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CerVeza -> RE: SLAVES: mindset (1/16/2011 12:44:15 PM)

Love a good girl who is a slave.




agirl -> RE: SLAVES: mindset (1/16/2011 6:01:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thedavezone

I'd like to know why slaves are slaves - what's the mindset?  What made you want to BE a slave?  Do you do things you hate for your owner - and why?

What's it like?

I've been trying to wrap my mind around this and I can't.


I didn't want or quest to be a slave,(whatever that is) I simply wanted to be owned/wholly consumed by him.

That said, yes, I do things that I hate (although I'd be more likely to describe it as *strongly dislike*)

Why?...Because I agreed to do as he asked and as my history with him over many years indicates that it's generally in my best interests to do so, it seems rather sensible to get on with it.

What's it like?..... Basically, it's like drinking nasty medicine that you know will do you good somewhere along the line :)

agirl






agirl -> RE: SLAVES: mindset (1/16/2011 6:19:41 PM)

Jeff wrote...

a) I'm dominant. In the end, it's always going to come back to that.
b) I'm a good leader. The "things" she has to do are likely to be good for her, me, and/or us.
c) "Doing shit you don't want to" is a part of being an adult and she likes to think of herself as an adult.
d) I do lots of shit I don't like for her. There's an innate sense of fair play.

...that seems to sum it up nicely for me. Beautifully done Jeff, by the way.

It's not some one-sided game where I'm being *wee-slavey* and spending half my time doing things I despise. It's not all about me, what I like and what I don't...it's that WE spend as much time as is humanly possible doing/being what we both want....with brief moments where we have to do things that we're not particularly dancing with glee about.


agirl




CaringandReal -> RE: SLAVES: mindset (1/16/2011 8:38:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: osf

being constantly horney and wired up all wrong helps

dam, i keep hitting the wrong button, this is a general post


Understood about the general post, but I happen to agree. The above two qualities will "get you to the door" so to speak, but you may have to dismount from that fine, high spirited horse if you want to pass through the threshold.




osf -> RE: SLAVES: mindset (1/16/2011 9:45:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CaringandReal


quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

being constantly horney and wired up all wrong helps

dam, i keep hitting the wrong button, this is a general post


Understood about the general post, but I happen to agree. The above two qualities will "get you to the door" so to speak, but you may have to dismount from that fine, high spirited horse if you want to pass through the threshold.


some should crawl through, it's easier to kick them that way




Genobee -> RE: SLAVES: mindset (1/27/2011 8:01:39 PM)

Hm, let me compose myself first...
...
...
Okay.
Well first of all I would like to state that I've been sub since about age 7 when for some reason I had a urge to get my friends to make me have their foot in my mouth.
I obviously at the time didn't know why, but it felt good in a humiliating sense.
I didn't find out till years later of what a sub even actually was which I think was my freshman year in high school.

Since that time I spent a lot of time mediating about it, as it was important for me to understand how myself worked.
What made me tick, ya know?

Well my conclusions from this time of insight is what best describes the magic behind my mindset as a sub...
With that said though, I do not speak for any other sub and I actually believe everyone ticks for slightly different reasons.

However, this is what I came to understand...
I enjoy the idea of submitting to someone I like because I obsess over every aspect of them that attracts me.
My mind mentally indulges submission as a way of dedicating and showing love and praise to what has caught its eye as desirable and lovable.
It wants me to do things that show my submission to that person and thus drives thoughts and desires to submit despite the humiliation it may bring.
In-fact, my mind reasons the more humiliation in the task, the more profound that act of praise and worship becomes.
This leads my mind to pleasure immensely from submissive acts that boasts in humiliation.
The more time I spend with that person, the more that desire to praise grows.
Everything becomes about praising and submitting to the other person because of that..

However, the things my mind has set apart as physical worship are especially enthralled by me.
Such things involve foot worship as my mind recognized the submission to feet as an extreme physical act of submission and servitude since a very young age.
Thus I'm guessing my mind has a fix on submission as an ultimate way of showing love and praise to someone and thus has based all fundamental conclusions about relationships based on this understanding.
It is because of this mental conception that I pleasure from submission and all things related and strive for it.
This explanation probably raises questions such as to what extent does such a mindset give in terms to personal confidence and the ability to set limits.

To answer them respectively, confidence comes from perspective in which mine gives me the confidence I need and then-some.
An example of this is I take great pride in how my mind has developed.
I feel lucky to be able the to feel things I can because of it...and I often find many other things in life lacking in comparison because of such pleasures that come with my mindset...
Granted, it also has made me a much more sensitive person..as being based in submission means you have to have a strong ability to love to the point of obsession.
Or well, at least I find that true for me.

Limits comes from reasoning and maturity.  There are extents I'm willing to go to depending on how much I trust the person I would be with for example.
Also, the closer I get with someone, the further I'd be willing to go because as my interest in that person increases,
my desire to submit does as well, and thus tempts me to give into more humiliating acts as time goes.

Just as any mindset though, you learn things through experiences.
I've become a lot tougher because of going through pain of being rejected by people I have grown very strong feelings for.
Eventually you learn how far you let your love for someone go in accordance to just how close you are with them.
You also learn to get used to the backlash from rejection. It's also important to keep strong confidence in yourself because of this...
If you don't...well, you probably would just commit suicide.
When I was young and completely inexperienced in who I was and how my mind worked, I wasn't ready for the pain associated with it and fell in a very dark place because of it.
My strong relationship with Jesus is the only reason I pulled out from it as it filled me with plenty of confidence and a means to build a better perspective for myself.
Not to bring religion into this of course, but it is the accurate truth to how I got over a pretty hefty hurdle in my life...

Anyways, I think that sums up my current understandings of my submissive mindset.
I hope it has helped you understand what some submissives may have going on in their minds. :3




lally2 -> RE: SLAVES: mindset (1/28/2011 5:43:35 AM)

it isnt as simple as suggesting a slave is all about doing stuff they hate.  in a way thats assuming first of all that all we're talking about is BDSM, and we arent.  niether is it assuming that a slave is so uber that she can submit to things a submissive wouldnt submit to, because thats not true either.

when you flit through this thread quite a number of submissives here state that they didnt know they were until they met their Master.  in the end its about developing a connection where trust and submission deepen to such a degree that they relinquish so much of the control over to the Dominant that the internet woven delineation between submissive and slave gets blurred.

i do know of plenty of submissives who recognise that their relationship is far more Ms than Ds but continue to call themselves Ds and avoid the label slave.

but being a slave is far more than a label, it isnt important as a label but the emotions and the connection serve to describe it well enough as someone who gives greater control over to their Dom/me.




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