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Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/19/2010 5:47:08 AM

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20101217/sc_space/amazingspectacletotallunareclipsemondaynight

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RE: Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/19/2010 7:18:56 AM

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I hope you get to see it Geets - It will be daytime here. :(

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RE: Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/19/2010 8:49:36 AM

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I'm bummed.....the forecast is calling for clouds here.....

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RE: Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/19/2010 9:55:05 AM

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Rain here as well Salt Lake Utah

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RE: Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/19/2010 10:40:23 AM

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Rain in So-Cal as well. It's a shame. For the last one, I was able to watch it through the living room window.

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RE: Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/19/2010 6:29:42 PM

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I might be able to see it, I am making sure that eggs don't hatch yet.

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RE: Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/19/2010 6:40:59 PM

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I hardly ever see any of this as this city is not called the windy city, although it is windier, I call it cloud city. We can't see shit usually.

Anyway, my roomie come up with this the other day. Down in Incaland or wherever, they found these buildings. The alignment of which was figured out a long time ago and at the winter or summer solistace the sun's rays align and you know it is the solistace. Well there were a couple of more buildings.

More recently they found out just what those building align to, I guess it had to be something. Maybe it was hard for them to build buildings or something, but these do the same thing but in relation to what I term the lunastice. Really. It is on an eighteen year cycle, just like the sun, but the moon.

So these ancient people without computers, calculators or maybe even without paper figured out how to build this shit that would indicate i.e. the solistaces, but also those lunastices. They tell you that people only lived to be 35 back then but I think that is bullshit. On an eighteen year cycle it would be practically impossible to figure this out, once it happened twice you would be dead. Things like this is why I disbelieve all the crap about how much longer we live now. I think that in the past people could live longer, not poisoned or malnourished, but many were killed by circumstance. Whether it was war or some strange disease many died young. Remember the definition of "average". All these people only lived to be ON AVERAGE thirty something. Some died at birth, some died in wars, some died who knows. But the potential lifespan was much longer, if one avoided the pitfalls.

This is part of why I don't take statistics as gospel. Even if they don't try to lie, they can.

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RE: Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/19/2010 8:01:39 PM

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Hopin to see it tomorrow night.

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RE: Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/19/2010 8:26:27 PM

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"For the last one, I was able to watch it through the living room window"

456 years ago ? We have to talk.

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RE: Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/20/2010 3:46:26 AM

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"For the last one, I was able to watch it through the living room window"

456 years ago ? We have to talk.

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From the article "The last total lunar eclipse occurred on Feb. 20 to Feb. 21, 2008 and was visible from most of the Americas, as well as Europe, much of Africa and western Asia. In 2011, there will be two total lunar eclipses. The first, on June 15, will be visible primarily from the Eastern Hemisphere and will have an unusually long duration of totality lasting one hour and 40 minutes."

you may want to redo your math on that one termy.

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RE: Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/20/2010 5:04:59 AM

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I am at a loss as to where I came up with 456 years. It's not in the link in the OP.

All I know is that it is likely to be cloudy here and we won't see it. We went out west when I was a kid and the most alluring thing abut it was the "big sky". You actually don't need a weatherman. If space aliens came you would be the first to know. In the city you can't see shit.

Soon I'll find out where I came up with this 456 year shit. Maybe there is something unusual about this time, something that doesn't happen every few years. I'll find it. Or maybe something got confused, wouldn't be the first time. I'll get back to you on it, I didn't pull that number out of a hat.

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RE: Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/20/2010 9:21:16 AM

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We're going to try to see it. It's supposed to be "mostly clear" tonight, so hopefully it'll be clear enough to see it. I remember the one back in '03, that was pretty sweet. :)

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So these ancient people without computers, calculators or maybe even without paper figured out how to build this shit that would indicate i.e. the solistaces, but also those lunastices. They tell you that people only lived to be 35 back then but I think that is bullshit. On an eighteen year cycle it would be practically impossible to figure this out, once it happened twice you would be dead. Things like this is why I disbelieve all the crap about how much longer we live now. I think that in the past people could live longer, not poisoned or malnourished, but many were killed by circumstance. Whether it was war or some strange disease many died young. Remember the definition of "average". All these people only lived to be ON AVERAGE thirty something. Some died at birth, some died in wars, some died who knows. But the potential lifespan was much longer, if one avoided the pitfalls.

Sure. Average lifespan includes the very large # of people that died before reaching adulthood, or like you say, the people that died fighting in wars (mostly young men I imagine). So if the average lifespan is 35, you'd have to have a decent number of people that lived to 50 or 60 years old.

Also, the Incas had a sort of writing system using strings. So they may have "written" down data about the cycles, and then they'd have records going back quite a bit anyway.

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Soon I'll find out where I came up with this 456 year shit. Maybe there is something unusual about this time, something that doesn't happen every few years. I'll find it. Or maybe something got confused, wouldn't be the first time. I'll get back to you on it, I didn't pull that number out of a hat.

On the NASA website it says the last time there was a lunar eclipse on the winter solstice was in the 1600s, so maybe that's where you got the number. Though in that case it'd be more like 356 years.

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RE: Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/20/2010 10:42:18 PM

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It just started about 6 minutes ago here.

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RE: Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/20/2010 11:14:34 PM

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been running in and out of the house to watch it in stages.. too damned cold to just kick back out there and watch.. LOL currently at a bit less than half.. or at least thats where it was last moon check!

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RE: Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/20/2010 11:40:34 PM

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Damn, I'd have happily forgotten about it and stayed warm if you hadn't reminded me!

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RE: Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/20/2010 11:45:51 PM

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LOL

OK, I have now seen it in totality.. *haz a happy*

not going to watch it move away.. too damned cold and too damned tired...LOL

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RE: Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/21/2010 12:41:51 AM

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I just had the chance to see it.Great view here in St.Petersburg,Flordia.Very interesting.Sort of an orange-red color.Just for the record,this is the first time in over 400 year's that a Full Moon Eclipse has happened on the Winter Solstice.That's probaly what you meant Termy.

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RE: Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/21/2010 2:41:10 AM

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I am at a loss as to where I came up with 456 years. It's not in the link in the OP.

Soon I'll find out where I came up with this 456 year shit. Maybe there is something unusual about this time, something that doesn't happen every few years. I'll find it. Or maybe something got confused, wouldn't be the first time. I'll get back to you on it, I didn't pull that number out of a hat.

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Termy, its the first time a total lunar eclipse will happen on the winter solstice in 456 years.

ETA I see Charles beat me to the explanation!

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RE: Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/21/2010 2:43:56 AM

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LOL

OK, I have now seen it in totality.. *haz a happy*

not going to watch it move away.. too damned cold and too damned tired...LOL

Sweet Dreams!!

I'm bummed that it was overcast here, I'm a night owl and was looking forward to seeing it.

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RE: Total Lunar Eclipse on Monday!! - 12/21/2010 3:15:47 AM

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I was gonna try for pics... but my camera battery was dead..

*hugs the lovely Helen*

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