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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/28/2010 7:57:15 AM

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DBG, in reading your posting history, this seems to be a job you have been complaining about for 2 years now.
There were many things you could have done in that time frame to better your position in future employment.
It's still not too late though. Add these along with the many other wonderful suggestions you were given.

1) Start saving money. If you had set aside 10 dollars a week, you would have accumulated a months pay,
which would allow you a little security in the time between leaving this job and getting another.

2) Those hours that you aren't able to sleep because you have to get up for a meeting don't have to
be wasted hours. Use them for researching other employment opportunities. Improve your typing skills.
Exercise your back. Write a good resume. There is nothing that makes a bad situation worse than refusing
to find any positives in it.

3) Use your free time during the week day to volunteer somewhere. Experience while in a voluntary position
still counts as experience, and you could be aquiring a new skill without having to pay for training.

4) With the many medical issues you seem to be facing, you should consider contacting your states
Vocational Rehabilitation Dept to see if they can assist you training for a position you are able to perform.
If you are still in Kansas, here is the link. http://www.srs.ks.gov/Pages/Default.aspx

You are doing more damage to yourself than your back issues have caused you by continuing to use
the word can't. You have to be pro-active. The world doesn't owe us any accommodations.

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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/28/2010 8:11:18 AM

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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

Is there anything you don't have an excuse for?

X-RAY clearly showing curved spine = excuse. Apparently, my chiropractor and I hallucinated at the same time.

Chiropractor telling me I can't work at a job that requires all day standing = excuse. Guess I was hearing things.

Diagnosed with pinched sciatic nerve several times = excuse. Must have been hearing things again.

Carpal tunnel = excuse. College professor could've been wrong about the cause of my hands going numb when taking notes.

It's all my fault. Happy now?

Diagnosed with Crohns disease and all large bowel removed = back at work withing 18 months despite spending 12 of those months in hospital
Skin Cancer with large amount of upper back skin and full depth wound = back in work after 2 months
Large brain tumour diagnosed and prognosis of 6 months = fight like hell to get back to normal
Brain tumour removed = back to work within 2 months and still running our company

Guess I could have used all of those to sit back and whinge and whine instead of doing what I did and make the very best of what has happened and be more determined to make our company even more sucessful. I still run the house, cook, clean do the laundry and look after Master as well as working 10 hour days despite having as little as 4 hours sleep on some nights due to the cancer treatment.

I guess unlike others I am just not the type to whinge constantly.

To the OP I suggest you get some form of counselling. I have yet to see you make any posts on these fora where you do not whinge and complain about all sorts of issues from your employment to your highly amusing views on sexually transmitted disease. Seriously grow up and get a grip.

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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/28/2010 9:24:42 AM

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DBG, This might be a good time to catch up on some sleep instead of being on 'collarme'.

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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/28/2010 9:55:28 AM

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Why not take the boss to Disneyland?

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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/28/2010 7:29:14 PM

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I have fibromyalgia, IBD, Degenerative Disc Disease, no curvature in my neck causing pinched nerves in my arms and legs and I am currently working 3 jobs. One of which is in residential supports where I work an 8 hr shift, a 16 hr shift and a 17.5 hr shift back to back as I have a weekend block, even my sleep time I am on call for plus the occassionaly meeting or training class. My other two jobs are both less than that and I walk to them, yep with all those health issues I walk everyday. Quit whining, get away from the chiropractor and decide to work.

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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/28/2010 7:38:05 PM

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This list sure is a sickly bunch.

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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/28/2010 8:14:13 PM

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So. OP. We have all given you everything (and more) that you've asked for. Besides sympathy of course because, frankly, i don't think you're deserving of any. It seems not many others think so, either. So, the ball is in your court, it always has been, the question now is:

What are you going to do?

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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/29/2010 11:14:02 AM

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Hmmmm.....

Point 1: Labor laws vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Check your own state laws.

Point 2: There are laws that govern proper rest periods and shift limitations for "critical personnel". i.e. Commercial drivers are required to take a break after a certain period and are not allowed to be on the road for longer than ten hours per day.
The NRC regulates "critical personnel" in that they can't work more than 16 hours ina 24 hour period, no more than 24 hours in a 48 hour period, and no more than 72 hours in a given 7 day period. Also, there must be a minimum 10 hour break between shifts. But.... "training time", "turnover time", and "meeting time" do NOT count as "work".
Gad I hate the fresh and perky managers that drag on an early morning meeting after you have been on shift for 12 hours. Make your point then STFU so we can go home.

A once a month sleep deprivation day is small change. But, you are right that such things increase the accident risk.

Stefan

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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/29/2010 11:48:02 AM

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I would say her answer to what she is going to do is: Profile not found.

Happy Mew Year All

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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/29/2010 12:01:33 PM

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She'll be back. Not too long ago she regaled us with stories of how she was dying from cancer.

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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/29/2010 12:01:53 PM

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She initiates a "poor me" thread like this regularly. When she does not get the responses she is looking for she vanishes. Until the next go round.

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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/29/2010 1:06:33 PM

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Profile not found.

We wuz mean

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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/29/2010 4:16:58 PM

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She'll be back. Not too long ago she regaled us with stories of how she was dying from cancer.

Perhaps we should start a poll to see who can guess what the next "poor me" topic will be.

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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/29/2010 6:22:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: susie

Diagnosed with Crohns disease and all large bowel removed = back at work withing 18 months despite spending 12 of those months in hospital
Skin Cancer with large amount of upper back skin and full depth wound = back in work after 2 months
Large brain tumour diagnosed and prognosis of 6 months = fight like hell to get back to normal
Brain tumour removed = back to work within 2 months and still running our company

I still run the house, cook, clean do the laundry and look after Master as well as working 10 hour days despite having as little as 4 hours sleep on some nights due to the cancer treatment.

I understand how your own situation makes it difficult to feel compassion for others. I don't know what your religious views are, but if you believe in any kind of afterlife, you really need to work on that. You have my sympathy whether you want it or not. Why does your Master expect you to cook, clean, run your house, and take care of him in your condition? He should be taking care of you. Have you asked your doctor to prescribe sleeping pills? A strong immune system is very important when fighting cancer. Not getting enough sleep weakens the immune system.

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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/29/2010 6:42:20 PM

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She'll be back. Not too long ago she regaled us with stories of how she was dying from cancer.

That's still pending due to other health issues, which is why I haven't posted on that thread recently. The situation with my cervix is serious enough that I qualified for temporary medicaid. I'll be cut off after my hysterectomy and won't be able to afford health insurance until 2014, so I'm trying to get everything taken care of before my hysterectomy.

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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/29/2010 7:14:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

She'll be back. Not too long ago she regaled us with stories of how she was dying from cancer.

That's still pending due to other health issues, which is why I haven't posted on that thread recently. The situation with my cervix is serious enough that I qualified for temporary medicaid.

You have mail dbg.

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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/29/2010 7:17:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: MercTech

Hmmmm.....

Point 1: Labor laws vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Check your own state laws.

Point 2: There are laws that govern proper rest periods and shift limitations for "critical personnel". i.e. Commercial drivers are required to take a break after a certain period and are not allowed to be on the road for longer than ten hours per day.
The NRC regulates "critical personnel" in that they can't work more than 16 hours ina 24 hour period, no more than 24 hours in a 48 hour period, and no more than 72 hours in a given 7 day period. Also, there must be a minimum 10 hour break between shifts. But.... "training time", "turnover time", and "meeting time" do NOT count as "work".
Gad I hate the fresh and perky managers that drag on an early morning meeting after you have been on shift for 12 hours. Make your point then STFU so we can go home.

A once a month sleep deprivation day is small change. But, you are right that such things increase the accident risk.

Stefan

I know my situation is small change, but many employed Americans have it worse than I do. My point is, there should be laws governing rest periods and shift limitations for ALL workers, not just a select few. The idea that employers shouldn't be responsible because they don't mandate how employees get to work or meetings is ridiculous. Most people who can provide transportation to others work too or they wouldn't have a vehicle. Public transportation isn't available 24 hours a day except in large cities. Some towns and small cities don't have public transportation at all and plenty of people work out of town. So workers are forced to endanger themselves and others on the road or get fired. Nobody can force someone to drive drunk because drinking is recreational, not mandatory. Employers can force employees to drive tired because employment is mandatory for most Americans. Drive tired or get fired.

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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/29/2010 7:59:23 PM

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"there should be laws governing rest periods and shift limitations for ALL workers, not just a select few."

I'm going to lay it on the line here. I make almost four times per hour what you make, and if the bossman calls me at four in the morning I will go even if impaired and driving illegally, if it is that important. I will do almost anything. But he would not risk me on something frivolous.

Do you give that kind of loyalty to your employer ? No. Would I look for a law with which to force my way on my employer ? No. You will never know shit until you grow up. And this is nothing. In my field I have made nine or ten times that, but that was for things that shall not be mentioned, although not illegal, they pushed the envelope. Get your ass into that position if you want a cushy job.

I'm sorry but this has gone on long enough. You can't do this because of that and you can't do that because of this. Nobody fucking cares. If you want to make sixty bucks an hour and walk in when you damn well please, get prepared to give something up. I don't mean sex. I mean skill. And you also must learn to sell yourself. You got a shit job I wouldn't take at gunpoint. Now get your tits straight here.

Get a skill, find something that matches your interest and persue it,. You still have time. When you can really do something, then you can open your mouth, until then you are a grunt. Get it ? Nobody tells me not to smoke at work, I was asked and complied because the boss would face a stiff fine if we got caught. I could've easily got rid of the twerp who complained, but I didn't want to. In fact he is off Thursdays so I can smoke at work on Thursday.

You want clout, earn it. You play house for a living. They say it is worth so much, BULLSHIT. I can get people to do that all day long. You want them to bend, you need something to offer.

That's bizness girl. That' the way it is. I am sorry, I did not make it that way.

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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/29/2010 10:30:16 PM

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I'm going to lay it on the line here. I make almost four times per hour what you make, and if the bossman calls me at four in the morning I will go even if impaired and driving illegally, if it is that important. I will do almost anything. But he would not risk me on something frivolous.

I'm glad your boss doesn't risk you on something frivolous like a meeting where they repeat the same things over and over.

Do you give that kind of loyalty to your employer ? No.

Actually, my employer seems impressed with me. My supervisor has seen what the house I work at looks like when I'm not working and shortly after my shift has ended. I have run errands off the clock to help her and worked many times on my nights off so she wouldn't have to. A few months ago, the executive director told me she's heard a lot of good things about me. The meeting situation has been resolved in my favor.

I'm sorry but this has gone on long enough. You can't do this because of that and you can't do that because of this.

I'm tired of can't do this because of that and can't do that because of this. I posted a thread awhile back asking for the names of effective inexpensive non-narcotic muscle relaxers so I'd know what to ask my doctor for. The whole idea behind that was to do something by reducing my work limitations. For trying to do something, I was accused of being a drug addict.

Nobody fucking cares. If you want to make sixty bucks an hour and walk in when you damn well please, get prepared to give something up. I don't mean sex. I mean skill. And you also must learn to sell yourself. You got a shit job I wouldn't take at gunpoint. Now get your tits straight here. Get a skill, find something that matches your interest and persue it,. You still have time.

Nobody fucking cares? You care alot about other people. I've seen it in many of your posts and I saw it on your thread about child support. If you didn't care, you wouldn't be jumping my ass for not getting a better job. I can be shy face to face, but I'm fairly good at selling myself. Telemarketers have to be. I worked in various call-centers for years. When one closed down, I'd go to another. But they were always closing down. I do have a shit job, but it's more stable than working in a call center. I definitely need to get a skill. I'm still researching to choose one. For every career I see that's supposed to be lucrative, there are threads with people claiming they have the degree and years of experience and they're complaining they don't get paid shit or they can't find jobs. Education is a gamble. Choose the wrong training and end up owing thousands in student loans and either unable to find a job or with a job that doesn't pay enough to live and pay off the loans. I'm not making excuses here. I'm being smart. I must get an education and I must make sure the result doesn't put me in a worse situation than I'm in now. I intend to do something. I just have to make sure I won't spend years having my wages garnished as a result.

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RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? - 12/29/2010 11:15:07 PM

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Termyn8or I have come up with an idea and would like to know what you think. How does a combination of paralegal and human resources sound? A bachelors in human resources is out of the question because of the requirement to pass statistics (advanced math is my worst subject but I'm good at basic math), but I found an 18 month program in human resources at a private trade school. I've heard one needs a bachelors to start out as a human resource manager, but I thought being a paralegal might get me in the door and enable me to move up fairly fast (paralegal - laws reguarding benefits and such). Do you think that would work or is it a bad idea?

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