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To be Happy - 4/30/2006 1:19:08 PM   
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You know i thought some one already beat me to this.  i've had a rough couple of days.  The world keeps trying to rip the carpet out from under my feet.  Not verra nice do ya think?  Luckily for me, Himself comes to the rescue - sets the world right and cheers me up.  Wipes away the tears and hugs any harsh realities away.  Yeah, he's my knight. 

You know, it came to my attention.  This thing callied Happy.  Himself has a question he likes to ask people. "Which would you rather be - content or happy?" 

i realised where my happiness comes from.  <grins>  Now i'm trying to figure out if its a retard thing, or a detrimental thing.  It plainly comes from others.  Its what drives me most nuts about my mother.  Cant ever, no matter how hard i try, make that woman happy.  Frustrating disapointing, does my head in.  Had a friend ages ago who told me i need to stop trying as it wont ever happen.  So i do for the most part, but regress occasionally.  At times momentarily succeed.  Though, i'd love to get the over all happiness.  Its the driving force in my parenting and gets me walked over left and right and manipulated.  Just want her to be happy.  And Himself of course.  The things i do, because i think it'll make him happy even if it hurts me.  Or is hard for me, or is a struggle for me to do.  i do it, with my only thought on the pleasant outcome.  The happiness.

Its what gives me issues around her, depresses me or makes me angry.  When i see others not happy and dunno how to fix whatever the problem is.  <sigh> its a constant battle trying to make sure everyone is happy.

Yet, its not an entriely "giving" thing.  i see it as a selfish thing.  What makes ME happy is seeing the ones that matter to me happy.  Yet sometimes, i know i waiver between what i see is self preservation and others happiness.  Course i dunno.  Yes, i really dunno.. and it made so much more sense in my head.

What makees others happy?  Like really happy?  i dont mean those momentarily things that make you happy, but happiness as a whole.  Hmmm i hope others understand what i'm trying to get at here.
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RE: To be Happy - 4/30/2006 1:26:59 PM   
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Happiness is how people feel about themselves.

It cannot be imposed from without.

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RE: To be Happy - 4/30/2006 1:31:52 PM   
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In the long run happiness is the dream, content is reallity.

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RE: To be Happy - 4/30/2006 1:41:21 PM   
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I'll be happy when I my husband is not working 50 hours a week!
 
 I'll be happy once I find that "perfect" person!
 
I will be happy once I am a millionare!
 
I will be happy when my children start to listen!
 
I will be happy when my in-laws stay out of our business!
 
I think all of us are guilty of these lines or ones similiar at some point in our lives. It is so easy to expect others to "make" us happy.

It is natural to want better things for ourselves. Self improvement is not a bad thing. However, I don't think its realistic to put the weight of my happiness on anyone else or any one action.
 
My happiness is my responsiblity. Happiness is nothing but attitude. It is simply how I perceive myself, my life, the world around me.
 
Life is a journey,I make my journey what it is-good or bad. Now I can either keep saying if I had this or they do that I will be happy or I can simply be happy in the moment. In my journey.
 
Putting my happiness on someone else even my partner is unfair, after all it is through my eyes I see my fate and journey. I control that not him or anyone.
 
To me it's like staying sober or clean for someone else. In the end it's something I have to do for me. I can not realy on anyone else for my sobriety. So why should they be responsible for my happiness or unhappiness?
 
 
I choose to be happy in the moment.
 
Not sure if this answered your question but I tried to answer it the best I could.
 
Blessed Be,
 
Nika{Phoenix}


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RE: To be Happy - 4/30/2006 1:44:58 PM   
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Happiness is defined by yourself...it's a judgement.
Content, well that also is a judgement.
I am attempting to be where my attachment to all doesn't effect me. Where intention is carried through to what I believe is right and the calm comes from knowing I have no control over anyone else's karmic path...
I continue.

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RE: To be Happy - 4/30/2006 2:26:13 PM   
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I had a lesson on *giving* many years ago. I've always had a giving nature, and would literally give the shirt off my own back if I felt someone needed it, or they asked. I had also surrounded myself with needy people, who were always demanding my time emotionally and mentally, always needing something from me to make them whole somehow.

I was tired and worn out at one stage, I travelled to India and through some events that happened there I got the biggest insight on giving and what it means I've had in my life.

Upon arriving in India, beggars were everywhere, my first trip there was horrifying to me, people with leprosy and dirty bandages putting their arms through the taxi window when we were stopped beseaching me for money, being on the street and always being approached by beggars asking for money, they werent just asking for money, they were demanding my emotions and intellect pay them attention too, how could I not be involved emotionally and mentally when I saw these poor poor people begging, a little child looking into my eyes asking for food...how could I not be pulled this way and that emotionally and mentally?

Of course I gave, I gave them money, I gave them my compassionate thoughts and I have them my feelings that I wished everyone in the world was cared for....this was such a burden for me to carry as I knew that there would be no easy fixes in this world and I myself could do little to improve the lives of even a few, let alone millions of people who were struggling with providing themselves with the basic requirements of living, food and shelter...let alone being able to give them such a profound realisation as happiness.  

As time went on and the days that I was there turned into weeks and months, this interaction never stopped, wherever I went there were beggars, at one point I was chased down a street with a couple of other westerners by a crowd of beggars, it was such a terrifying experience. My stress level became high, I guess it was a combination of things, the huge culture shock I was experiencing, the unforgiving heat of an indian summer and the constant bombardment on me by such needy people, really shredded me apart. I was worn out physically, emotionally and mentally.

One day I was in a train station alone, can't remember why that was, might of wanted to go visit someplace that the people I was with had no interest in..but there I was standing on the platform alone, a beggar approached me, I took a step back from him, he held out his hand, I took another step back, I walked to the other end of the platform, he followed me, he kept beseeching me, almost arrogantly, pushy, I had no doubt by now that these beggars were used to westerners and knew exactly how to play them, his voice kept injecting itself in my mind " Give me, give me, give me"...I wouldnt meet his eyes, I wasnt falling for that trick..but still his begging voice intruded itself upon me...I could feel my thoughts screaming inside me "Leave me alone!! Leave me alone!!" after a few minutes I found my thoughts had made their way to my voicebox and I was screaming at the top of my lungs 'LEAVE ME ALONE!!!" I couldnt beleive it was my voice, I've never heard myself scream like that before, it felt like I could have destroyed the universe with that voice.

Some other indians on the platform came running and shooed the beggar away, all of which I was oblivious to, at that moment I was having this incredible realisation, my thoughts became so clear, I realised in that moment, I could not make everyone happy in the world, no matter how much I gave, it would never be enough, people were like leaches projecting their desires on you and wanting you to fulfill them in every which way yet never willing to do the work themselves they needed to be happy. There was nothing I could do for them. There was nothing anyone could do. Needy people are just that, needy, it's a state of mind and they willl take and take and take not caring at all about you whether that is physically, emotionally or mentally. There are always going to be needy people, unhappy people...and I just cant help them at the cost of my own welfare. I'd always seen that as a selfish way to think before that time..but from then on I saw really clearly that if I give all, Ive depleted myself of resources and just become a needy person myself, I just add one more person to the list of unhappy needy people. I could see that play out in all facets of life, emotionally, mentally and physically.

I still help people, I still desire for people to be happy but something changed that day. I no longer let it tax me, take from me...(well I'm conscious of the repercussion now..so when I slip I have the tools to step back once I realise what I'm doing and rememdy it within myself.). I realised compassion is something I can feel through understanding and not by having to drag myself into the neighbourhood of consciousness that the people I feel compassion for are living in.

What makes me happy now? Doing the best I can, then not worrying, being happy

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RE: To be Happy - 4/30/2006 2:32:14 PM   
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Goodness, that is a question indeed.
 
Happiness is the ability to look at one's life, one's self, one's virtues and vices and say "i'm proud to be me."
 
However that is accomplished, that is what i define as happiness.

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RE: To be Happy - 4/30/2006 2:36:39 PM   
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I look at me... and i'm happy... I look at my girls.. i'm happy... life is good... so i'm happy...

It's all in how you look at things.... not always happy every day... but most times... i'm good to go... as they say... content...


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RE: To be Happy - 4/30/2006 2:37:27 PM   
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I'd like to recommend a couple of books:
You can be happy, no matter what (Richard Carlson) and PRONOIA: The antidote to paranoia (Rob Brezney).

Being able to be happy, no matter what is going on around you -- not being in a position where someone else's mood controls your own joy -- is an important concept, and sustainable happiness is difficult without it.

That doesn't mean that we don't find joy in seeing those we care about happy -- but it does mean that we acknowledge that we can't "make" anyone happy... that they have to choose for themselves whether to respond to stimuli with joy or misery, with happiness or anger, or any other emotion for that matter. Because we don't control another's happiness, the only thing we -do- have control over is how -we- respond to the stimuli in our lives.

Lady Zephyr

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RE: To be Happy - 4/30/2006 3:04:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RiotGirl
What makees others happy?  Like really happy?  i dont mean those momentarily things that make you happy, but happiness as a whole.  Hmmm i hope others understand what i'm trying to get at here.


What makes me genuinely happy is being who I am.  Self-awareness, self-acceptance and self-actualization.  It is a process that is never ending and the closer that I come to having behaviors that demonstrate my inner-self, the happier I become. 

My relationship with my Lord and alandra is the first time in my adult life that I have been completely free to be me.  There are no pretenses, no illusions; just acceptance and encouragement to be myself.  We must be doing something right for us all because despite all the challenges of distance and time we are still together and very happy.  Today marks one year since I gave myself to him and each day just keeps slowly getting better.

Also a purring cat makes me happy; there is just something so incredibly peaceful about a content cat.

Knight's kyra

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RE: To be Happy - 4/30/2006 3:44:41 PM   
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I am happy with what I have.  And it took a wake up call 10 days ago for me to understand this.  I hope I can continue from this point and remember to be appreciative.  You don't know how blessed you are until that instant when you realize, with an ache, that it can all be very fleeting.

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RE: To be Happy - 4/30/2006 5:04:37 PM   
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I have two choices....I choose to be happy!

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RE: To be Happy - 5/2/2006 6:46:47 PM   
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Its what drives me most nuts about my mother.  Cant ever, no matter how hard i try, make that woman happy
Doing for parents is never about making them have any feeling in the actions. By thinking it is, well thats your mistake not your parents. Its about making yourself happy AND content that what youve done for them is from your heart and soul and is the right things to do REGARDLESS of how they look at your actions or act. If your driven crazy is from your own feelings and not the feelings of another. I think your stronger then your feelings riot, at least from what Ive read here of your posts. Look at the situation from you being in TOTAL control of your emotions thats generated from your actions towards others regardless of who they are and you will find that you no longer will seek for that appreciation factor from others because you will have allready received it from with in by your own self gratitude of accomplishment of your actions. Find your value of self from within riot and not seek it from without. This is where most fail in their self assteam and crush themselfs over nothing many times.   

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