jumped on as “excessively rude” or “aggressive”. What this led to, in my opinion, was a large number of sheep milling around spouting pure cobblers, and anyone attempting to mock them for doing so got cut out pretty quickly. It gave the place the feeling of a Sunday school run by a rather overbearing nun. A while back (not sure when as I drift in and out of CM depending on a number of factors) that changed, with mods becoming more tolerant and less concerned about unimportant comments, which led to (again in my opinion) more robust and entertaining debates, rather than the somewhat stilted chats of old. However, an inevitable corollary of that was that more people will end up saying more things that more people don't like or agree with. Personally I think that's a reasonable trade-off, so long as there’s a “hide” button for when a person feels someone’s vitriol is more than they can stand to read.

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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 8:51:15 AM

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Was this thread named for you Rapier?You can go hide now!

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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 8:54:24 AM

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I think (if I remember rightly) that part of his "point" was also that the act of causing harm to another actually does more harm to the perpetrator than the victim.

So, for me, I wouldn't want to see such a system. I'm happy to just "hide" the dull and dreary, or the trollish - I don't actually want to try and change their behaviour by use of violent intervention, firstly because it isn't (if I recall a few studies into recidivist behaviours) effective and secondly because I don't think the effects on my mental well-being would be worth it.

Now of course you could argue that a sarcastic verbal/written response to a moron (as I'm sometimes guilty of myself) is as bad, but I'd counter with the fact that I'm merely using a non-violent method of registering my disapproval of their idiotic behaviour or stupidity. The key being, it's my choice, which is why sometimes I tell an idiot I'm "hiding" them, and sometimes I just do it without saying anything.

I work on the basis that idiots exist for my entertainment, not theirs

I might have to disagree with his point. I happen to believe that laughter is good for the soul and in certain cases, I would be laughing My ass off. I'm not talking about a harmful amount of shock. Just maybe a little jolt that might get someone's attention. That actually would entertain Me a great deal. Just envisioning what would be happening on the other side of the screen would probably give Me a case of the giggles.

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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 8:54:36 AM

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Was this thread named for you Rapier?You can go hide now!

If you care to consult a dictionary (or, more likely, get someone who can read and write properly to look it up for you), you'll note that the dictionary definition of "idiot" applies far more closely to your rather retarded self than it does to me.

But thanks for raising the point, I was wondering which of the tragic morons who peek my profile every couple of days* was going to wander out into the daylight first, blinking and stuttering. Well done!

*for the record I'm strictly heterosexual, so you're wasting your time doing it, but thanks for the attention, it's kind of you.

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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 8:55:42 AM

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I might have to disagree with his point. I happen to believe that laughter is good for the soul and in certain cases, I would be laughing My ass off. I'm not talking about a harmful amount of shock. Just maybe a little jolt that might get someone's attention. That actually would entertain Me a great deal. Just envisioning what would be happening on the other side of the screen would probably give Me a case of the giggles.

I hadn’t even considered that point. I will do so now.

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Yes, you're entirely correct. I’d find it hugely entertaining

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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 9:05:25 AM

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Well,you say you like to contribute to the forum's here.On this thread here,I would agree.You are the best example of what an idiot is all about.

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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 9:10:06 AM

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My involvement on CM depends to a large degree on how busy I am with what, easy to keep a window open and in fact during some horribly boring phone conferences it sometimes saved me from perishing from boredom or pinching myself to stay awake.

The boards are great for meeting people, just for saying hello if I happen to be in their neck of the woods or they happen to be near a place where I'll be during a biz trip or just vacationing. It's sometimes great to put a face to the text, hence my utter disbelief in another thread that somebody would come up with all sorts of excuses why he can't meet somebody who's merely 2 hours away from him, yet plans a future together but wants to train her online, floored me...

But yes, if I consider what somebody writes as just a waste of time, something that might possibly aggravate me (I know it shouldn't but there's always the fact that they're wasting precious oxygen) or just because they're annoying pricks, yup, I will hide them.

As I said I want that hide button next to the buzzer for the door, imagine door rings, I pick up the intercom and some idiot from the Countryside Alliance asks me for the 100th time to sign that **** petition to make "proper" fox hunting legal, instead of telling him where to stick it, I could just press the hide button and they would be gone from my sight forever. Mind you, in this case I would like the magic button that does turn them into foxes, chase them a bit and after the chase ask them what they think about it now...

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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 9:10:36 AM

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Well,you say you like to contribute to the forum's here.On this thread here,I would agree.You are the best example of what an idiot is all about.

Ah, the old moron's standby: "No, YOU are!". A playground classic since time immemorial. Bravo sir; you have disarmed me with your scalpel-like wit.

PS: I see you still can’t write English for toffees. Shame that; I reckon even a mildly intelligent chimp would have got it by now. Are there not remedial classes in your area you could attend? In the UK they're subsidised, so even burger-flipping clowns like you can attain some degree of self-respect.

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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 9:13:50 AM

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Well,you say you like to contribute to the forum's here.On this thread here,I would agree.You are the best example of what an idiot is all about.

In My opinion, he does contribute on a regular basis.

Now, knock off the negativity and let a Dominant woman get back to her laughing about shocking people over the internet.

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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 9:19:33 AM

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As I said I want that hide button next to the buzzer for the door, imagine door rings, I pick up the intercom and some idiot from the Countryside Alliance asks me for the 100th time to sign that **** petition to make "proper" fox hunting legal, instead of telling him where to stick it, I could just press the hide button and they would be gone from my sight forever. Mind you, in this case I would like the magic button that does turn them into foxes, chase them a bit and after the chase ask them what they think about it now...

I once had a couple of suited-and-tie-wearing Jehovah’s Witnesses really latch into me, at an address I used to live at (no entry-phone like I have now). They woke me up at 9am on a Sunday morning (a time when I’m not at my best, lack-of-grumpiness-wise) and proceeded to “doorstep” me.

The first Sunday it happened they got a firm but polite ”no thank you, and don't call again”.

The second Sunday they got a firm and highly impolite suggestion concerning sex and travel, together with a threat of dire consequences should they return.

The third Sunday (why they kept coming back was beyond me) they got politely asked to wait at the door for a moment, followed by a large bucket of cold water in the face/suit, leaving them looking like a couple of depressed penguins, dripping quietly on the doorstep.

They didn't call again, although I was surprised that they had the temerity to complain at my actions, given that they'd had a number of warnings.

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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 9:26:27 AM

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Ah, the old moron's standby: "No, YOU are!". A playground classic since time immemorial. Bravo sir; you have disarmed me with your scalpel-like wit.

For some odd reason I was thinking about this scene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGOmzxYYcHI

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PS: I see you still can’t write English for toffees. Shame that; I reckon even a mildly intelligent chimp would have got it by now. Are there not remedial classes in your area you could attend? In the UK they're subsidised, so even burger-flipping clowns like you can attain some degree of self-respect.

In the US they have normal busses and shorter busses to school, it's a little bit like a mother patting her child on the head and saying "No, you're not stupid, you're special, that's why you're going to special ed!"

In all fairness, he's getting that difficult apostrophe and plural thing, dunno why pressing the space bar after each punctuation mark is such an obstacle...

And careful with the burger flipping insults, my parents saw it as a good lesson for the future that I had to earn my own money if I had special wishes that weren't covered by bdays and xmas pressies, so from 16 to 18 I flipped burgers at one of the esteemed fast food restaurants on weekends (with 18 you can get better paid jobs), it got rid of any ideas I had that education is overrated, flip burgers at MaccieD for a while and a university degree all of a sudden becomes a highly desirable alternative to a life of flipping burgers...

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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 9:30:59 AM

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I don't think it is weak to hide someone if you find their posting style annoying. I think it shows preference, which is something many here forget that we all have. There are those who have posted in this thread who simply thrive on being argumentative and the attention that gives them. I find ignoring them is the best course of action.

I personally don't hide anyone, because I don't give that much of a crap. I find a number of posters who are self righteous, pompous, arrogant, deluded, annoying, long winded and boring, but I don't need to hide them. I just skip over their posts or just roll my eyes and laugh.

Real life is more intense for me and CM is just a momentary distraction in that life.

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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 9:32:25 AM

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For some odd reason I was thinking about this scene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGOmzxYYcHI

*chortle*

Actually, it's more like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpBkc2jK-6w

I'll leave it to you to work out who is playing which character

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In all fairness, he's getting that difficult apostrophe and plural thing

As I'm a fair person, if he were, I wouldn't have to keep mentioning it. That and the fact he persists in hanging round my posts like a love-struck 5 year-old.

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And careful with the burger flipping insults, my parents saw it as a good lesson for the future that I had to earn my own money if I had special wishes that weren't covered by bdays and xmas pressies, so from 16 to 18 I flipped burgers at one of the esteemed fast food restaurants on weekends (with 18 you can get better paid jobs), it got rid of any ideas I had that education is overrated, flip burgers at MaccieD for a while and a university degree all of a sudden becomes a highly desirable alternative to a life of flipping burgers...

How your parents chose to educate you is not my concern. If I wish to refer to an idiot as a "burger flipper" then I'm afraid I'm going to. If that's more than you can stand, the "Hide" button is over there <------

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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 9:32:49 AM

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I can top that one Rapier. Jeholy Witnesses (that's what My neighbor who had a thick Cuban accent called em and it stuck) kept showing up every sunday morning.

After several polite (believe it or not) refusals and asking them to not return, I had enough. I looked out the peephole. Measured and grabbed the right amount of leash on a 95# German shepherd (that's alsatian for you Brits) and opened the door suddenly. As Thor lunged at their throats, I stood there in tighty whities an snarled "What the FUCK do you want?... I said dont FUCKING come BACK" yanked the dog back in and slammed the door.

They never returned.

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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 9:35:53 AM

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I don't think it is weak to hide someone if you find their posting style annoying. I think it shows preference, which is something many here forget that we all have. There are those who have posted in this thread who simply thrive on being argumentative and the attention that gives them. I find ignoring them is the best course of action.

I personally don't hide anyone, because I don't give that much of a crap. I find a number of posters who are self righteous, pompous, arrogant, deluded, annoying, long winded and boring, but I don't need to hide them. I just skip over their posts or just roll my eyes and laugh.

Real life is more intense for me and CM is just a momentary distraction in that life.

I agree with you. I tend to only hide the dullards and the trolls. Although sometimes it's tricky working out which is which.

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RE: When you hide an idiot... - 12/16/2010 9:35:55 AM

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The third Sunday (why they kept coming back was beyond me) they got politely asked to wait at the door for a moment, followed by a large bucket of cold water in the face/suit, leaving them looking like a couple of depressed penguins, dripping quietly on the doorstep.

They didn't call again, although I was surprised that they had the temerity to complain at my actions, given that they'd had a number of warnings.

I like the idea, though where I am there are some obstacles... I mean even if I tell them over the intercom to wait, the gate is too far away from the house to quietly sneak up with buckets of water and they might be forewarned if I'm trodding near the gate with 2 buckets of water...

Maybe if I press the button and let them in and they come close to the house but then there is that roof and a porch, so I still wouldn't get them...

The only way I could see it working would be with a garden hose in the upper bathroom, which I can run across the landing, into my office and from there I could aim at them from the little Juliet balcony.

Is it a crime to pour water over somebody if they happen to be on your property?

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