Louve00
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I was always under the assumption that the catholic church changed the date of the birth of Christ to the pagan holiday. The reasons for this have varied as I googled for an answer. I once saw on the history channel the Catholic church changed the date to 12/25 in an effort to introduce pagans to christianity and to celebrate with them. But this is a link I just googled. So yes...Christmas day was rigged, IMO. Not the meaning of Christmas as what it means to some people, but the actual day Christ was born. Personally though, I like the definition I bolded and it really bugs me how people get so possessive of the meaning of a day. Did the Catholic Church fix the Christmas date of December 25th? If so, what does it celebrate: Jesus Christ the Lord and Saviour or a pagan god Sort answers by: Greatness / Likes Date submitted Answers. 15 helpful answers below. by Pizza Man on December 30th, 2007 Yes, the Church set 12-25 as the birth of Christ. There is little evidence at what time of the year Jesus was born, but 12-25 is unlikely. Christmas was designed to replace the Pagan holiday of Yule. Some traditions of Yule are still kept at Christmas - including trees, lights, and mistletoe. A lot of Christian Holidays were timed to replace pagan holidays. Easter replaced spring fertility (the easter bunny is a reminder of the fertility days), and Halloween (All Hallows Eve) replaced fall festivals. Halloween has pretty much reverted back to its Pagan roots, as I don't know anyone who celebrates "All Hallows Eve" anymore. :) Now, what Christmas celebrates depends pretty on how you celebrate it. If you focus on the birth of Christ, then it's a Christian holiday. If you focus on Pagan Gods, it's a Pagan holiday. If you buy lots of gifts and tell the kids about Santa Claus, then it's just a fun time of the year without a lot of religious meaning. So Christmas is whatever you make it. Comments Jesus was actually born sometime in spring. The reason the recgonize it as christmas is because Christians wanted to convert pagans to christians so they stole the Holiday in which pagans used to celebrate the (winter solstice, I believe) Dec 25 is when there festival started. So Christians changed it to Christmas Borrowed some of there ideas to make it more welcoming and Bam suddenly instead of being about festivities its about jesus being born .. who wasnt even born anywhere around Christmas. Report by Valarie robbing the Deaf on December 30th, 2007 The New Catholic Encyclopedia acknowledges: “The date of Christ’s birth is not known. The Gospels indicate neither the day nor the month . . . According to the hypothesis suggested by H. Usener . . . and accepted by most scholars today, the birth of Christ was assigned the date of the winter solstice because on this day, as the sun began its return to northern skies, the pagan devotees of Mithra celebrated the dies natalis Solis Invicti (birthday of the invincible sun). On Dec. 25, 274, Aurelian had proclaimed the sun-god principal patron of the empire and dedicated a temple to him in the Campus Martius. Christmas originated at a time when the cult of the sun was particularly strong at Rome.”—(1967), Vol. III, p. 656. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO SHARING IN CELEBRATIONS THAT MAY HAVE UNCHRISTIAN ROOTS? At Exodus 32:4-10. Notice that the Israelites adopted an Egyptian religious practice but gave it a new name, “a festival to Jehovah.” But Jehovah severely punished them for this. Today we see only 20th-century practices associated with holidays. Some may appear harmless. But Jehovah observed firsthand the pagan religious practices from which these originated. Should not his view be what matters to us? Illustration: Suppose a crowd come to a gentleman’s home saying they are there to celebrate his birthday. He does not favor the celebration of birthdays. He does not like to see people overeat or get drunk or engage in loose conduct. But some of them do all those things, and they bring presents for everyone there except him! On top of all that, they pick the birthday of one of the man’s enemies as the date for the celebration. How would the man feel? Would you want to be a party to it? Is this not what is being done by Christmas celebrations. Food for thought.. Report by vew573 on April 30th, 2010 Add a comment... Sponsored LinksThe Origin of Christmas www.worldtocome.orgIs X-mas a Christian Holiday? Learn the Incredible Truth Today! Christmas and its History www.thercg.orgWhat does Christmas Mean? Learn the true Origin of Christma Read more: Did the Catholic Church fix the Christmas date of December 25th? If so, what does it celebrate: Jesus Christ the Lord and Saviour or a pagan god? | Answerbag http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/528873#ixzz18wz2Foes
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