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LadyMorgynn -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 10:52:50 AM)
'cause men already had their chance for the last 2006 years, and screwed things up royally. In fact they're still fucking it up.... after all, the First Asshole wasn't content with making himself a "war" president, now he's just looking for an excuse to be a nuclear war president. Do I think women could do better? HELL yes! Goddess knows, we sure couldn't do WORSE!

NeedToUseYou -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 11:00:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vaj85uk IMHO - Men have played at supremecy for a long time and now it's Womans turn. Male supremecy has, in general, become a joke as their supremecy is inches long and lasts for an hour at most ... Female supremecy, however, is a frame of mind and the Dommes I have met don't "play" they are what they are and know their bounds and are empathetic to the sub's needs. Just because you can't control your anger at being insulted doesn't mean you have to insult every dom on the planet. Isn't that just as bad as someone disrespecting dommes or females. quote: Male supremecy has, in general, become a joke as their supremecy is inches long and lasts for an hour at most. So I guess men in your view are just cocks with no brain but.... The universally enlightened female domme is.... quote: female supremecy, however, is a frame of mind and the Dommes I have met don't "play" they are what they are and know their bounds and are empathetic to the sub's needs. LOL, Thanks for the input

NeedToUseYou -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 11:17:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyMorgynn 'cause men already had their chance for the last 2006 years, and screwed things up royally. In fact they're still fucking it up.... after all, the First Asshole wasn't content with making himself a "war" president, now he's just looking for an excuse to be a nuclear war president. So you are attributing everything accomplished in the last 2006 years to men. Thanks, we've done alot then, went from barely scraping by, with virtually nothing, to computers, skyscrapers, Jets, landed on the moon. Well, if it's the womens turn you better get off the computer and start now... quote: Do I think women could do better? HELL yes! Goddess knows, we sure couldn't do WORSE! LOL, so men suck, woman good. in cavegirl speech. We're so horrible.

LostLenore -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 11:30:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: naughtynick I just find sexism or superiority over another gender is as bad as racism. It's like me saying white people are better than black people. Women are allowed to hate the other gender but males are not. Women are allowed to shoot a male but a male is not allowed to shoot a female. Thanks to feminism, this crap is acceptable. There is in contemporary American culture a tolerance for male-bashing which is, as someone implied, a feminist backlash against the historical oppression of women. I don't condone sexism in the real world on either side, but I understand that playing with gender stereotypes and taboo terminology can be freeing and cathartic within the safe boundaries of a negotiated scene. That's why I refer to female supremacy in my profile. I don't believe every woman is better than every man, but I do think women have deserved higher status in each era (including our own) than society afforded them. Believe it or not, the goal of feminism is not to tear men down but to lift women up so they can enjoy the same benefits. Of course some people see that as one and the same because the idea of female equality threatens their security or sense of superiority. I've met some nasty feminists, don't get me wrong, but I've also known people who were disgustingly caught up in their own race or religious issues. Feminism does not "allow" women to hate or shoot men any more than gay pride encourages homosexuals to "convert" straight people or go forth and spread HIV.

BitaTruble -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 11:33:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: naughtynick You may find this link interesting. It will open up in a pdf file. www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawreview/downloads/304/kelly.pdf Interesting review. What I found very telling were the facts presented which site 23 - 73% of violence committed by women to their spouses was retalitory in nature and that effect, IE severity of violence was washed away with some rather specious argument. To whit, severity in violence was not the purpose of the review thus giving equal weight to a slap as to an injury which landed one in the hospital. The author did state that men were 6 times more likely than women to indulge in violence which lead to severe injury which match the conclusions given by the Department of Justice. Thanks for the link. Celeste

LostLenore -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 11:38:18 AM)
Does anyone else think we Dommes ought to go together and buy NeedToUseYou a nice pair of leather gloves? In such lovely walking weather, a guy like him probably needs to protect his knuckles.

SweetEscravo -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 11:40:12 AM)
I think it is because the world has been dominated by men for so long, women are now trying to control it. It's similar to what has happened racially- it's okay to be racist towards white people because years ago they were in control. It seems to me that feminists act like other "minorities"- claiming to be put down, or victimised.

LigatioAmor -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 11:40:48 AM)
I think neither gender will accomplish much of anything in its own supremacy. The divide some of you manifest between fellow humans is rather depressing.

NeedToUseYou -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 11:47:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble quote: ORIGINAL: naughtynick You may find this link interesting. It will open up in a pdf file. www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawreview/downloads/304/kelly.pdf Interesting review. What I found very telling were the facts presented which site 23 - 73% of violence committed by women to their spouses was retalitory in nature and that effect, IE severity of violence was washed away with some rather specious argument. To whit, severity in violence was not the purpose of the review thus giving equal weight to a slap as to an injury which landed one in the hospital. The author did state that men were 6 times more likely than women to indulge in violence which lead to severe injury which match the conclusions given by the Department of Justice. Thanks for the link. Celeste Not trying to get involved to much, but couldn't it be that generally when a man hits someone it causes more damage than when a women does that same action. I'm about 210 and slightly over 6 foot tall. If I hit a 5 foot 4" 130 pound woman she's probably going to have some damage. But if she hit me, It'd be highly unlikely it'd do more than bruise or at the very least I could subdue her, or LOL run!!! eeeek. So, really, I think it has a lot less to do with intent to injure, rather it would seem to be more about how easy it is to injure another, which I'm sure accounts for at least a large portion of the discrepancy. So, I'm sure it's true men send more women to the hospital or cause severe physical harm in spats of anger. But really, isn't it reasonable to assume, that is caused by women not being easily able to do the same to men? Generally speaking of course, I've seen a few women that were bigger than me, and we aren't talking fat either, but for 99% of the population this holds true.

BitaTruble -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 11:57:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LigatioAmor I think neither gender will accomplish much of anything in its own supremacy. The divide some of you manifest between fellow humans is rather depressing. I'm not a female supremacist if that's what you're implying, but neither will I sit back and allow specious, unsubstantiated argument to ensue when it comes to violence against woman or anyone else for that matter. I'm a survivor of it, so speak with some personal experience and back it up with substantial site references from places like the Justice Department and the CDC, not a law review with an agenda or a mens-right website, also with an agenda to prove how bad and violent women are. Women commit crimes just like men, but the frequency of the crimes, the severity of the crimes are far outweighed by our 'brothers' and no amount of juggling numbers or pulling up statistics from websites with agendas is going to change the facts. The scales ARE unbalanced when it comes to violence perpetrated on and by women. That's a fact. I am not causing the divide of the two genders in this area, merely pointing out there is one. Celeste

NeedToUseYou -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 12:00:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LostLenore Does anyone else think we Dommes ought to go together and buy NeedToUseYou a nice pair of leather gloves? In such lovely walking weather, a guy like him probably needs to protect his knuckles. Ah that respectful high level domme intellect shining bright. Why do you insult me when I never spoke to you? Oh, I get it, because I disagreed with something you agreed with. Thanks, look foward to more, next time though I'll bite back with similiar insults. I guess you'll call me another derogatory term at that time, and still not state what your problem is.

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 12:07:15 PM)
Nevermind.... Just laughing M

MHOO314 -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 12:09:31 PM)
I think your example of brute strength is archaic and should be shelved for this discussion---for it is no longer brute strength that rules----if it was war it would be nuclear weapons and My long red nails can push the button as easily as you can. What we need to do here is realize that we need to stop the superiority crap----cuz darlin if the Iranians or the Muslems or some other deteremined nation takes over the world while we are squabbling, your superiority or Mine won't mean shit---guys cry just as much uneder torture as women--NOW.. what we need to do is realize that whilst we are squabbling Ladies and Gentlemen, China is growing as the center of wholesale manufacturing and distribution--predicted to be the Worlds leader in 3 years, India is the current leading distributor of software and software development in the world, it is also the number one location for customer service help desks. The black widows is a group of Russian suicide bombers---cultures that men were traditionally "superior" have put aside cultural differences to survive---to grow, to overtake America--so uhm hon, I want to stand next to SOMEONE with a brain and strength that will stand toe to toe with Me to bring about change---and I dont give a damn if that person stands or sits to pee--

Happilymarried -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 12:12:29 PM)
I personally would like to find the person who started the woman's revolution and smack them. Their intent may have been to move women forward, but all they actually did was take women from the home and put them into jobs outside the home. Oh but wait, we still have the home and the kids to care for. So, they basically fought for women to have the right to work 2 full-time jobs. I may take a hit for this; but here goes, women would have been much better off in the home baking cookies and looking pretty for her husband. I was really born out of my time era. I should have been born in the 1800's, and I would have fought against feminism.

BitaTruble -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 12:12:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble quote: ORIGINAL: naughtynick You may find this link interesting. It will open up in a pdf file. www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawreview/downloads/304/kelly.pdf Interesting review. What I found very telling were the facts presented which site 23 - 73% of violence committed by women to their spouses was retalitory in nature and that effect, IE severity of violence was washed away with some rather specious argument. To whit, severity in violence was not the purpose of the review thus giving equal weight to a slap as to an injury which landed one in the hospital. The author did state that men were 6 times more likely than women to indulge in violence which lead to severe injury which match the conclusions given by the Department of Justice. Thanks for the link. Celeste Not trying to get involved to much, but couldn't it be that generally when a man hits someone it causes more damage than when a women does that same action. I'm about 210 and slightly over 6 foot tall. If I hit a 5 foot 4" 130 pound woman she's probably going to have some damage. But if she hit me, It'd be highly unlikely it'd do more than bruise or at the very least I could subdue her, or LOL run!!! eeeek. So, really, I think it has a lot less to do with intent to injure, rather it would seem to be more about how easy it is to injure another, which I'm sure accounts for at least a large portion of the discrepancy. So, I'm sure it's true men send more women to the hospital or cause severe physical harm in spats of anger. But really, isn't it reasonable to assume, that is caused by women not being easily able to do the same to men? Generally speaking of course, I've seen a few women that were bigger than me, and we aren't talking fat either, but for 99% of the population this holds true. That point is addressed in the two sources I offered earlier. A woman is much more likely to pick up a weapon and use it, so size doesn't, really, matter in this case. ;) Intent to injure and/or lack of control have less to do with the size of the participants and more to do with the availability of the weapon. When someone is enraged, they are intent on causing injury when it gets to that point. Men don't mind getting their hands dirty and women don't mind gutting someone with a knife but even with the weapons, men still cause severe injury at a rate 6 times that of women. Celeste

NeedToUseYou -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 12:15:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MHOO314 I think your example of brute strength is archaic and should be shelved for this discussion---for it is no longer brute strength that rules----if it was war it would be nuclear weapons and My long red nails can push the button as easily as you can. What we need to do here is realize that we need to stop the superiority crap----cuz darlin if the Iranians or the Muslems or some other deteremined nation takes over the world while we are squabbling, your superiority or Mine won't mean shit---guys cry just as much uneder torture as women--NOW.. what we need to do is realize that whilst we are squabbling Ladies and Gentlemen, China is growing as the center of wholesale manufacturing and distribution--predicted to be the Worlds leader in 3 years, India is the current leading distributor of software and software development in the world, it is also the number one location for customer service help desks. The black widows is a group of Russian suicide bombers---cultures that men were traditionally "superior" have put aside cultural differences to survive---to grow, to overtake America--so uhm hon, I want to stand next to SOMEONE with a brain and strength that will stand toe to toe with Me to bring about change---and I dont give a damn if that person stands or sits to pee-- Is this directed at me, if it is and you look back on the thread, you will see that only my first post said anything about men generally being more mature, and that was only in regards to the workplace. Every other comment was said in relation to someone disrespecting males in general. Yeah, I'm not a supremacist one way or the other, I think it has more to do with how your raised than anything. But I'm not just going to not say anything when I see gross generalizations of men being bad.

ClassAct2006 -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 12:24:46 PM)
In most of the world men and women don't have equal rights under the law. There is much to be done by all of us to seek to achieve that equality everywhere. In the US/UK there are still problems for many women, although things are better than they were. There are many countries where women are not by law allowed to drive, are murdered if someone rapes them and have no right to vote, are circumcised routinely and have no property rights. On the point of the thread, if there's some category for female supremists then I see no reason why there shouldn't be for men either. As to who is better - men or women - I never think it's helpful to get into those debates. I love men and they can be very different from women and hard to understand sometimes but it's fun to try. I probably feel as uncomfortable as a lot of men and women about the advertisements we have in the UK and presumably the US where a big joke is made about some male incompetence, although I can see we probably need another 5000 years of that against men before any score is even slightly evened.... As a submissive woman I personally prefer controlling men who know best and who in a sense are better than I am, otherwise I'm not comfortable handing over that power to control and decide.

philosophy -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 12:30:01 PM)
..i have watched men and women screw things up.....and i've also seen both men and women snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.......on the whole men are stronger physically than women, but i'm not stronger than Brigitte Nielson........and theoretically women are better at withstanding physical stress than men, but astronauts can take more g's than my mum............men have a brain structure that theoretically means they are less good than women at multitasking, but i'm a puppeteer who can quite happily operate two puppets while acting the voice for a third........the problem with the whole of this thread is the idea that there ever can be some form of supremacy....as if a gender can somehow 'win'........i get annoyed when Gor zealots try to tell me that a man submitting to a woman is some form of aberration, but no more annoyed than when anyone says so......i'm sure there are men who will strike me as neanderthal who find the idea of women voting makes them faintly uneasy.......nevertheless we all have the right to exist...it follows that no-one is supreme, therefore to talk of any form of gender-based supremacy as a state to be desired is foolish

NeedToUseYou -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 12:31:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble That point is addressed in the two sources I offered earlier. A woman is much more likely to pick up a weapon and use it, so size doesn't, really, matter in this case. ;) Intent to injure and/or lack of control have less to do with the size of the participants and more to do with the availability of the weapon. When someone is enraged, they are intent on causing injury when it gets to that point. Men don't mind getting their hands dirty and women don't mind gutting someone with a knife but even with the weapons, men still cause severe injury at a rate 6 times that of women. Celeste Sorry, guess I was distracted, will reread. Thanks Anyway, got to go.

submisdemeanor -> RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supremacy? (5/1/2006 1:02:38 PM)
i very much agree with happilymarried. when women left the house and the role of parenting to daycare givers and the school systems, the family began to fall apart. look at the number of divorces and the huge number of children who are having behavioral and academic difficulties. everyone is working to exhaustion, but not much is being accomplished, certainly not the nurturing of a happy, healthy family. no wonder Men walk out of marriages and away from their families. old fashioned as this will sound, i still believe that the Man/Father should be the head of the household and the woman/submissive should be there to respect, to serve, and to accent His life. and children need to see the the roles of Man/woman modeled on a daily basis. if a woman wants to have a career, and bless her if she does, then she should think long and hard before bringing children into the picture for society to raise. just my humble opinion.

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