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Musicmystery -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/17/2010 1:22:32 PM)

I don't think he's clear on what a primary care physician is.

Pick a doctor. That's your primary care physician.




rulemylife -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/17/2010 3:16:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

The good news : The tax cuts implimented by the Bush administration will remain in effect. The bi partisan bill is on its way to the Presidents desk. No higher taxes for anyone..


That's great, I was really worried that those making over $250k a year would have to pay more taxes.





tazzygirl -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/18/2010 3:42:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Medicare, Tricare, Medicaid and SS are better run than insurance companies are for the benfits of the people.


Wrong again.


Prove me wrong or shut the fuck up.

The first you cant do... and the second... lol




blacksword404 -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/18/2010 6:33:44 AM)

The right hand give. And the left hand taketh away.




KenDckey -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/18/2010 6:12:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey
Is that why when I called tricare to check on a doctor, they told me that I had to have a preauthorization to get foreign objects removed from my eye.    And is that because the closest primary care physician was 100 miles away even tho we had lots of local doctors


It depends on where you live.  the closer you are to an area with a large active duty presence the more Doctors are signed up.

But you know that



yeah I know.   but can't handle the air quality there.   Was forced to retire cause I couldn't breathe where I was in Cali   Had the best job in the world there.   0600 - 2200 to get my 8 hrs and I got to decide when I did it and they didn't ahve to be consecutive and I got to go girl watching every day   :)  Some jobs are just fun.

We finally got a primary care in our town and the sucker moved to Lake Havasau City   ugh  

Tricare at Nellis said that if I got a primary care in NV that I could only see doctors in NV.   ugh

Had over 12,000 medical miles last year.   Fortunatly this year only have like 4000   :)   I am a happy camper




KenDckey -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/18/2010 6:13:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I don't think he's clear on what a primary care physician is.

Pick a doctor. That's your primary care physician.


Tricare requires only select doctors can be primary care.    Not on the list   can't be one.    They have to apply.




KenDckey -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/18/2010 6:30:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL:  http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Tax-cut-deal-What-to-expect-cnnm-3399777029.html?x=0

The IRS noted that the Social Security tax break for 2011 will have no effect on your future Social Security benefits, which are based on your career earnings.


Quote is from the last sentence of the article.    I find that funny.  Although it may not have a significant affect over one year's term, no matter how long it is for it will cut your lifetime because you paid less.   Sounds to me like Social Security Department propaganda






tazzygirl -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/18/2010 6:32:09 PM)

Let me get this right. You are complaining about traveling 60 miles to see your Dr?

I used to drive my son 5 hours round trip to see a specialist in Charlotte NC.

And, im going to tell you, the distance between Tricare physicians are better than they used to be under Champus.




KenDckey -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/18/2010 6:50:59 PM)

LOL  no I was complaining about that 175 mile trip to Phoenix when I had to go there for primary care.   Nice 4 hr drive (one way) thru tons of construction which will improve once they finish dividing the road in umpteen dozen years.   But the good part was I got to stay at my sisters so I didn't have to make it an 8 hr round trip for a short dr visit all at one time.

Boy do I agree on the difference between Tricare and Champus.   Champus sucked.   My kids were hospitalized for 4 years.   At the end of that Champus decided not to cover 3 of those years.   2 boys  24/7   3 years   ugh.   At least the hosp didn't try to sue me for the bill.    It was 3/4 million (1984 dollars)




tazzygirl -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/18/2010 9:25:55 PM)

Champus got into the habit of rubber stamping everything no. Sorta like insurance companies do now. they do it to see how hard you will fight for what is rightly yours.




soul2share -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/19/2010 12:27:38 AM)

I'm one of those folks the IRS hates.  Not only do I have 0 dependents and the single withholding, I also have an extra $50 over the federal and state taxes (not applicable here in FL, they have no state income tax....one reason why I moved here!) withheld out of my paycheck each payday.  I started this when GWB Sr was in office and they started fucking around with the tax laws.  I don't necessarily do it for a refund, but I don't want to get the tax bill at the end of the year.  I have averaged a refund of $1500 Federal, and $800 in whatever state I filed in.  I probably won't get that big of one from the federal gov't this year because I only had an extra $50 a month held out due to the way we got paid.  Plus, by the time I start my new job (WOOT!), I'll have gotten approximately 10 weeks of unemployment, and I didn't have any taxes withheld.....crap, I only get $275 a week for unemployment benefits.....considering that my basic living expenses total approx $1400 NOT including groceries, I can't afford to lose any of it to taxes.  I'm hoping that the standard deduction will help even things out.

But it's like found money at the beginning of the year, I use it to get the big ticket items that I normally couldn't afford.  This year, it was the downpayment on a car, one year, it was a trip to Mexico.




THELADY -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/19/2010 10:23:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Better the leeches in Government than the leeches in CEO offices. Medicare, Tricare, Medicaid and SS are better run than insurance companies are for the benfits of the people.


google the ratings of insurance claim denials. most companies turn down 4 to 7% of the claims, one co. turns down 14% and medicare/caide turns down 40% of the claims.......probably cos they are better run and care about the people!

I have long thought that members of both parties have led to the complete mess that is our present govt. these money grabing, freedom snatchers are most often progressives in both parties. elitists who think only they know what is best for all of us inferor people.

as for My senator, I let him know tha I will, for the first time, physically volenteer to campain for someone who will oppose him come the next election.

Merry Christmas to all,
Happy New Year and
God bless America!




willbeurdaddy -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/19/2010 10:33:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

quote:

ORIGINAL:  http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Tax-cut-deal-What-to-expect-cnnm-3399777029.html?x=0

The IRS noted that the Social Security tax break for 2011 will have no effect on your future Social Security benefits, which are based on your career earnings.


Quote is from the last sentence of the article.    I find that funny.  Although it may not have a significant affect over one year's term, no matter how long it is for it will cut your lifetime because you paid less.   Sounds to me like Social Security Department propaganda





Wrong




tazzygirl -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/20/2010 4:07:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: THELADY

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Better the leeches in Government than the leeches in CEO offices. Medicare, Tricare, Medicaid and SS are better run than insurance companies are for the benfits of the people.


google the ratings of insurance claim denials. most companies turn down 4 to 7% of the claims, one co. turns down 14% and medicare/caide turns down 40% of the claims.......probably cos they are better run and care about the people!

I have long thought that members of both parties have led to the complete mess that is our present govt. these money grabing, freedom snatchers are most often progressives in both parties. elitists who think only they know what is best for all of us inferor people.

as for My senator, I let him know tha I will, for the first time, physically volenteer to campain for someone who will oppose him come the next election.

Merry Christmas to all,
Happy New Year and
God bless America!


I did google... 22% denial rate for insurance companies. Put up or shut up, babe. Prove your statistics or slither back into your nest.




TreasureKY -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/20/2010 5:50:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I did google... 22% denial rate for insurance companies. Put up or shut up, babe. Prove your statistics or slither back into your nest.


Tazzy, I'm afraid the AMA has already graded Medicare as compared to insurance companies. You can find the complete results here.

From that report:




[image]local://upfiles/416509/A8082B62BF3D458F845CF8911A769EAC.jpg[/image]




tazzygirl -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/20/2010 5:53:02 PM)

Yes, Treasure, im well aware of that report. I wanted the .. ahem... Lady... to post her proof.




Medic -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/20/2010 7:33:39 PM)

As an FYI, Medicare is a frontrunner this year also.

[image]http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upload/images/368/claims-denied-graph.jpg[/image]





DarkSteven -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/20/2010 9:00:20 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: servantforuse

The good news : The tax cuts implimented by the Bush administration will remain in effect. The bi partisan bill is on its way to the Presidents desk. No higher taxes for anyone..


Wrong.  The higher taxes WILL come.  They've simply been deferred.  The deficit is unsustainable.  And there's been no letup in spending.




tazzygirl -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/21/2010 12:43:20 AM)

Perhaps you, in your search, discovered the reasons why behind those numbers. [:D]

If not, this should start you on your road to discovery.

http://healthcare-economist.com/2008/06/30/medicare-more-likely-to-deny-claims-than-commerical-health-insurers/

The comment section is quite enlightening.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: A bigger tax bite (12/21/2010 8:35:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Perhaps you, in your search, discovered the reasons why behind those numbers. [:D]

If not, this should start you on your road to discovery.

http://healthcare-economist.com/2008/06/30/medicare-more-likely-to-deny-claims-than-commerical-health-insurers/

The comment section is quite enlightening.


In other words competition works, contrary to your constant whining.

"Competition between insurers may increase claims approvals. Most physicians and hospitals must take Medicare because it represents so large a share of the helathcare spending. On the other hand, physicians may only accept patients whose insurance companies have prompt payment with fewer denials. This leads to some incentive for insurance companies to decrease claims denials."





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