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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 7:13:15 AM   
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As for the OP? It sounds like you got hit with a drive by. You visited a site or opened an e-mail that installed some bogus application that hosed your PC.

You see that's the thing of it all and my whole point, my computer was fine all day long and I really did go vist any new sites that day I had not in the past, and I never received anything before from them, also I turned my pc off and on many times during that day.

However, subsequent to having a nasty heated 15 minute online altercation, then shutting my computer down 2 minutes later, I receive the microsoft message telling me something is amiss as it shuts down.

~Fabian


You know if you are getting a worm it will not shut down a computer withing minutes, it will take time to spread, chances are that it will run for days if not weeks, replicating itself until it gets active.

Plus why engage for 15 minutes in a nasty discussion?

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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 7:14:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		The drive by could have installed itself any time between when you started it up and shut it down. The fact that you just happened to shut down after your conversation with her is simple happenstance.

In order for her to have been the one to do this she would have either had to compromise youtube's site or one of their linked advertising companies in a few minutes, upload the payload to their system, and then hope like hell it actually made it's way to you.

Or she would have magically needed to know what your IP was, scan it for vulnerabilities, and then use them to launch an attack on you.

In general it's like your house burning down minutes after you hang up on a girl in another state you just dumped and blaming her for the fire.

Is it possible? Yeah sure it is, but very unlikely.

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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 7:16:18 AM   
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People are just crazy.


Tell me about it, and thank you for your reply, and truly, my number one, and actually single motivation for creating this thread was to warn people to simply be careful of the links they click upon online.

~Fabian

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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 7:19:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: slavefabian


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ORIGINAL: CherryNeko

People are just crazy.


Tell me about it, and thank you for your reply, and truly, my number one, and actually single motivation for creating this thread was to warn people to simply be careful of the links they click upon online.

~Fabian


So you did click on a link?

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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 7:25:25 AM   
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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 7:26:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze Plus why engage for 15 minutes in a nasty discussion?


I was very childish as well immature, and stupid, especially considering that every morning I essentially pray to avoid confrontation from the world as well from self.
I however felt the need to defend and speak up for myself this one time, but I agree, that I made a tremendous mistake.

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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 7:26:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: slavefabian


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ORIGINAL: CherryNeko

People are just crazy.


Tell me about it, and thank you for your reply, and truly, my number one, and actually single motivation for creating this thread was to warn people to simply be careful of the links they click upon online.

~Fabian


Bingo!

She sent you something and you opened it.

Yes?

She didn't hack your computer... likely she did know what she was doing and had a malicious bit of software that she sends out to people who tick her off, but you opened the link.

Some antivirus programs give you the option of scanning things before you open them.

Btw: what did she say the link was supposed to be ...and why would you open something after you got into it with her?

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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 7:30:44 AM   
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So you did click on a link?


I clicked on the link/button, {please forgive me I don't understand the correct terminology,} to block someone from leaving comments on your youtube page.

~Fabian

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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 7:30:51 AM   
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so, basically, you are being a vindictive little snot by accusing her of virusing your computer.. when YOU ignored basic computer safety protocols.

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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 7:32:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you did actually click a link then that's a crucial piece of info that you neglected to mention in your original post. If that's the case, sure she could have done it. She didn't even have to be the one hosting it. It's easy enough to find infected links if you know what you're looking for.

If you did not actually click on a link she sent, then it's unlikely that she did anything and my original post still stands.


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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 7:35:37 AM   
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I clicked on the link/button, {please forgive me I don't understand the correct terminology,} to block someone from leaving comments on your youtube page.

~Fabian


That is a youtube link... she would have needed to compromise youtube in order for that to send a virus.

And calling this a worm or a virus is probably a misnomer, it sounds like you got hit with pain and simple malware. Something like the irritating antivirus2009 (among hundreds of other names) fake antivirus software which I've seen ruin several systems.

It will install itself on an unprotected system within milliseconds of browsing to an infected site, and will simply not apply the changes until you reboot next due to the way windows operates.

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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 7:54:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Compromising YouTube and uploading and camouflaging the malware all within minutes, that would be nothing short of magical, anybody who can do that could charge a fortune.

Sorry, but accusations like that really tick me off, some **** accused me of something similar due to the fact that I plainly told him that due to some things that were out of order I can't be friends with him anymore (apparently one of those guys who can't take rejection and then needs to spread stories) people who work in IT (which I don't) told him that this would require somebody who's in a league that would have every company begging the person to work for them because that would be such a rare and extraordinary skillset. I seriously wish I could do it, because then I could put a stop to this idiot harassing me, but even more because then I could simply add at least one 0 to my salary...

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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 8:10:28 AM   
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people who work in IT (which I don't) told him that this would require somebody who's in a league that would have every company begging the person to work for them because that would be such a rare and extraordinary skillset. I seriously wish I could do it, because then I could put a stop to this idiot harassing me, but even more because then I could simply add at least one 0 to my salary...


I work with several people who DO do this stuff, some of which have been the ones to be "First finders" of security issues and report them the Microsoft, Adobe, etc.

I assure you, "taking a few minutes" is only for bad Hollywood crime dramas. These guys can spend entire evenings with energy drinks and caffeine crouched over multiple computers just to find an effective way to use a relatively known exploit in new and exciting ways. Finding your own, with the rare exception of those strike of lightning moments, takes days, weeks, months, even years to identify, research, test, and then finally exploit.

Things like the black hat conventions have guys prep for months, sometimes years with bugs, exploits, and tools they have developed so they can come in and wow the security world with it. Then everything they find is promptly patched, fixed, or devalued by updates and they start all over again for the next item to wow people with. 0 day exploits are the most effective, but named as such becasue that's how long they usually last before people figure out what is going on... under a day from when they go "wild", then they start getting locked down and are no longer as effective.



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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 8:23:10 AM   
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I assure you, "taking a few minutes" is only for bad Hollywood crime dramas. These guys can spend entire evenings with energy drinks and caffeine crouched over multiple computers just to find an effective way to use a relatively known exploit in new and exciting ways. Finding your own, with the rare exception of those strike of lightning moments, takes days, weeks, months, even years to identify, research, test, and then finally exploit.

Things like the black hat conventions have guys prep for months, sometimes years with bugs, exploits, and tools they have developed so they can come in and wow the security world with it. Then everything they find is promptly patched, fixed, or devalued by updates and they start all over again for the next item to wow people with. 0 day exploits are the most effective, but named as such becasue that's how long they usually last before people figure out what is going on... under a day from when they go "wild", then they start getting locked down and are no longer as effective.






Which is basically what I said, chances that she would be one of those guys are what? So marginally slim that it's close to absolutely unlikely, a bit like being hit by lightning when you step out to take a walk on a sunny day. Somebody who could do it in a few minutes would not need to ask for an Xmas present.

It just doesn't add up

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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 8:27:21 AM   
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I could not get ride of the blue screen nor access my antivirus for it was removed and replaced with a bogus program which would automaticlly run every two minutes and my computer was essentially useless.

I thought that when a computer is started in safe mode that it stops any virus from initiating? Not so?

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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 8:29:19 AM   
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Somebody who could do it in a few minutes would not need to ask for an Xmas present.

It just doesn't add up


Not to defend her or anything, since I don't know the lady in question, but demanding tribute is quite a seperate thing. Just because this mythical Domme may be channeling Neo and hacking the Matrix while pulling down 6 figures a year doesn't mean she doesn't want some little slave boy sending her gifts.

But I do agree that it's a very slim chance that's she's one of the few hundred or so people in the world with a skill set to pull something off like what was mentioned.

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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 8:30:53 AM   
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I could not get ride of the blue screen nor access my antivirus for it was removed and replaced with a bogus program which would automaticlly run every two minutes and my computer was essentially useless.

I thought that when a computer is started in safe mode that it stops any virus from initiating? Not so?



Not at all. Safe mode is simply Windows loading with a minimum of software and drivers loaded. If your code is either impacting something that is loaded in safe mode, coded to add it to be run while in safe mode, or will simply wait till a normal reboot to install then safe mode really doesn't mean much of anything.

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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 8:34:49 AM   
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So why hasn't some programmer written software that truly is safe mode: allowing only the Operating System, a browser, an e-mail program and an anti-virus program to run?

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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 8:44:47 AM   
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Somebody who could do it in a few minutes would not need to ask for an Xmas present.

It just doesn't add up


Not to defend her or anything, since I don't know the lady in question, but demanding tribute is quite a seperate thing. Just because this mythical Domme may be channeling Neo and hacking the Matrix while pulling down 6 figures a year doesn't mean she doesn't want some little slave boy sending her gifts.

But I do agree that it's a very slim chance that's she's one of the few hundred or so people in the world with a skill set to pull something off like what was mentioned.




She could want some little slave boy sending her gifts, but I recently had a discussion with a friend who's a headhunter, Java gurus are a rare commodity and she would need to be so much more to do that, now if additionally she has time to make BDSM movies, is apparently quite attractive (while I know quite a few kinky geeks, most of them aren't stunning women who act in BDSM clips... actually none I can think of), and why would she go through the trouble of getting angry with one who doesn't send her gifts? Risks being exposed due to a revenge because he didn't buy her a pressy... Anybody looking good enough to be a domme with her own clips and those skills, she'd have her pick of fellow geeks who'd be more than willing to give her pressies, unless of course she was honing her skills all the time, laid the trap for Fabian to walk into, because she's also psychic and knew he would be coming along... According to him she did this within minutes, bloody hell, she'd command more than a 6 figure salary, she could name her price, I'd think the Pentagon would be pleased to have her working for them...

To be a bit OT - did you see the computer attack on the Iranian nuclear program? Maybe she was one of those guys?

http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/security-threats/2010/09/26/iran-confirms-stuxnet-attack-on-nuclear-site-40090272/

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RE: How did she do this to me? - 12/30/2010 8:47:01 AM   
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Thank you.

So why hasn't some programmer written software that truly is safe mode: allowing only the Operating System, a browser, an e-mail program and an anti-virus program to run?


They have, it's just not Windows anymore at that point.

And unfortunately if it's powered on and connected to the internet it's still prone to attacks regardless. The vast majority of exploits that occur now in Windows are not actually vulnerabilities with windows. It's other software like java, flash, Acrobat, etc.
The price you pay in Windows to have all this cool software to use is that the OS needs to let it run, and can be attacked via these applications if they are not meticulous about finding and fixing issues.

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