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SAMHAIN09 -> Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 2:14:23 PM)

[8|] For example man meets beautiful woman who is out of his league he tells her he has a good job and that it pays well (he just leaves out that it involves making sand whitches at subway, and flipping burgers at burger king does he ever need to come clean) should he come clean or wait to tell her the truth.



LadyPact -> RE: Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 2:21:18 PM)

Do you really have to ask this question? 

If you really do, the answer is yes.  It matters if you are not honest.



DarkSteven -> RE: Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 2:25:10 PM)

I love to lie and stretch the truth for fun.  I WILL NOT do it to deliberately mislead.  With a few exceptions:

I once lied through my teeth to provide my then wife with a surprise birthday party. I also told my dying mother that she looked fine when she looked like hell. I also once concealed from my ex wife that I had been laid off so that we could enjoy a party that night - I told her next day.



poise -> RE: Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 2:27:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SAMHAIN09

[8|] For example man meets beautiful woman who is out of his league he tells her he has a good job and that it pays well (he just leaves out that it involves making sand whitches at subway, and flipping burgers at burger king does he ever need to come clean) should he come clean or wait to tell her the truth.



Said man is lying to himself in the first place by assuming that money can buy love.



stef -> RE: Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 2:59:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SAMHAIN09

For example man meets beautiful woman who is out of his league he tells her he has a good job and that it pays well (he just leaves out that it involves making sand whitches at subway, and flipping burgers at burger king does he ever need to come clean) should he come clean or wait to tell her the truth.

What is with your endless stream of inane questions?  Are you really this vacuous?  [img]http://www.inertdomain.com/images/rolleye.gif[/img]

~stef



InvisibleBlack -> RE: Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 3:17:04 PM)

At the heart of any successful D/s relationship is trust. Trust is built over time. If you start the relationship with lies, you've already built cracks into the foundation. That's a bad idea from the git-go.

I'll put it a different way. If you're dominant*, why are you embarassed about where you work? There's nothing wrong with saying "I took this job at Wendy's to pay the bills until I find something decent/finish school/whatever". Lying about yourself to make yourself look better betrays a lack of confidence. I suspect most subs would find that rather unappealing.

(*Not to imply that a submissive should be embarassed about where they work.)



angelikaJ -> RE: Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 3:29:35 PM)

You are young and still figuring out your place within the world.

There will be plenty of time for a relationship when you have done that.

From your questions you have a lot of uncertainty.

Do you know how refreshing it is to have someone your age who is that way and who isn't claiming to have 10 years of experience and to be an accomplished "Master"?

Take your time and get to know yourself, get to know other people... .

This is not a race.

And yes, be honest.

You can have a great work ethic while working fast food and in the current economy you would be surprised how many people from all sorts of backgrounds have resorted to making sandwiches or flipping burgers.



IrishMist -> RE: Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 3:30:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SAMHAIN09

[8|] For example man meets beautiful woman who is out of his league he tells her he has a good job and that it pays well (he just leaves out that it involves making sand whitches at subway, and flipping burgers at burger king does he ever need to come clean) should he come clean or wait to tell her the truth.


I would think that eventually the young lady is going to ask EXACTLY where he works. Personally, for myself, I would walk away from a man who used this kind of....'hiding' to make himself look better in my eyes. He obviously would not think very highly of ME if he felt the need to address his own career in such a way.



sexyred1 -> RE: Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 3:37:27 PM)

I cannot believe adults ask these types of questions.



Phoenixpower -> RE: Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 4:02:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

I cannot believe adults ask these types of questions.


me neither [8|]

Having met men who were double the weight they claimed to be, who omitted factors such as cat fur allergy and being wheelchair bound, I would not even bother to waste my breath and say "good bye" to you when that would be uncovered. As it has been said before, you build your own cracks in the foundation of a potential relationship, if you consider it would be alright to stretch the truth as quite frankly, when you feel the need to lie about that already, how would I be able to know that you would bother to tell the truth in other aspects?!



subinlife -> RE: Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 4:08:09 PM)

In todays economy who cares where you work.
At least your working.



osf -> RE: Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 4:43:00 PM)

i'm male, therefore i lie



osf -> RE: Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 4:45:47 PM)

if she accidently stops at the subway where he is working how much should she tip?



KatyLied -> RE: Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 5:03:25 PM)

It always matters if you start out a relationship with lies, omissions and half-truths.



CaringandReal -> RE: Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 6:37:43 PM)

It depends on your goals and your philosophy.

Goals: it doesn't matter if all you want is a one-night stand. It does matter if you want a long-term relationship--it may screw your chances for that (although even that depends on a lot of complex factors, namely you).

Philosophy: If you believe in karma, don't go there. Or if you believe that your actions help shape in your future form/personality, tread very lightly down the lying path.



osf -> RE: Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 6:47:16 PM)

but everyone knows that true doms are captains of industry and finance or at the least heads of mid sized states



InvisibleBlack -> RE: Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 7:25:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: osf

but everyone knows that true doms are captains of industry and finance or at the least heads of mid sized states


You left out the part about "leaping tall buildings in a single bound" and "changing the course of mighty rivers". [;)]



poise -> RE: Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 7:36:56 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: InvisibleBlack

quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

but everyone knows that true doms are captains of industry and finance or at the least heads of mid sized states


You left out the part about "leaping tall buildings in a single bound" and "changing the course of mighty rivers". [;)]


Whew! For a minute there, I thought you wrote "leaping tall buildings while bound". [:-]



osf -> RE: Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 7:55:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: poise


quote:

ORIGINAL: InvisibleBlack

quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

but everyone knows that true doms are captains of industry and finance or at the least heads of mid sized states


You left out the part about "leaping tall buildings in a single bound" and "changing the course of mighty rivers". [;)]


Whew! For a minute there, I thought you wrote "leaping tall buildings while bound". [:-]





that's tossing bound subbies over tall buildings



Maynard -> RE: Does it matter if you stretch the truth? (1/9/2011 8:01:43 PM)

I come from an understanding/belief that a dominant should not have to lie, stretch the truth, misrepresent themselves.  A submissive shouldn't punish a dominant if they dislike an answer or the way things are......

If a dominant feels they need to lie in order to hold their place of power over a submissive:
1. the dominant probably will not be on top very long, anyways.
2. being deceitful infers a lack of confidence or low self esteem and is equated to the loss of many domly points. 

As someone else has mentioned, the economy sucks.  A fast food service job is better than no job, especially if the worker is a student, young, and/or working on improving his/her situation. 



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