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domiguy -> RE: May I ask, what does it mean to you to collar someone? (12/22/2010 10:21:19 PM)

It's a joke. Only fools place any weight upon it. What is the average length of a realtionship once a collar has been accepted?

Would love to see a study done on this. My guess is about two and a half weeks....lol.

It is nothing like a marriage it is as fictitious as Gor.

Do people understand all that getting married and divorced entails? To make such a comparison means you have not an understanding of law or reality.




LadyPact -> RE: May I ask, what does it mean to you to collar someone? (12/22/2010 11:01:22 PM)

Some day, Alice.  Bang, zoom, right to the moon.




OsideGirl -> RE: May I ask, what does it mean to you to collar someone? (12/23/2010 6:50:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

What is the average length of a realtionship once a collar has been accepted?

Would love to see a study done on this. My guess is about two and a half weeks....lol.
Yeah, but my opinion that's because of how people view the collar, not because of the relationship the collar represents. So many people treat it like a trophy without looking beyond that trophy. So many people offer/accept one so quickly that they really haven't even figured out if they actually like the other person.




KatyLied -> RE: May I ask, what does it mean to you to collar someone? (12/23/2010 10:47:10 AM)

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Do people understand all that getting married and divorced entails?


Those who think collar=marriage obviously do not understand the difference between a made up ceremony and a legally-binding contract.




phoenixmoonn13 -> RE: May I ask, what does it mean to you to collar someone? (12/23/2010 11:34:52 AM)

there is also the feelings of the relationship. i have been married and divorced so know what thas about. how i feel with master is so much more conneciton and commitment than when i was married. i know there is no binding in law etc and we may get married at somepoint his divorce is in its process so its not an option yet. but how you feel is important as well as the binding legalities




SlaveOwnerDave -> RE: May I ask, what does it mean to you to collar someone? (12/23/2010 5:39:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: phoenixmoonn13
my collar means more than the wedding ring i wore when i was still married. i wear a necklace with a charm that has meaning for us both only taken it off once in over two years when i had to have an operation . and a thumb ring which i have never taken off. we had a private ceremony just us 2 its just an outward symbol of something far deeper and meaningful.
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder
For us it just means he owns me..nothing more nothing less. No formal contracts, no ceremony. It means I'm bound to him just like the bracelet is around my wrist.


These two quotes about cover it, for Me. When I offer My collar, it is only after I am SURE I want that person in My life, that I want that person as a part of Myself.
The work required to earn My collar is only a part of what the collar symbolizes. When I close My collar around My property, it means, quite obviously, that it is My property. The collar, somewhat invisibly, also means My commitment to My property, to protect, guide, nurture, and do all the other things necessary for My property to be successful in its service to Me, for it to feel fulfilled in its service to Me, for it to understand that, whenever the inevitable problems come up, I will be there to help it, as much as it needs!

The service the Master provides the slave is invisible, even to the participants of the relationship. That service is an absolute necessity, for the slave to surrender to Him, to allow itself to be 'absorbed' into His life. Without support from the Master, the slave cannot serve, and will be neither happy nor fulfilled.

Most marriages are deficient in communication---many years of reading agony aunts has made that crystal clear, to Me. The communication required in a Master/slave relation exceeds that needed in a marriage. Master and slave know this, going in, and have made the requisite commitments! The collar---My collar, anyway---symbolizes all these commitments!




domiguy -> RE: May I ask, what does it mean to you to collar someone? (12/23/2010 11:55:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: phoenixmoonn13

there is also the feelings of the relationship. i have been married and divorced so know what thas about. how i feel with master is so much more conneciton and commitment than when i was married. i know there is no binding in law etc and we may get married at somepoint his divorce is in its process so its not an option yet. but how you feel is important as well as the binding legalities



Which has absolutely nothing to do with being collared.




MissLily72 -> RE: May I ask, what does it mean to you to collar someone? (12/24/2010 5:41:10 AM)

Once again I would like to thank you all so much. I value everyones opinions on the issue. They seem to be quite varied as I suspected. I certainly understand it is not a legally binding contract like marriage. It is nice to hear what people think about collaring and what it means to them. I can see that the thought of it invokes something very special for some and nothing for others. I am sure it is just a deeply personal thing between each couple.




KnightofMists -> RE: May I ask, what does it mean to you to collar someone? (12/24/2010 1:44:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MissLily72

I am curious about what it means to different people. Is it the same for everyone?



simple... a life time commitment is established...... and no it doesn't mean the same to everyone and that is ok.... what is important that those in the same relationship have compatiable meanings.... and compatiable doesn't equate to it being the same thing either.




agirl -> RE: May I ask, what does it mean to you to collar someone? (12/24/2010 7:14:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

It's a joke. Only fools place any weight upon it. What is the average length of a realtionship once a collar has been accepted?

Would love to see a study done on this. My guess is about two and a half weeks....lol.

It is nothing like a marriage it is as fictitious as Gor.

Do people understand all that getting married and divorced entails? To make such a comparison means you have not an understanding of law or reality.


Can't argue with the chap.(We decided on 7 months, on average, nothing scientific about it, but it's been quite amusing to see how close to 7 months that it all goes tits up)

I'm here because I want to be ........ If I don't want to be, then I won't be. Ditto, for him.

Yes, we've committed to each other (and been together for many years)......but he hasn't the clout that a *husband* has. Good job neither of us gives a crap about that..we wouldn't even have a clue who'd be better off!. 

Do people REALLY care about that kind of thing?

agirl




UniqueRaven -> RE: May I ask, what does it mean to you to collar someone? (12/24/2010 7:28:17 PM)

As many here have said, it means different things to different people.

I have friends who take collaring VERY seriously. I know of couples who have collared only after they've been married - several years! One of my good slave friends waited almost 7 years to be collared.

But those relationships are very grounded in D/s as reality, not as an attempted fantasy "lived as life" - which is what we most often see online. Hence the fact that most collars are often short lived.

My own personal experience with collars is this - I like the way they feel when locked around my throat by the right Dominant man. I like the way it feels to have a leash hooked on one, and kneeling at his feet as he holds the leash in his hand. Very intimate. And as a meaningful piece of jewelry, they can be special - just like a ring or a meaningful necklace.

But the real commitment doesn't come from the collar, or a piece of paper, or a ceremony - it can only come from the heart of the man I submit to...and my own.




Buzzzz -> RE: May I ask, what does it mean to you to collar someone? (12/26/2010 4:43:31 AM)

I agree. Steven sounds like a good man (from reading his posts)




SomoneReal -> RE: May I ask, what does it mean to you to collar someone? (12/26/2010 1:09:37 PM)

It's just like a wedding ring in this lifestyle. 

"Do you take this slut to be your slave, etc....  And do you accept this collar with the promise to obey, respect, etc...."




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