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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/23/2010 9:19:19 PM

MissLily72

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Lol Lance thank you so much for the kind words and this

quote:

OMG! What a fabulous idea! If I got a similar tape from a sub I had "under my hand".... er,.... um,.... excuse me. I have to go take care of a .... er, personal matter that just came up.

. Omg had me in stitches. Yet another excellent visualization for me :)

Thank you Littlewonder and Frenzyandpoise two more great takes on the subject. Yes he likes humiliation as well so I expect it will be frequent in our relationship.

Such a wonderful experience this is for me. Seems so very liberating to ask questions and receive answers without the veil of vanilla that kept them inside me for so long.

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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/25/2010 5:49:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: Frenzyandpoise

It's a psychological control.

It's a breaking of their pride, and debasing them, stripping them to their core, and knowing what they want and what they need are very different things. If it's done all the time it loses the appeal and borders on to humiliation which others may be in to.

Query, how is debasing someone not humiliating?

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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/25/2010 7:08:17 PM

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There's pride, and then there's being proud.

It debases their pride, by stripping them of it. Let's use an example, I make them beg me for permission to suck my cock. Why would they beg me for that? There is an endless list of men that wouldn't need the submissive to beg for that privilege. So it becomes a question of--Is their pride going to interfere with their ability to get what they want? Or will they swallow their pride and beg me for permission? Is it humiliating in that instance? Possibly, but it's not done for the traditional humiliation kink.

A recurring theme with me is the psychological growth and thought process re-organization present in a power exchange relationship.

Hopefully that answers your question.

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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/26/2010 1:10:41 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissLily72

I am not experienced at begging. Maybe a few times as a child when I wanted something for Christmas, aways to no avail, lol. We were probably considered poor but I just did not realize it. My master likes this very much and I do not know where to begin to learn. I am thinking if I know more about what it does for the Dom it would help me to get my mind set in the right direction. It is important that I develop this skill so I can please my master. Any advice or direction would be appreciated. I am sure it is an art developed between partners but surely there are more like myself that really don't know what it is about or how it is done properly and pleasingly. I do not want to seem a fraud as I am sure my master would not accept that behavior from me.

Begging is like stroking the ego of someone who has low self confidence. In a true D/s relationship, there shouldn't be any begging.

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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/26/2010 1:36:40 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SomoneReal

Begging is like stroking the ego of someone who has low self confidence. In a true D/s relationship, there shouldn't be any begging.

What exactly is a "true D/s relationship"?

< Message edited by Frenzyandpoise -- 12/26/2010 1:39:17 PM >

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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/26/2010 1:54:36 PM

stef

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If you were Real, you wouldn't have to ask that...

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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/26/2010 2:02:42 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: stef

If you were Real, you wouldn't have to ask that...

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The point is, my interpretation of what is real, isn't his interpretation.

A submissive in to extreme pain who begs and pleads to stop, but doesn't safe word, isn't real?

A dominant who enjoys making their submissive beg for permission to orgasm isn't real?

Blanket statements that he used are invalid in any serious level of discussion, and only serve to cause confusion.

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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/26/2010 2:12:45 PM

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who made you grandpoobah and qualified you to tell others what "a real D/s dynamic is and isn't having?

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ORIGINAL: SomoneReal

In a true D/s relationship, there shouldn't be any begging.

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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/26/2010 2:14:52 PM

stef

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Frenzyandpoise

The point is, my interpretation of what is real, isn't his interpretation.

I'm quite aware of that. My reply was a commentary on his blanket statement, not your reply.

~stef

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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/26/2010 2:20:51 PM

Frenzyandpoise

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We seriously need to come together on the Internet and pick out a sarcasm font.

Sorry about that. lol

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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/26/2010 2:26:21 PM

littlewonder

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SomoneReal

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissLily72

I am not experienced at begging. Maybe a few times as a child when I wanted something for Christmas, aways to no avail, lol. We were probably considered poor but I just did not realize it. My master likes this very much and I do not know where to begin to learn. I am thinking if I know more about what it does for the Dom it would help me to get my mind set in the right direction. It is important that I develop this skill so I can please my master. Any advice or direction would be appreciated. I am sure it is an art developed between partners but surely there are more like myself that really don't know what it is about or how it is done properly and pleasingly. I do not want to seem a fraud as I am sure my master would not accept that behavior from me.

Begging is like stroking the ego of someone who has low self confidence. In a true D/s relationship, there shouldn't be any begging.

huh....I guess we're not true but ya know I'm ok with that. I'm a fake ass all the way around. Woohoo! I feel so liberated.

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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/26/2010 2:50:45 PM

stef

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Frenzyandpoise

We seriously need to come together on the Internet and pick out a sarcasm font.

Yeah, it tends to get lost in the shuffle a fair bit. No worries.

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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/26/2010 3:18:38 PM

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quote:

Begging is like stroking the ego of someone who has low self confidence. In a true D/s relationship, there shouldn't be any begging.

mmnnn, if you don't enjoy it, someone ain't doing it right. Begging to get my hands, mouth, etc wrapped around that erection is fun!

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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/26/2010 4:41:05 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

Begging is like stroking the ego of someone who has low self confidence. In a true D/s relationship, there shouldn't be any begging.

mmnnn, if you don't enjoy it, someone ain't doing it right. Begging to get my hands, mouth, etc wrapped around that erection is fun!

So right on katylied. We had to escape today because like so many others it was a crazy weekend/week, and we haven't had nearly enough alone time. We went to brunch, and throughout the entire meal he kept leaning in and whispering absolute filth in my ear until I was a puddle. Afterwards we snuck off to the office and after about 20 minutes of tormenting me with kisses, caresses, some well placed slaps, etc., I was a writhing mess of begging. Nothing is hotter after a period of deprivation than having him make me beg for what I want...okay today was more like need. The fact that he is big on detail only makes it hotter in a somewhat embarrassing way. None of that "fuck me please" begging, lol. He likes it really raw and spelled out.

Yep it was a good afternoon. :) Begging is hot, when it's real. That squirmy love/hate it feeling for me makes it even hotter. It's fucking primal sometimes....especially when he roughly grabs me by the face and makes me look him right in the face and reduces me to just begging wanton lust. Love it...

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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/26/2010 5:00:38 PM

Frenzyandpoise

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Someone's a happy girl Aynne88.....

That's exactly the begging I'm talking about!

Where you're just so involved in the moment of passion, that begging just adds to that level of anticipation and denial, he's making you twist and squirm and break down until the only thing you care about is getting that cock inside you.

Very erotic scene Aynne.

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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/26/2010 5:06:38 PM

Aynne88

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lol...yes I am having a little happy afterglow moment today :)

You summed it up perfectly Frenzyandpoise. It was and is one of my favorite feelings. Especially when it isn't something pre planned or done every time of course, I just think he know sometimes when begging is going to really be hot and it's generally after we haven't been able to go crazy for a few days and that only serves to heighten things. Like anything else, if it is used too frequently it loses it hot edge.

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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/26/2010 7:09:52 PM

MissLily72

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Thank you all so much. I think this is my favorite answer :)

quote:

So right on katylied. We had to escape today because like so many others it was a crazy weekend/week, and we haven't had nearly enough alone time. We went to brunch, and throughout the entire meal he kept leaning in and whispering absolute filth in my ear until I was a puddle. Afterwards we snuck off to the office and after about 20 minutes of tormenting me with kisses, caresses, some well placed slaps, etc., I was a writhing mess of begging. Nothing is hotter after a period of deprivation than having him make me beg for what I want...okay today was more like need. The fact that he is big on detail only makes it hotter in a somewhat embarrassing way. None of that "fuck me please" begging, lol. He likes it really raw and spelled out.

Yep it was a good afternoon. :) Begging is hot, when it's real. That squirmy love/hate it feeling for me makes it even hotter. It's fucking primal sometimes....especially when he roughly grabs me by the face and makes me look him right in the face and reduces me to just begging wanton lust. Love it...

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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/27/2010 8:01:52 AM

Aynne88

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Happy to oblige Miss Lily. Don't worry it will fall into place, I promise :)

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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/27/2010 8:09:48 AM

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Aynne, you are such a hottie.

Great description.

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RE: May I ask what begging means or does for you? - 12/27/2010 8:31:49 AM

phoenixmoonn13

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if i beg the chances are it will be a very long time before i get what i have just begged for master just doesn't like i would go as far as saying he hates it he likes me to ask straight and outright i may not get what i ask for but begging will defiantly result in a refusal.

except

when i am desperate to cum then he is quite happy to hear me beg all i want and i know he then makes me wait slightly longer but he does like it in this situation.

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