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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/23/2010 2:14:33 AM   
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Actually Christmas shouldn't even be this time of year. Whoever had the bright idea of putting holidays during the time when people have enormous heating bills, bad roads and would like to hibernate should have his head examined. But oh well, I guess when you're the Pope........


Christmas — History.com Articles, Video, Pictures and Facts

An Ancient Holiday

The middle of winter has long been a time of celebration around the world. Centuries before the arrival of the man called Jesus, early Europeans celebrated light and birth in the darkest days of winter. Many peoples rejoiced during the winter solstice, when the worst of the winter was behind them and they could look forward to longer days and extended hours of sunlight.

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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/23/2010 2:16:04 AM   
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What holiday do the Satanists celebrate this time of year, I wonder?


I don't know, but instead of Silent Night they play Stairway to Heaven backwards.

Stairway to Heaven backwards






interesting in an audio version of photoshop kinda way...

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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/23/2010 2:20:11 AM   
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Actually Christmas shouldn't even be this time of year. Whoever had the bright idea of putting holidays during the time when people have enormous heating bills, bad roads and would like to hibernate should have his head examined. But oh well, I guess when you're the Pope........


Christmas — History.com Articles, Video, Pictures and Facts

An Ancient Holiday

The middle of winter has long been a time of celebration around the world. Centuries before the arrival of the man called Jesus, early Europeans celebrated light and birth in the darkest days of winter. Many peoples rejoiced during the winter solstice, when the worst of the winter was behind them and they could look forward to longer days and extended hours of sunlight.




I love Christmas, one of the most pagan holidays on the calendar(aside from Halloween...infact I'm pretty sure all the major christian holidays are pagan feast days)

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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/23/2010 4:43:23 AM   
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What holiday do the Satanists celebrate this time of year, I wonder?


Pretty sure it's winter solstice. Guess i just outed myself.

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Actually, being that Satan is a Christian concept and Pagans are NOT Christians, their celebrating a Pagan holiday doesn't make any sense.


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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/23/2010 7:38:08 AM   
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Actually, being that Satan is a Christian concept and Pagans are NOT Christians, their celebrating a Pagan holiday doesn't make any sense.


It makes about as much sense as Christians celebrating a Pagan holiday.

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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/23/2010 7:54:35 AM   
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I was always under the assumption that the catholic church changed the date of the birth of Christ to the pagan holiday.  The reasons for this have varied as I googled for an answer.  I once saw on the history channel the Catholic church changed the date to 12/25 in an effort to introduce pagans to christianity and to celebrate with them.  But this is a link I just googled.

So yes...Christmas day was rigged, IMO.  Not the meaning of Christmas as what it means to some people, but the actual day Christ was born.  Personally though, I like the definition I bolded and it really bugs me how people get so possessive of the meaning of a day.
Did the Catholic Church fix the Christmas date of December 25th? If so, what does it celebrate: Jesus Christ the Lord and Saviour or a pagan god
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    by Pizza Man on December 30th, 2007 Yes, the Church set 12-25 as the birth of Christ. There is little evidence at what time of the year Jesus was born, but 12-25 is unlikely.

    Christmas was designed to replace the Pagan holiday of Yule. Some traditions of Yule are still kept at Christmas - including trees, lights, and mistletoe.

    A lot of Christian Holidays were timed to replace pagan holidays. Easter replaced spring fertility (the easter bunny is a reminder of the fertility days), and Halloween (All Hallows Eve) replaced fall festivals. Halloween has pretty much reverted back to its Pagan roots, as I don't know anyone who celebrates "All Hallows Eve" anymore. :)

    Now, what Christmas celebrates depends pretty on how you celebrate it. If you focus on the birth of Christ, then it's a Christian holiday. If you focus on Pagan Gods, it's a Pagan holiday. If you buy lots of gifts and tell the kids about Santa Claus, then it's just a fun time of the year without a lot of religious meaning. So Christmas is whatever you make it.
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      Jesus was actually born sometime in spring. The reason the recgonize it as christmas is because Christians wanted to convert pagans to christians so they stole the Holiday in which pagans used to celebrate the (winter solstice, I believe) Dec 25 is when there festival started. So Christians changed it to Christmas Borrowed some of there ideas to make it more welcoming and Bam suddenly instead of being about festivities its about jesus being born .. who wasnt even born anywhere around Christmas. Report
    by Valarie robbing the Deaf on December 30th, 2007 The New Catholic Encyclopedia acknowledges: “The date of Christ’s birth is not known. The Gospels indicate neither the day nor the month . . .

    According to the hypothesis suggested by H. Usener . . . and accepted by most scholars today, the birth of Christ was assigned the date of the winter solstice because on this day, as the sun began its return to northern skies, the pagan devotees of Mithra celebrated the dies natalis Solis Invicti (birthday of the invincible sun).

    On Dec. 25, 274, Aurelian had proclaimed the sun-god principal patron of the empire and dedicated a temple to him in the Campus Martius. Christmas originated at a time when the cult of the sun was particularly strong at Rome.”—(1967), Vol. III, p. 656.

    IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO SHARING IN CELEBRATIONS THAT MAY HAVE UNCHRISTIAN ROOTS?

    At Exodus 32:4-10. Notice that the Israelites adopted an Egyptian religious practice but gave it a new name, “a festival to Jehovah.” But Jehovah severely punished them for this. Today we see only 20th-century practices associated with holidays. Some may appear harmless. But Jehovah observed firsthand the pagan religious practices from which these originated. Should not his view be what matters to us?

    Illustration: Suppose a crowd come to a gentleman’s home saying they are there to celebrate his birthday. He does not favor the celebration of birthdays. He does not like to see people overeat or get drunk or engage in loose conduct. But some of them do all those things, and they bring presents for everyone there except him! On top of all that, they pick the birthday of one of the man’s enemies as the date for the celebration. How would the man feel? Would you want to be a party to it? Is this not what is being done by Christmas celebrations.

    Food for thought.. Report
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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/23/2010 8:43:21 AM   
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I was always under the assumption that the catholic church changed the date of the birth of Christ to the pagan holiday.  The reasons for this have varied as I googled for an answer.  I once saw on the history channel the Catholic church changed the date to 12/25 in an effort to introduce pagans to christianity and to celebrate with them.


You don't say.

You might have saved yourself the googling by reading the link I posted above from History.com.  You know, the website of the History Channel.

Does anyone bother reading anything on theses boards anymore?



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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/23/2010 8:48:10 AM   
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Hope you all have a great holiday however you celebrate
hah bum hugs to one and all




I would accept a "bum hug" from you anytime

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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/23/2010 9:03:02 AM   
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Bum hugs are a feel good christmas sensation as long as you reciprocate and consent is given, woohoooo




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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/23/2010 9:04:53 AM   
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Does anyone bother reading anything on theses boards anymore?




If you mean do I accept homework assignments from a forum board, the answer is.....it depends on the time or desire I have to click on a link.  I may or may not read the link you posted.  I also don't take offense to people who won't read my links, or even my posts, for that matter.  And I don't mind googling anything. 


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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/23/2010 9:12:09 AM   
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Bum hugs are a feel good christmas sensation as long as you reciprocate and consent is given, woohoooo






With you dear lady, my consent and reciprocation is a given.

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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/23/2010 9:40:40 AM   
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Does anyone bother reading anything on theses boards anymore?




If you mean do I accept homework assignments from a forum board, the answer is.....it depends on the time or desire I have to click on a link.  I may or may not read the link you posted.  I also don't take offense to people who won't read my links, or even my posts, for that matter.  And I don't mind googling anything. 



Well, considering that nearly everything you posted was in the History.com link it would have saved you a lot of time and trouble repeating the same information.

But as long as you're having fun that's what's important.

Knock yourself out.

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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/23/2010 9:51:20 AM   
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To be politically correct rml, Happy Festivus!!!  

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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/23/2010 6:20:54 PM   
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Hey Firm.

Merry Christmas to you and treasure.


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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/23/2010 6:23:03 PM   
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Hey, I was gonna say Happy Festivus! It's the holiday for the REST of us! And 23 December is the Airing of Grievances!!!

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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/23/2010 6:27:03 PM   
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I can't help but thinking of old Seinfield episodes when I hear that.

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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/23/2010 6:30:15 PM   
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Wow, talk about "being said many times and many ways"!

Adding Our two-cents into the mix: "Merry Christmas" to all the CM crew/members.......... and tidings of "uncomfort" and the joy it brings.

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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/23/2010 11:08:48 PM   
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Hey Firm.

Merry Christmas to you and treasure.


Thank you gracious lady, and Merry Christmas to you and yours, as well.

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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/23/2010 11:16:11 PM   
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"And 23 December is the Airing of Grievances!!! "

Wow. I had court today. Well a hearing, and everybody was nice.

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RE: Politically Correct Christmas Greetings - 12/24/2010 10:15:34 AM   
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Merry Christmas everyone.

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