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RE: GUNS - 12/31/2010 7:13:30 PM   
Aynne88


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There are now multiple, big pictures of shiny handguns in it.


Mine being one of them. If you expect me to elicit any shame for or make any excuses for my desire to legally defend myself against those who would illegally harm me don't hold your breath. My front door was kicked in a few months ago in a particularity violent fashion.. You guarantee me that this will never happen again and I'll give up my firearm.



Please re-read my post above, in which I said " For me, though, guns as necessary is one species of argument; guns as glamorous, sexy things is something entirely different. "


Peon darling, I know the savage and brutal force and the repercussion of a gun. When I say I think my new gun is sexy, I simply mean that it is a gorgeous piece of craftsmanship, and I won't apologize for saying that.  No shit they aren't glamorous, but they are a hell of a lot more glamourous than getting robbed or raped. Semantics aside, try being a woman that lives in a fairly private area, and has had two attempted break ins. Yes I have also owned huge dogs, but they are not a match for armed intruders. You don't think a dog is going to get shot if they get past it? Either way, this is America, I have the right to own my guns and I grew up with them, have no children in this house, and I sleep a lot better with the knowledge that if someone gets past the dogs or the locked doors, I will already have that piece in my hand.

Either way, I hope you have a happy and safe New Year. :)


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RE: GUNS - 12/31/2010 7:19:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is that cunt Aynne still trying to advocate the advantages of having a gun when she herself has never been raped at gunpoint\///

There you have hypocrisy at its absolute pinnacle. Nothing I can add to that.

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RE: GUNS - 12/31/2010 7:26:50 PM   
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Panda, are we looking at the same thread?   There are now multiple, big pictures of shiny handguns in it.  People have been slavering over the amount, and power, of guns that they own.  Do you have any idea of just how startling people this side of the pond would find Greedy's comment, "That is a HAWT pic.. love the nicely manicured fingers against the deadly weapon.. NICE juxtaposition!"?    


We're looking at the same thread, but i don't think we're seeing the same thing. I think your personal aversion to firearms is skewing your perception of what a lot of the people are saying. We're talking about guns the same way people who are into cars talk about engines and gear ratios, or audiophiles talk about watts and frequency response. Guns are just machines, and people who love them are not necessarily any more flawed than people who love cars and stereos. I suggest that it's your personal distaste for guns that's causing an emotional reaction that (to those of us who aren't freaked out by firearms) seems disproportionate and, frankly, downright odd.

I don't think we're ever going to be able to agree on this one, because I just don't think we're fully capable of seeing the issue through each other's eyes. I will, however, certainly agree with you that Americans as a group are dangerously insane and frighteningly maladjusted. I just don't agree that your interpretation of what's been said in this thread thus far supports that fact.



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RE: GUNS - 12/31/2010 7:31:17 PM   
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RE: GUNS - 12/31/2010 7:32:38 PM   
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Semantics aside, try being a woman that lives in a fairly private area, and has had two attempted break ins. Yes I have also owned huge dogs, but they are not a match for armed intruders. You don't think a dog is going to get shot if they get past it? Either way, this is America, I have the right to own my guns and I grew up with them, have no children in this house, and I sleep a lot better with the knowledge that if someone gets past the dogs or the locked doors, I will already have that piece in my hand.


As I tried to make clear to DomImus and others I'm not going to get into those arguments.  For me they're different species of arguments to those surrounding the supposed 'sexyness' and 'glamour' of guns and I'm not going to conflate the two. 

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Either way, I hope you have a happy and safe New Year. :)



Likewise.


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RE: GUNS - 12/31/2010 7:37:06 PM   
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I will, however, certainly agree with you that Americans as a group are dangerously insane and frighteningly maladjusted.


What?     Far out!  Where did I say that? 

Do you think you could rephrase that to, e.g., "I would, however, certainly agree with you were you to say that Americans as a group are dangerously insane and frighteningly maladjusted. "? 


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RE: GUNS - 12/31/2010 7:53:21 PM   
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Is that cunt Aynne still trying to advocate the advantages of having a gun when she herself has never been raped at gunpoint\///

There you have hypocrisy at its absolute pinnacle. Nothing I can add to that.


Edited to add: Oh and fuckwit, I won't be raped by gunpoint you dumbass, I have a gun.

Baybeee, if you think after years of working as a bartender, and owning a construction business and working for my man in the commercial fishing industry that a little piss ant like you calling me a cunt is insulting, you can guess again. I find you disgusting and morally reprehensible, but hey, rock on. I have been called a cunt by other angry little men that couldn't get laid by me either, and judging by your popularity here, my guess is that your minuscule little dick isn't getting any action tonight either. I get it, you are bitter, lonely, and angry. So in your simple little brain the only people that should have guns are rape victims? You aren't that clever are you?

Oh...by the way..suck it.

< Message edited by Aynne88 -- 12/31/2010 7:54:53 PM >

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RE: GUNS - 12/31/2010 7:56:37 PM   
Aynne88


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Semantics aside, try being a woman that lives in a fairly private area, and has had two attempted break ins. Yes I have also owned huge dogs, but they are not a match for armed intruders. You don't think a dog is going to get shot if they get past it? Either way, this is America, I have the right to own my guns and I grew up with them, have no children in this house, and I sleep a lot better with the knowledge that if someone gets past the dogs or the locked doors, I will already have that piece in my hand.


As I tried to make clear to DomImus and others I'm not going to get into those arguments.  For me they're different species of arguments to those surrounding the supposed 'sexyness' and 'glamour' of guns and I'm not going to conflate the two. 

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Either way, I hope you have a happy and safe New Year. :)



Likewise.



Thank you and also thank you for showing that it is possible to not agree and still be a gentleman. You might want to help that little Jaybeee learn the finer points of chivalry. . You excel at it. 


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RE: GUNS - 12/31/2010 7:58:19 PM   
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Is that cunt Aynne still trying to advocate the advantages of having a gun when she herself has never been raped at gunpoint\///

There you have hypocrisy at its absolute pinnacle. Nothing I can add to that.


I have been.  And I still advocate for the rights of gun owners.

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RE: GUNS - 12/31/2010 8:31:09 PM   
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Dildos are too difficult to operate for many Americans.


You want to chase off a bear with a dildo!?

Not many bears in Atlanta.


Plenty of assholes thou:P

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RE: GUNS - 12/31/2010 8:41:23 PM   
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I will, however, certainly agree with you that Americans as a group are dangerously insane and frighteningly maladjusted.


What?     Far out!  Where did I say that? 

Do you think you could rephrase that to, e.g., "I would, however, certainly agree with you were you to say that Americans as a group are dangerously insane and frighteningly maladjusted. "? 



Well, if you ever do come out and explicitly say it, I'll have your back!


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RE: GUNS - 12/31/2010 8:55:32 PM   
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Dildos are too difficult to operate for many Americans.


You want to chase off a bear with a dildo!?

Not many bears in Atlanta.


Plenty of assholes thou:P

Is that Chicago Pig Humour?

Rock on Aynne. I, personally, would prefer to live in a world without handguns, but since that's not possible, people should be free to defend themselves in whatever manner they deem proper.


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RE: GUNS - 12/31/2010 9:03:59 PM   
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RE: GUNS - 12/31/2010 10:41:07 PM   
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Is that cunt Aynne still trying to advocate the advantages of having a gun when she herself has never been raped at gunpoint\///

There you have hypocrisy at its absolute pinnacle. Nothing I can add to that.

WTF?

Is this a sad joke, or are you just that screwed up?

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RE: GUNS - 12/31/2010 11:12:42 PM   
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RE: GUNS - 1/1/2011 12:56:23 AM   
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Thanks Firm, Hippie and Greedy, Jaybeee has had it out for me since I (and many others)called him on destroying Greedy's beautiful tribute thread to our military whom he then proceeded to call killers and repeatedly said they should all rot in hell, they were hired killers, cowards, on and on. Can you imagine? Among other things. Then there was his infamous thread where he bragged ad nauseum about smacking a woman across the face in a club and it was some stranger and damn it felt good! . I can't tell with all of his bragging if he makes about 70 percent of his life experiences up, but there is no doubt he takes poetic license here for sure.  

Yes he is a disturbed and very very creepy man with sexual rage towards women. Whether he even realized it or not, he is exactly the kind of person that makes me feel a hell of a lot safer carrying. Oh the bitter irony that is Jaybeee.


So anyway, he follows me around now and calls me names.  Doesn't he know that Domi and Jefff already did that and it was far funnier?


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RE: GUNS - 1/1/2011 2:30:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Catching this last page I think I'm glad I missed some of the hoopla. But you're turning me on. Like I'm Marshall Dillon walking in the bar and Kitty has a few guys at gunpoint, making them clean up the mess they made last night and fixing up the bar. This is where I sit down and, unfortunately have to wait a minute for my drink. However I do sit, knowing that the situation is under control. "How you doing Kitty ?", "Just fine Matt".

Now it's my turn. Look, all the whiney asses listen up. The allure of a gun, in anything but the mechanical sense, of superiority is not the issue. Gun owners believe everybody should have a gun, with the appropriate exceptions. I am talking about what is above the "feeling" of security when packing, because it simply doesn't exist if everybody is packing. Do we have that straight ?

No Ladies and Gentlemen, it is not the Godlike hubris and quest for easy power that it is made out to be. It is related to the quest for power though, in the game. We are (were) a competitive species, we don't mind a fair fight. What good is my gun if you have a gun ? Then it comes down to who is better at USING the gun. Sometimes it comes down to who has the bigger gun, but not as a rule.

I knew a Man, his name was Don, same name as my Father. Owned a bar called Marielle's. One relatively quiet night as a customer left he heard a ruckus outside the door. His customer was being robbed. He went outside and found out, and tried to thwart the attempt, but the robber had a gun. A puny .25 that I wouldn't wipe my ass with. But at close range the punk shot and killed Don. Hit him with a gut shot from a lower elevation, putting the bullet's trajectory from below the rib cage, up through the heart.

Do I believe the assailant should not have had a gun ? I guess so. Do I believe that we should have made sure the assailant should never have been able to get a gun ? Believe it or not no, and Don was a friend. What I believe should've been is that Don had a gun and blew the punk's head off. It beats his family going to the parole hearings every so many years to make sure the asshole doesn't get out.

Better yet if the customer had a gun. He could've shot the thug himself, wlked back into the bar and said "Don, sorry I made a mess out front........" .

They say don't take the law into your own hands. They are fucking absolutely wrong. The Law belongs in our hands. Each and every one of us. And I don't mean IRS code or no parking zones. There are some things that human beings just don't do.

Kudos on that not getting raped at gunpoint. Don't you wish it was like that for everybody ? I tried to get my Mother to carry a gun but she just won't do it.

On the anti gunners' side is the fact that there are two kinds of people. One kind, their wrath will make them reach for a killing machine, others only reach for a killing machine when they absolutely need it. The former should not be. The latter should.

When you are unable to defend yourself you will be controled one way or another. You will be absolved of responsibility for your own well being. Is that what you want ?

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RE: GUNS - 1/1/2011 4:29:11 AM   
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RE: GUNS - 1/1/2011 4:51:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		The hide button ? No no no. I want it out in the open, I refuse the bliss of ignorance. JB is likely a person. With those opinions I am very interested in how they came about, and how the brainwashing is so firmly entrenched. How did it happen and can it be counteracted ? If you ignore you'll never know.

Don't worry I know I can go out on posse and Kitty will make them dance.

T

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RE: GUNS - 1/1/2011 7:10:20 AM   
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