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eihwaz -> RE: Pope Says God is Behind the Big Bang (2/22/2011 4:55:57 PM)
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[...] Agree entirely that doubt is essential for a humane humanity. The most robust faith is that conditioned by doubt.
To me, the existence of doubt seems to exclude the possibility of faith. At a minimum, faith and doubt make uneasy bedfellows or so it seems to me...
To me: Faith doesn't entail certainty. It's more of a daily working hypothesis. Doubt opens the space for faith to grow and change. A faith not open to challenge is likely to be one based on fear. It's analogous to science, which [is] predicated on falsifiable hypotheses. By "faith" in this instance I mean a personal belief in the Divine, not adherence to a particular religion...
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Tho I wonder, if it is the case that your God is an absolute one, is anything less than an absolute faith sufficient?
God, being the supreme being, omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, and so on is (or would be), by definition, absolute, but that's a metaphysical detail. Any notion I have of "God" -- whether as a guy-in-the-sky or the natural world or the force or as something "out there" -- is bound to be limited and an anthropocentric artifact -- quite non-absolute; that's an inescapable part of the human condition. Moreover, my faith is more of a practice and a path, involving growth and change, rather than a static belief.
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
Your courage in taking the challenging alternative makes your faith insulated from some of the challenges posed by the argument here I suspect.
Thanks much for the compliment! [:)]
To which challenges do you refer?
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ORIGINAL Sensei Sevan Ross
... Great Faith and Great Doubt are two ends of a spiritual walking stick. We grip one end with the grasp given to us by our Great Determination. We poke into the underbrush in the dark on our spiritual journey. This act is real spiritual practice -- gripping the Faith end and poking ahead with the Doubt end of the stick.
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Miguel de Unamuno
Faith which does not doubt is dead faith.
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Paul Tillich
Doubt isn't the opposite of faith; it is an element of faith.
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Rainer Maria Rilke
Be patient toward all that is unsolved in your heart. And try to love the questions themselves.
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Chinese proverb
With great doubts come great understanding; with little doubts come little understanding.
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French proverb
Only the one who knows nothing doubts nothing.
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C.S. Lewis
If ours is an examined faith, we should be unafraid to doubt. If doubt is eventually justified, we were believing what clearly was not worth believing. But if doubt is answered, our faith has grown stronger.
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