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raven066 -> rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/2/2011 6:45:08 PM)
ok, i;ve read several play rape post here and it's not what i would see as play rape. i myself will not go into a womans house in the middle of the night. i prefer being either in my house, or her house. she knows i will "rape" her but she don't know what day or when or where in the house. sometimes i will tell her to dress in something very sexy. mini skirt, push up bra, low rise bikini panties, cut off tshirt. other times it's her choice what to where. i want her to fight back from start to finish. and there will be times i will only use my finger. if i "rape" her with my finger, i make her watch, while i verbally tease her about what i'm doing and how she is helpless to stop me. of course everything is agreed to and consented to by BOTH of us. and BOTH of us can use the safe word and stop everything at anytime and not even have a reason. for me, the struggle is the important part of it all. having her struggle under me, sometimes fighting back as hard as she can, i love that part. and having her dress slutty from time to time? how many times have you guys seen a woman wearing the sexest clothes at a bar and you wanted to have sex with her. now i do, except i "take it". ok, time to here your opinions raven066

poise -> RE: rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/2/2011 7:02:38 PM)
Cool story, Bro.

NocturnalStalker -> RE: rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/2/2011 7:10:49 PM)
Fascinating tale, comrade.

Lockit -> RE: rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/2/2011 7:24:51 PM)
Fuck dude... Yes, I am frowning for a couple of reasons. Rape play with someone you know and consents is fine. What's this shit about being at a bar where a woman has on sexy clothes and people wanting to do her and you taking it? I am hoping you worded that wrong. Even worded wrong... I don't think much of your silly ass. Oh and it doesn't mean much when a man of your size can simply lay on a chick and pin her. You are just the type this lil bitch loved taking down... but not on your life would I.

LadyPact -> RE: rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/2/2011 7:28:52 PM)
Lockit, I'm not disagreeing with you. That crap about some chick in a bar makes My skin crawl. Taking what's Mine? Oh hell yeah!

omkfY -> RE: rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/2/2011 7:30:46 PM)
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Lockit -> RE: rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/2/2011 7:31:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Lockit, I'm not disagreeing with you. That crap about some chick in a bar makes My skin crawl. Taking what's Mine? Oh hell yeah! I hear ya! lol

raven066 -> RE: rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/2/2011 8:05:52 PM)
taking the girl in sexy clothes means the girl who comes to my house or invites me to her house. i am not talking about a criminal. i would not rape a woman for real even if i knew i could get away with it. kenny

daddysprop247 -> RE: rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/2/2011 8:41:28 PM)
some women don't fight back, don't physically struggle. it's just not their nature. they can still be raped. but i suppose if one is interested in making it a game, that could make the "game" less thrilling.

SuperMaleSlave -> RE: rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/2/2011 8:47:25 PM)
Sounds like a great opportunity for a misunderstanding to occur which could potentially led to prison time for you (and maybe an actual real rape scenerio for you once you are in the pen). Way Way Way to risky,,,,,,,,,,,

raven066 -> RE: rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/2/2011 10:16:58 PM)
nothing happends with both myself and the girl sitting down and talking about every thing we need to cover. nothing will be done unless consent has been given. i find it a surprise at how easy some of you can misinterpret what i'm saying. it's the one thing i hate about computers. so let put it in such a way that you can all understand: play rape is a sexual fetish, found in far more women than men. and like ANY form of sex, the woman has full control. like the old saying goes, women control half the money and all the pussy. i cannot so much as put my hand on a woman's shoulder without her verbal consent. no sexual contact, of ANY kind, can happen without the woman giving her verbal consent. nothing, not even a conversation with a woman can be had without her consent.

Awareness -> RE: rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/2/2011 10:31:25 PM)
Christ, any excuse to pull out the creepy line. The guy's been pretty clear. He gets the chick to dress slutty as part of the fantasy. And then he uses the analogy of a chick at a bar who's dressed similarly and turning on every guy within range. Because - and I realise this might be a news flash for you delicate flowers - men generally want to fuck attractive women who dress slutty. In this instance, his chick dresses slutty around the house. So he can feel her turning him on and at some point they kick the fantasy into gear. Most women like to fuck. Many women want to be taken, with the degree of force involved varying from woman to woman. You two pulling out the creep line is either misguided or pathetic. You expect people to accept your kinks, have the courtesy not to take every opportunity to demonise someone just because their kink is different to yours. Alternatively, harden the fuck up.

Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/2/2011 11:02:09 PM)
To be blunt, yeah... I've have had fantasies about taking some hot sexy dressed girl I saw at the bar or other places. Fantasy thoughts about 1001 things I'd love to do them, including the whole rape fantasy, along with flogging or spanking them.. or grabbing them by the hair and what not. I have no shame in admitting and owning up to having had these hot fantasy thoughts. Including even going home afterwards and getting off on these fantasies. I've had always had twisted fantasies and dark thoughts that run in and out my mind for years. No shame in admitting or owning up to this. But... to actually do it? That's a whole different story and it ain't happening. Forced sex, rape play, rough sex with somebody I'm involved with, where that's part of the established dynamic... Yeah, I'm all down for that... along with "hot" resistance put up a fight. I'm sorry to disappoint anybody here, but my mind ain't exactly pure and fluffy. If it's hot girl dressed up in a mini-shirt with fishnets on... I've thought about it within the first 2 seconds of seeing her slutty dressed ass. I know, I know.. typical guy. Let's face it, if sexy clothing were not just that, then Victoria Secret would have been a bust by now. (just saying)

Lockit -> RE: rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/2/2011 11:06:45 PM)
Now wait a minute Awareness. His words were not clear. To anyone that has been raped or worked with victims, his words in that line about the bar, were creepy and were unclear. Don't blame us for taking his words to mean.. you know the one you want to fuck that is dressed all sexy, is now someone I take. He didn't explain it wasn't a stranger to him and that he spoke to them and made any agreements. As his words stand... he was creepy sounding. I am sorry if you feel we are assuming something, but when you talk about a topic such as this... often times a crime against women mostly... you better be damn clear and to get that toughen up chicky shit... it is insulting to women that have been through it and helped victims. We called it how he worded it. You can stand down now. He further explained things... you found this after he did so. Look at his words and consider a few things before you tell us to harden the fuck up. Stand down man.

Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/2/2011 11:28:54 PM)
One more thing to add... What's nice about going out on a date with most Bisexual woman is because she's thinking the same damn thing 90% of the time. :-P Going out on a date with an insecure Heterosexual woman can be hell, when both notice a sexy dressed hot looking chic at the same time. Followed by sitting there, answering the no-brain question...and admitting Yes, I thought she was hot and yes, I'm a Pervert...followed by the classic record scratch sound and then the faint ringing of cathedral death bells in the background. Come on guys, you know exactly WTF I'm talking about.

SpiritedRadiance -> RE: rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/2/2011 11:34:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4 One more thing to add... What's nice about going out on a date with most Bisexual woman is because she's thinking the same damn thing 90% of the time. :-P Going out on a date with an insecure Heterosexual woman can be hell, when both notice a sexy dressed hot looking chic at the same time. Followed by sitting there, answering the no-brain question...and admitting Yes, I thought she was hot and yes, I'm a Pervert...followed by the classic record scratch sound and then the faint ringing of cathedral death bells in the background. Come on guys, you know exactly WTF I'm talking about. The issue I think Lady Pact and Lockit are refering to isnt the Oh that girl is hot i want to fuck her... Its the wording the op used that makes him come across as someone whos justified in raping someone because she dressed in a sexy manner... Thinking about a hot chick you want to molest and doing it against her will with out her consent is completely different situations...

Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/2/2011 11:56:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance The issue I think Lady Pact and Lockit are refering to isnt the Oh that girl is hot i want to fuck her... Its the wording the op used that makes him come across as someone whos justified in raping someone because she dressed in a sexy manner... Thinking about a hot chick you want to molest and doing it against her will with out her consent is completely different situations... I totally agree, and see this as two different situations... the op's words seems to contradict themselves, between what was posted in the first and second paragraph and the third. The whole bit about "except I take it" <--- Yeah this kinda of did not sit well with me either at first. I had to reread the whole thing over again. :-) I don't think the op realizes how import the last paragraph is when expressing shit.

SpiritedRadiance -> RE: rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/3/2011 12:39:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4 I totally agree, and see this as two different situations... the op's words seems to contradict themselves, between what was posted in the first and second paragraph and the third. The whole bit about "except I take it" <--- Yeah this kinda of did not sit well with me either at first. I had to reread the whole thing over again. :-) I don't think the op realizes how import the last paragraph is when expressing shit. I think he was to busy typing one handed....

Awareness -> RE: rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/3/2011 1:24:40 AM)
I disagree. He mentioned "play" several times, the use of a safe word before he got to the point about the chick in the bar and then he tossed the phrase "take it" into quotes to indicate he was borrowing the phrase, not meaning it literally. Where I come from, that's pretty much enough to indicate his intent. I expect grown adults to consider context when they're interpreting the words of others. I'd also point out that neither of you sought clarification, you merely presumed the worst and went after the guy. I expect as much from LP - I'm aware of her issues with male sexual aggression - but you've demonstrated a more developed sense of self and so I expect a significantly more adult approach from you. It's not like the guy burst into a vanilla conversation and dropped this. This is the kind of forum in which such things are liable to be discussed and everyone here should know that the difference between role-playing rape and the actual crime is as stark as you can get. To my mind, interpreting an ambiguity in this way says more about the reader than it does the individual making the statement. Consider then that if you have baggage which causes a reaction in this way, that it's not always appropriate to expect everyone in the forum to step around it, especially when they're new and don't know you, or your history.

lilredsubmarine -> RE: rough sex (play rape) i know, old subject (1/3/2011 2:17:02 AM)
All miscommunication/misunderstanding regarding what the OP initially intended to say aside (admittedly, at first i didn't correctly interpret his last paragraph either).... i personally find his proposed scenario hot as. Um, yes please, i'll take two. [:D] i used to think there was something horribly wrong with me. How could i possibly fantasize about such things??! What the frick was wrong with me?!??! Now, i am happily at one with my inner deviant. Hooray!! [:D] Meanwhile, i recently had a similar conversation with a Dom friend of mine, that is, play rape versus real rape. The real thing-- i could imagine nothing worse, and my heart goes out to those women (and men). Play rape on the other hand..... um, excuse me a second.... runs to the bathroom with a box of tissues [:)]

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