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LadyNTrainer -> RE: Supposed Craigslist Ad (1/3/2011 10:01:46 PM)
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ORIGINAL: omkfY
[sm=shame.gif] I'm sorry, but trying to move a 4 foot rattlesnake with a branch 20 miles from the nearest roadway is just asking for a lifeflight.
A 4' oreganus is a pretty big one; this is a small species. But at that size they are disgustingly easy to handle with a branch. What do you think a 4' snake is going to do if you are at the other end of a 5' branch? Their strike range to body radio sucks. Typical strike range on a 4' heavy bodied crotalid is around 2', though the 50% ratio can go up a bit if they're really freaked out, or if they are smaller and lighter.
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And its not being hit by "a bullet," its being hit by hundreds of pellets covering a basketball-sized area with each shot. If you need a visual, here is some random youtube dude's target practice clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjnLKbhCUzA
The original topic here is handguns, but you did mention snake shot. I'm dubious as to whether the degree of pellet scatter depicted could completely obliterate the venom apparatus to the point that the horse wouldn't still have been bitten upon making physical contact with the animal. At close range it could. On multiple shots it could. Anything less would leave enough intact pieces for a reflex bite. It really doesn't take much. There are a lot of envenomations on record, very very bad ones, from dead snakes or portions thereof. If you don't believe me, please believe the medical literature.
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A dead snake will flop around a bit and the jaws may open/close, but it does not strike.
If you've physically destroyed the supporting bones and muscles, that may be true. Otherwise, it depends. In the incident that convinced me to never use the standard commercial euthanasia drugs and protocols for snakes again, I witnessed striking behaviors continue for more than twenty minutes in a large adult rattlesnake that had been pithed and had no heartbeat, in addition to a broken neck and shattered skull. The same animal had been previously shot with a pellet scatter similar to what you had described. Chemically (or manually) stopping the heart doesn't work for shit on snakes, and neither does scatter shot unless you do enough damage to physically destroy the structures you want to keep from moving. If there are intact muscles and nerves left, they can keep right on automatically firing even in the absence of a heart or a brain. And on autofire, there is no "conserve venom" setting, which is why so many of the absolute worst bites on medical record tend to be from dead snakes or from just their heads.
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