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DaddysInkedSlut -> RE: Comments, please (12/29/2010 2:59:09 PM)

OP
Much like you I list certain criteria in my profile, which include many of the same things as yours. To me these things not being present or being present are automatic deal breakers. Why not be upfront about them. Not rude, not confrontational but honest about who / what you are looking for. I do think you could work it a little different and it will come across very differently and yet say the same thing. Often times it is not what we say but how we say it.

Good luck!




DaddysInkedSlut -> RE: Comments, please (12/29/2010 3:00:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Do you mind if I ask you a question? 

If you're in the Atlanta area, why are you going the online route?

There is a thriving BDSM community in the Atlanta area with several munches that meet at various days through the week.  ARM (Atlanta Regional Munch) is held the first Saturday of the month at 1763.  There is also SELF, DomCon, and other major events that are held right there in your city.  Have you taken any of these opportunities to get to know people?




I'm not the OP but as someone who isn't a fan of large groups or even small groups of strangers munches are not always comfortable for alot of people. As odd as it seems to some people, myself included online is a much more realistic avenue to meet people one on one.




LadyPact -> RE: Comments, please (12/29/2010 3:15:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DaddysInkedSlut
I'm not the OP but as someone who isn't a fan of large groups or even small groups of strangers munches are not always comfortable for alot of people. As odd as it seems to some people, myself included online is a much more realistic avenue to meet people one on one.

Yes, and if the OP has such a social phobia, he can say so.  At the same time, a lot of folks don't know there's another option available besides staying behind the screen.

It should also be pointed out that it's possible to work around not wanting to be thrust into 'groups'.  Many groups will have folks that specifically volunteer to meet new folks who have concerns about meeting the whole group at once or will have greeters so that will take the time to help the new person meet the others.

I mean no offense to you, but it's very hard for Me to identify on this particular subject.  I'm very outgoing and do not fear groups in any way. 




DaddysInkedSlut -> RE: Comments, please (12/29/2010 3:28:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact


I mean no offense to you, but it's very hard for Me to identify on this particular subject.  I'm very outgoing and do not fear groups in any way. 


Im not offended at all, but the reality is munches and groups are not for everyone and not everyone is looking to be active in the scene.




LadyPact -> RE: Comments, please (12/29/2010 3:35:20 PM)

True, but unfortunately, those who don't like the idea are so quick to shut it down that, sometimes, folks who just don't know don't realize the options are out there.

In My opinion, we do a disservice when we don't let others know that other ways might be available, too.




SexyBossyBBW -> RE: Comments, please (12/29/2010 4:26:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
those who don't like the idea are so quick to shut it down that, sometimes, folks who just don't know don't realize the options are out there.

In My opinion, we do a disservice when we don't let others know that other ways might be available, too.
I am a lot like DaddysInkedSlut, in that I was so uncomfortable about attending munches/joining groups, that I almost literally had to have someone holding my hand, when I attended.   I still don't care much for the public thing, though I may still on occasion force myself out there.

I do however agree, that it is helpful to to let those that don't know, there is that option, and usually, someone is willing to hold his/her hand, if needed.   M




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Comments, please (12/29/2010 6:26:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DaddysInkedSlut


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact


I mean no offense to you, but it's very hard for Me to identify on this particular subject.  I'm very outgoing and do not fear groups in any way. 


Im not offended at all, but the reality is munches and groups are not for everyone and not everyone is looking to be active in the scene.


Also, groups tend to take on a certain "group personality," and not everyone feels compatible with the dynamics of their local group. I like a lot of the people in my local scene, but have absolutely nothing in common with most of them in terms of relationship interests. So there's very little point in trying to find a potential partner at my local munches. The only times that's worked for me, I was lucky enough to meet someone who was attending the munch for the first time herself, and in each case, it was the only munch that particular woman ever attended. Local communities are one tool in the toolbox, but they're not the be-all end-all.




ANewMe30075 -> RE: Comments, please (12/29/2010 7:41:23 PM)

Actually collarme is just one of many venues I'm involved with. As far as others, I have a membership at 1763, on occasion I go to ARM munch, BITCH events at 1763, been to the Cherokee munch, Dekalb munch at the Peachtree Diner, North Fulton Munch etc, so yes I do get around. I have been to DomCon, SELF, on occasion ventured to the Eagle, but only for the "aire" of sexuality - it is so highly charged on certain nights but only a spectator. I'm really only interested in woman.

I've been around Atlanta since the days of the old PEP house (forerunner of 1763) and always felt at that time the community was much more open and friendly to all. Then I dropped out for a few years & when returned I felt it was a way different community, maybe larger but not necessarily better.

But again, these are my perceptions, Iwould suspect many might say I'm full of shit, but I also think many others would say he's right on the mark.




mummyman321 -> RE: Comments, please (12/29/2010 7:44:34 PM)

I have nothing against group muches but they are not for me. The group munches in my area are nothing but a couples meet and greet. I am not seeking a couple and there are no single Dommes at the munches. So using the munches to network and find a Domme for me doesn't really work. I think this is more a location thing as I have been to munches in other areas where there were a lot more single people. But for where I am now, its not a great place to find a Domme




ANewMe30075 -> RE: Comments, please (12/29/2010 7:56:15 PM)

Actually regaurding this line "Many groups will have folks that specifically volunteer to meet new folks who have concerns about meeting the whole group at once or will have greeters so that will take the time to help the new person meet the others". I would say specifically that at groups or at clubs in the past 2 years that I went to not knowing anyone, I have never recalled anyone approaching me from that direction. Typically I have to reach out to some one. The same at munches, typically you introduce yourself, your orientation etc, I then tend to find on mentioning "male sub" are then ignored.

A few years ago, esp at the PEP House, it was completely the opposite. People would introduce themselves, inquire as to what I thought of the happenings etc.




LPslittleclip -> RE: Comments, please (12/29/2010 9:01:27 PM)

your profile does seem to be more a dominants one the tone is a very strong one.
now as far as the community in Atlanta i was always welcomed in every event i attended. you mentioned that you attend the 1763 club if you ask there those that will aid you.  while in the Atlanta vicinity i traveled out several hundred miles to visit other groups and events. i was active on several sites as well.  i met many in the age range that you stated and am puzzled that you say there are none for you.
if the groups are problem then be more active on the net and on more sites, volunteer at events helps a great deal before the groups show up this shows willingness and interest as well as meeting folks.




GreedyTop -> RE: Comments, please (12/29/2010 11:00:32 PM)

~fr~

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I basically abhor when men & woman refer to it as pussy, clit or cunt or whatever. Such crude words for such a beautiful work of nature and art. It defines a woman & what makes her special, to be cherished and loved at least to me


I'm really glad you added that qualifier.

Personally, though, I find the underlined comment to be very off-putting.  There is more to me than my genitals, and to have someone define me based on that alone (which is what your statement comes across as, to me) means immediate incompatibility.




CynthiaWVirginia -> RE: Comments, please (12/30/2010 12:57:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ANewMe30075

I've been on collarme for awhile, but hadn't done any posts, so I figured I'd start with this one, received a email on my profile,

From: Shall remain nameless

Dated: 12/18/10 8:42 AM

I suspect a more fleshed out profile that is less in your face confrontational might get better results.


Anyone care to comment?


So...what is there to comment on?  Many agreed with her, and yet you prefer the confrontational style you have chosen.  If this is what you want to do, if it works for you, then stand by it. 

I don't see pussy as a derogatory term.  I also have pussy cats...who are a delight to me. 

 
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So thats why my profile is what it is. The woman who made the comment was one from approx a year ago, we had communicated a few times but she just disappeared. Don't know why, maybe something I said or didnt say, I reviewed the emails seemed might be a start of a connection, so looked good. But she just disappeared, with no indication why. So I was surprised, out of the blue, she posted the comment about my profile.


How many of us walk away from someone who interests us, is available, and compatible?  You seem to want to be accepted as you are...but are very set in your ways.  Maybe your ways were not her ways.

If you wanted us to tell you she was way out of line and being unfair... 

 
I will not say anything against her...but think she was being kind to say what she did. 

If this woman was from a year ago, then I wonder if she even knew you were the same man, as this profile you are using began on 8/15/2010, and I didn't see your giving your old profile name in your new profile or journal entry.

You already seem to have your bases covered with lots of BDSM dating sites, munches, and dungeon memberships, so...good luck with your search.




SlaveRMneeded -> RE: Comments, please (12/30/2010 1:20:47 PM)

Did you remember to say thank you to her for the advice? Or, did you, in a very unsubmissive manner, instead, come and post on the forum, hoping to get that lovely feeling of self righteous vindication from the comments which would point out the error of her ways - while using her ID in a post, which, last I heard, is terribly, terribly against the rules of this site and is, therefore, more proof of your hostile inability to function in a submissive capacity?

Not enough, on top of all the other comments which are in agreement with the first person's advice, to give  you a clue that your profile needs to change, for your own good? Well, then, let's break it down, shall we?

Not convinced to change your profile, yet? Not even with all the comments that are rather more in favor of her viewpoint than yours? Tsk tsk. Well, let's break it down, shall we?

Hello All < -- Repugnant to many, that A/all crap. However, that is more personal choice than anything else. Just thought you should know, because I haven't known one real dominant male or female, personally (as in, in real life) who feels the arrogant need to alter the entire English language to suit their whims, yet.

  • ************ UPDATE *********  < --- This, below, is not an update. An update is something NEW, such as that you have found someone, or have given up trying to find someone. This is emphasis. Which is a good reason for it to be in red if it must be, but, not actually a good reason for it to exist at all. And, the red is just drawing attention to what is really just a little outburst. Most of us have gotten frustrated and had them; not all of us have used stars and red coloring to make sure they would be noticed by all who passed by.
  • I am only interested in r/t people. <-- Way to cut out EVERYONE online.
  •  And no one under 40 < -- Something that is  between you and your bulk mail folder, and/or, which should have been specified, most politely, on your profile to begin with.
  • , or not local. <--- Ditto!
  • So please leave me alone, no emails or chat requests. Got it? <-- This is addressed to no one, so it includes everyone. And, everyone who is a decent person will not appreciate the insult or the petulant, arrogant attitude, them knowing they also get really stupid messages and chat requests, and they knowing they do not wish to be lumped in with the people who send them.
  • I'm looking for a life partner to share various vanilla interests and other interests listed below
  • . I am of a very experimental nature, so have the usual limits.
  •  I am d/d free and want to stay that way. Safe, sane & consensual only. 
Three ' I' statements in a row, from a submissive? Not good. And, the whole tone, besides the dreadful over-use of 'I', indicates how you want to be served, not what you can do for those who wish to be served. It's not wrong to want things, but, if you are submissive, it should show in your attitude. But, we are all supposed to orient ourselves to your way of thinking and know that what is "the usual limits" for you is now law? There are no usual limits, and we should not have to beg to know what yours are - if they are important to you, affect your choice of who to serve, that is important information to give on a profile!


  • I am not out in any way, outside of the vanilla activities I enjoy < ----, I have no idea what this means. If you are not in any way outside of your vanilla activities, then you are not submissive and you should be on some other site. So, I am guessing this means something else- but, what? 
  • the ones below are of a very private nature. < -- Isn't most everything that is posted on this site, by real people rather than bots, of a very private nature and something we are all in tacit agreement not to go bandying about throughout the free world? I don't help you lose your job, you don't help me lose mine - like that?
  •  Consequently I have not posted a picture,  <-- And, yet, I have, and most of the other people, even the ones who are bots, have. What is a picture going to do? Do you really think anyone who is on this site knows how to find your family or co-workers and report you for being on this site? And, that, if they did, they wouldn't be in the same boat? What are they going to do - tell people while they were on some pervert site, they saw you there, too? Doubtful! And, anyway, a photo of a face - no dildo in it, no markings that say "I am the sub slut of Mistress Vagina" or whatever, means nothing. Anyone could find it any place and be lying about where it came from. However, it is very polite to the people who are sincerely looking, to let them see what you look like. So, to not post a photo, smacks of arrogance and/or gross insincerity.
  •  if you are truly interested, please contact me.  < --Oh, please Sir, may I? Rather than you reading my profile and deciding, as the person who is going to have the most risk to both flesh and finances, if you are interested enough to present yourself for consideration? Can I do all the leg work on this potential relationship, please? Please!
That all being said, here goes.

1. The metaphysical, wicca & possibly the occult. Exporing tantra & chakras.
2. Experimenting with hypnosis, various trance like states, various aromas, chanting etc.
3. I am curious, bisexual, so open to all.< -- Then, again, what is this talk of limits?  Either you are open to all, or you have the usual limits. What are your limits? I've read something about them, twice, now, and I still have zero clue.
4. I have always been obedient to woman, I'm curious about slavery. My natural state seems to be that of subservience.< --- So, you are obedient to woman - one or all? Even those under 40? And, if you are only obedient to women, how does that work with you being bisexual and open to all? Very confusing stuff, that. And, if your natural state is subservience, why have you yet to mention anything but your own needs?
4. Sensory deprivation.
5. Leather, love the feel, smell & texture of it.
6. Chastity and/or orgasism control.
7. Being smooth from the neck down.
8. I sometimes wear spandex tights under my work clothes, I love how it smooths my pubic region out, the constriction, and how my clothes slide so easily over it.
9. I am curious about bringing my feminine side out, so open to feminization.
10. I am curious about experimenting with s&m. <--Duh! Repetitive. Plus, uhm, that's why we are all here, so, it kind of goes without saying. Or, it should.
11. As relates to smoothness, I would also like to explore latex.
12. This may sound rather odd, but at some point I feel I would like to be owned. <-- Repetitive. Curious about slavery is the same thing. So is most submission. This is a better way to put it,though. Only, why would it sound odd to someone who wants to own people? Who are you writing this profile to? Your co-workers, your mother, or us? And, if you feel like you would like to be owned, why are you telling everyone what your preferences are? Slaves are not allowed many, as a general rule.

So if I sound intriguing, I'd love to hear from you. They type of woman I am searching is hopefully proactive, searching thru the profiles here for what pleases her as opposed to just looking in her in box.< --Again with expecting the woman to do the leg work. (sigh) Well, I can tell you, I love a good sub/slave type who not only tells me that he has read my journal entries, but, who proves it by telling me his thoughts on them. Then, I, very proactively, go and read his - if I have not already done so.

And remember, I'm looking for a long term partner, with interests we can enjoy together as a couple  outside of our "alternative" ones. < -- You really do sound quite demanding. Are you sure you are not a Dom?

The entire profile, as a whole, says "Bow to my will and I might allow you the reward of spanking me and thusly pleasuring my behind." Seriously!




ANewMe30075 -> RE: Comments, please (12/30/2010 3:17:20 PM)

At the risk of being even more confrontational, SlaveRMNeeded - Who the fuck are you? You arrogant bitch. Why don't you go read you own profile? Do your own "I" count? Why don't you go find a job and support yourself.




Rule -> RE: Comments, please (12/30/2010 3:21:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ANewMe30075
I've been on collarme for awhile, but hadn't done any posts, so I figured I'd start with this one, received a email on my profile,

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I suspect a more fleshed out profile that is less in your face confrontational might get better results.



Anyone care to comment?

The polite thing to do, is to respond in this way: Thank you for your kind and informative suggestion. I will consider it.




Rule -> RE: Comments, please (12/30/2010 3:24:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
Your profile's first paragraph started off "I am only interested in... " and then closes with "Got it?"  Do you REALLY need me to tell you that that is confrontational?  I didn't bother to read any more after that.

And why not a pic of you?

It floors me that evidently you need advice on how to be submissive from a Dom,. but, you now have someone who was interested in you enough to write.  So write her back, and thank her for her input.  Politely, no snark.  Implement her uggestions, and then ask her how the changes work for her.  And you might wanna ask yourself why you got helpful criticism, and did nothing about it for ten days, and then asked a bunch of Internet strangers what to do.    Unless you've got Dommes swarming about you, respond positively to the ones you ARE in contact with.  Listen to them, act on what they say, and second guess them only if you need to.

I agree. For once I will generalize excessively: DS always gives good advice.




DaddysInkedSlut -> RE: Comments, please (12/30/2010 3:34:42 PM)

Three ' I' statements in a row, from a submissive? Not good. And, the whole tone, besides the dreadful over-use of 'I', indicates how you want to be served, not what you can do for those who wish to be served. It's not wrong to want things, but, if you are submissive, it should show in your attitude. But, we are all supposed to orient ourselves to your way of thinking and know that what is "the usual limits" for you is now law? There are no usual limits, and we should not have to beg to know what yours are - if they are important to you, affect your choice of who to serve, that is important information to give on a profile!

@ SlaveRMneeded

Using "I" statements makes someone unsubmissive? Oh, dear heart you are so damn cute!

I-Statements give our partner or potential partner(s) information about us, and they do it in a way that's far less threatening than the alternative you - statements. I- statements are an indivudual owning their feelings, their thoughts, their needs, their wants. I - statements are a rather healthy form of communicating those things IMO.

I dont think the OP is asking anyone to orient themselves to his way of thinking, I think he is looking for someone who is a natural match or very close match to his way of thinking. Which isn't all that different from the majority of people looking for a partner. Why would ANYONE look for someone who did not share common ground or bond with them? I would also disagree that there are no usual limits. People laugh when I state that animals, kids, and death are limits because to MOST those are usual and unspoken hard limits.

I think your post screams on "one twue wayism" and is truly sad yet oddly amusing.

You judge him for being confrontation yet you reak of it in your post to him, infact it smells like you bathed in it and its rather kinda nasty IMO.

OP, my only other word of advice to you is don't let someone bait you in these forums. In your response to SlaveRMneeded you made a personal attack which is against the TOS and truly did make you look bad. No one online is worth getting that angry over.




LadyNTrainer -> RE: Comments, please (12/30/2010 3:41:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ANewMe30075
At the risk of being even more confrontational, SlaveRMNeeded - Who the fuck are you?


Don't ask for criticism if you don't actually want it.  IMO, she's pretty much on target.




Rule -> RE: Comments, please (12/30/2010 3:41:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DaddysInkedSlut
Using "I" statements makes someone unsubmissive?

Indeed, genuine submissives are full of themselves, so his I statements are in character. I agree with DIS.




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