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RaceBannon -> Dom Psychology: PART II-a thrilling sequel... (5/1/2006 8:15:52 PM)

I thank all those who have submitted thoughts on the "Dom Psychology." Many interesting points. Thank you for your time. What I have never seen in these posts are the origins of how you men (or women) have become who you have become. I am posting my "how i broke into the scene," perhaps others will follow....


HOW I BECAME A DOM
   or
LIFE AS I DON'T KNOW IT



“Women should be responsible for their own orgasm...”
 
I don’t really know where such a quote originated, but this testament to the ineptitude of man rattled around in the ‘70’s. It seems to me the essence of why so many women seek a take-man in passion. What fun is it for a woman to be “in charge” of her own orgasm?


  I have always been good in the sack. I don’t know why or how I became adept in passion; perhaps growing up with passionless parents made me wish for something more, otherwise I haven’t a clue. It is easy to know if you are a good lover. Time and time again you will find yourself the recipient of looks of “awe” and admissions that your lover “never knew sex could be LIKE THAT,” and the ever-glorious “So THAT’S an orgasm!” If you’re a good lover, you will be rewarded with such looks and confessions for many, many times (If you don’t have such rewards often with lovers...uh...well you may not be as good as you think.).


  Yes, many in the past have told me I have a “gift.” It makes me feel good. It makes me feel good to be the best lover my lover has ever experienced. It is my goal when bedding the opposite sex; to be all they wish me to be, and to be more than any other has been. (Such a goal seems more appropriate than just being one of the many men passing through their lives, yes?) They are all different, every orgasm is unique, and every woman is a mystery and a puzzle. Unraveling such puzzles became a hobby of mine when my 16 year marriage ended. I found a great need on the Internet from women who have always yearned for passion and who have all had many experiences with inept lovers; lovers who care far more for their own pleasure than their mates. They did not wish to “be responsible for their own orgasm.”
 
It is a gift I have found I NEED to give.
 
I am responsible for their orgasm and have gone to great lengths in the past to find that sucker. I have never missed a woman’s orgasm until this past summer. That was when I met this wonder called “a submissive.” It was then I had to immerse myself in this world of BDSM and learn the ways that those on this site profess to practice (I say “profess” because as we all know there are many who have no clue to what they are doing.). I have learned a great deal not only about my mate, but perhaps about myself. I have found this thing known as “a submissive” woman to be precious beyond all other mates; such giving is rare indeed.
 
“Giving.”
 
Perhaps that is the word missing in the beds of America that make woman write such foolishness in magazines like Cosmopolitan about “taking responsibility” for one’s own pleasure. I call taking responsibility for my pleasure “masturbation,” or “a candlelight dinner for one.”
 
Why do most men not give more in passion? Do they not realize that in comparison their own orgasm is dwarfed by the heights women can achieve? Do they not wish to be the creators of pleasure unbound and be graced with such looks of awe and gratitude that makes a man feel God-like? Does not a woman in the thralls of ecstasy, the ecstasy that is pretended in most porn videos, make them cum not only in their pricks but their minds as well?
 
I know most men do not endeavor in such heights because I have asked women time and time again about their past lovers, at first because I was confused why they thought I was so good, and later merely to prove that my brethren were woefully bed-challenged.


  It is a sorry state for mankind.
 
Now, I am attempting to please this lovely submissive woman. Never have I had to study to please a woman. Never have I had to learn why a woman is how she is, or what nearly insane behavior is necessary to fulfill her desires. Yes, I have always been in charge in the sack, and still am with this woman. Never has a woman given me anything other than love or gratitude after lovemaking. Yet this one woman, so ignorant of her own desires, so ignorant of the basics of a loving relationship, so ignorant that there are so many others with desires like her own, has given me more than all the other women in my life combined.
 
She alone has taught ME something. She has taught me I know nothing about some kinds of passion. She has taught me how much I love a challenge, and how far I will go to meet such a challenge. She has taught me that the desires most men merely dream can become reality. She has been my slave in passion and there is no limit to the pleasure she can withstand. She is infinite.


  No, I do not know why I am the way I am. I do not know why I am so comfortable and confident with a woman in my arms. It has always been the case until recently. Now I am just a babe who is only beginning this passionate journey. I am newly reborn a novice. What greater gift could be given to a man who thought he knew it all?

  I have no idea why a Dom becomes a Dom. I have no idea why I have to be “in charge.” Hell, I’m one of the few men I know who is not enamored of oral sex (Seems a bit like submission to me-I taught her just to hold it in her mouth when she rests-we find such a thing lovely). I just know I have never been so excited about the future, and it was all because of a wayward woman who has a few fantasies.
 
Who knew?
 
Maybe all Doms have a bit of a God complex, maybe they just like the power, maybe they are like the directors of movies and merely wish to create. Whatever they are or why they are, for the most part they seem to take a great interest in pleasing women. I guess that makes them quite different than your run-of-the-mill belching jerk, your sweet, shy, and hapless boy, or the man who really just wants to concentrate on his handicap rather than learn to please a woman.
 
I have no idea if this Dom stuff is cut out for me, we shall see if I can truly please this woman (If she turns out to be a pain slut, I’m a goner!), yet is nice to finally spend some time with men who put a little more thought into passion than their own orgasm. I find it refreshing to know there are others like me.
 
Is that Dom psychology?


  Race Bannon-the cartoon guy-not the world famous BDSM guru....    



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Dom Psychology: PART II-a thrilling sequel... (5/1/2006 8:31:54 PM)

Sounds like a service top.

Women's orgasms are great- but so are men's.  And wanting to really please your partner and make them fulfilled is just a healthy secure state in relationships- nothing really to do with being a dom or sub or anything other than a good giving emotionally connected partner.

Taking responsibility for one's orgasm does not mean they are resigned to masturbation for the rest of their lives- it means taking responsibility for communicating and being open to a sexuality without shame or embarassment.

As in all things- if it works for you both and you're healthy and stable, have at ye.



CrappyDom -> RE: Dom Psychology: PART II-a thrilling sequel... (5/1/2006 8:54:30 PM)

Race,

I hadn't quite decided what to think of you till this post.  At first blush I started to just move on hearing another "why my dominance is so much better than yours" bullshit post.  Something towards the end caught my eye and I slowed down and reread it.  I see a great deal of myself in your post both good and bad.  I truly truly wish you the best and think that you, unlike me, just might pull this off.  That
quote:

What greater gift could be given to a man who thought he knew it all?
really hit home, while there were complications too difficult to overcome in my case, and instead, it was I who was into this and she was new, that discovery of a new world was the same.  I collared that woman the first night we played and many many years many many partners later, is the only one to have EVER worn it.  Treasure what  you have together because nothing on earth is rarer.

I came to this, or at least found my first mirror in a chat room.  I was in a vanilla relationship that was pretty tame and I got my first PC and started chatting.  Found it boring cause most didn't seem to have ever had sex.  So wandering around I found these sickos beating each other and shit, but boy they did understand imagery.  So, I played the game, being the shoulder for those poor abused subbies (oh how I now loathe that word) to cry on.  One day, this woman is complaining about how some bastard was making her wear something and I was saying "what a fucking control freak" and BOOM, images of women one after anothr came trailing through my head that I had made cry or fought with over what they wore.  BAM, I shut down the computer and had my own little freak out.  O MY GOD...am I one of THEM?

So years later here I am and I am very much one of THEM...

I played in public for the first time in about five years last night and yes, I felt like god and what I was making was beautiful and it was me and her making it.  If you want to make this work for you, learn to be you in all your glory and all your warts.



BitaTruble -> RE: Dom Psychology: PART II-a thrilling sequel... (5/1/2006 10:23:54 PM)

Looking for something that's different because you know, innately, that you are a bit off from everyone else. You're not quite sure where you should look or what you'll find once you get there, but there has got to be better than here, because here is deadly dull and distinctly unsatisfying. It's not so much that you need your body parts attended to either but rather it's the lack of creation and the yearning that there is more than just a body part to be enjoyed. It all started in the mind and the body was the catalyst for it, but only in a very superficial manner because that's all you knew how to use. So, you go into it looking for that spark that will bring some fulfillment to your dreary existence only to discover that it wasn't the ability to orgasm through stimulation that had any meaning at all. In fact, it's discovered that such is the least of all things. You find a place within yourself that brings contentment when you are faced with someone of power. You feel at peace in the actions and attitudes you now possess. You discover your uniqueness and your individuality and you're not afraid to embrace it completely because it is exactly who you are and who you have always been. It's when you discover the juxtaposition of service with substance, of unconditional yielding to a force of power, the energy of passion and intellect combined with the highest levels of trust you ever imagined. When all else pales next to that power then life is changed forever. When you can feel the cold of iron snapped on your wrists and it breeds only as the warmth of a favored blanket, a security of proportions heretofore unknown in your experience, when you have discovered yourself enslaved and see only free space before you because of that very enslavement.. you know you've come home.
Just a note from the flip side. ;) Celeste



catize -> RE: Dom Psychology: PART II-a thrilling sequel... (5/2/2006 5:25:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

Looking for something that's different because you know, innately, that you are a bit off from everyone else. You're not quite sure where you should look or what you'll find once you get there, but there has got to be better than here, because here is deadly dull and distinctly unsatisfying. It's not so much that you need your body parts attended to either but rather it's the lack of creation and the yearning that there is more than just a body part to be enjoyed. It all started in the mind and the body was the catalyst for it, but only in a very superficial manner because that's all you knew how to use. So, you go into it looking for that spark that will bring some fulfillment to your dreary existence only to discover that it wasn't the ability to orgasm through stimulation that had any meaning at all. In fact, it's discovered that such is the least of all things. You find a place within yourself that brings contentment when you are faced with someone of power. You feel at peace in the actions and attitudes you now possess. You discover your uniqueness and your individuality and you're not afraid to embrace it completely because it is exactly who you are and who you have always been. It's when you discover the juxtaposition of service with substance, of unconditional yielding to a force of power, the energy of passion and intellect combined with the highest levels of trust you ever imagined. When all else pales next to that power then life is changed forever. When you can feel the cold of iron snapped on your wrists and it breeds only as the warmth of a favored blanket, a security of proportions heretofore unknown in your experience, when you have discovered yourself enslaved and see only free space before you because of that very enslavement.. you know you've come home.
Just a note from the flip side. ;) Celeste


BitaTruble,
Speaking of pure poetry! 



RaceBannon -> RE: Dom Psychology: PART II-a thrilling sequel... (5/2/2006 9:37:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Sounds like a service top.

Not sure what that means, but I don't dislike the sound of it.

Women's orgasms are great- but so are men's. 

Yes but c'mon...I don't know about you, but I've never had multiple orgasms or been able to cum for ten minute intervals; I think I'd expire.

And wanting to really please your partner and make them fulfilled is just a healthy secure state in relationships- nothing really to do with being a dom or sub or anything other than a good giving emotionally connected partner.

I never said it did. I think wishing or needing to be in control makes one more dominant. I certainly like to be in control of the situation; don't know if that makes me a Dom, but it is my guess there lay the seeds to domination.

Taking responsibility for one's orgasm does not mean they are resigned to masturbation for the rest of their lives- it means taking responsibility for communicating and being open to a sexuality without shame or embarassment.

Perhaps that what the Helen Girly Brownesque comments were about, yet it seems scores of women out there have no interest or desire to be the caretakers of their orgasm. The airwaves are filled with medical miracles helping men with their O, yet no one yet has developed a helper for women. Many, many women have gone 30-40 years never finding their O...can't say I know any men with the same problem. It seems there are a great number of ladies out there who merely wish for a man to take charge and teach them how to be pleased, no?


As in all things- if it works for you both and you're healthy and stable, have at ye.

Absof--inglutely brotha!



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Dom Psychology: PART II-a thrilling sequel... (5/2/2006 10:05:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RaceBannon
Not sure what that means, but I don't dislike the sound of it.

OK, not sure why.  To me a service top is someone who enjoys giving someone great experiences as the top- the one in control of those experiences.

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Yes but c'mon...I don't know about you, but I've never had multiple orgasms or been able to cum for ten minute intervals; I think I'd expire.

OK, but some men can...and some women can't.

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I never said it did. I think wishing or needing to be in control makes one more dominant. I certainly like to be in control of the situation; don't know if that makes me a Dom, but it is my guess there lay the seeds to domination.

It makes you more cognizant of control.  Lots of subs and slaves are control freaks and perfectionists (a type of control freak), trust me.

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 The airwaves are filled with medical miracles helping men with their O, yet no one yet has developed a helper for women.

Ever go to the self-help section or researched it?  As someone who spent many nights crying over not being able to orgasm, trust me, there's LOADS of information and "helpful men" out there for the express purpose of helping a woman learn how to orgasm.

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 Many, many women have gone 30-40 years never finding their O...can't say I know any men with the same problem.

I do.  There are lot more men in the world with erection and orgasm problems than gets discussed.

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 It seems there are a great number of ladies out there who merely wish for a man to take charge and teach them how to be pleased, no?

Oh sure there are.  And there are a great number of men out there who wish for the same.  And a great number of women who don't want that at all, and a great number of men who don't want that at all either.



RaceBannon -> RE: Dom Psychology: PART II-a thrilling sequel... (5/2/2006 10:07:18 AM)

<I felt like god and what I was making was beautiful and it was me and her making it.  >

That in a nutshell is what has guided my passions in life. I don't know if this "God complex" is a key to the Dom thing, though looking at various names of "Masters" (Dragonlord, TheProtector, TheWiseOne, LotofLion, LorddeSade, KnowMaster, etc..), one would conclude Doms are not actually a humble group, and in general have an over inflated sense of self to be sure.

Perhaps it comes down to what Clark Gable said of Marilyn Monroe: "She makes a man feel like a man." I do know when this woman of mine, who so loves the idea of being naked at my feet, who so loves to crawl for my/her enjoyment, and who so loves to do the many things I never dared dream a woman would not only do, but WISH to do, I know I feel more manly then ever before.

Manly=Godlike? Virile=Masterful?

I have always had great confidence with women, but to go out on such a limb where a woman could have so much "material" on you ("He wants me to call him "Master," can you imagine???), to edge into a land where your pride can be so much on the line and where outsiders looking in could shake their heads in dismay is breathtaking in its perilousness, is risk indeed. Risk is the only safe way to live your life. Playing it safe is the riskiest business of all.


I love it. I was never all that verbal in the sack, now I can't seem to shut up, not only because she loves the verbal coaching but I love the affect it has on her. I am 46 years old. I have been "with" women for 30 years. In the past six months, I finally started learning how to "do it." I still have no idea if I'll ever consider myself "Master," but the journey so far has been pretty damn fascinating, that's for sure.We often have a good laugh after one of our "scenes." O we know we're preverted...





RaceBannon -> RE: Dom Psychology: PART II-a thrilling sequel... (5/2/2006 10:33:15 AM)

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Yes but c'mon...I don't know about you, but I've never had multiple orgasms or been able to cum for ten minute intervals; I think I'd expire.

OK, but some men can...and some women can't.

I've never met a woman who can't have multiple O's, and I've never met a man who could have several orgasm in several minutes. O I've cum maybe four times in a DAY but that's not exactly the "multiple" I'm talking about. I have leafed thru books proclaiming the male can do such a thing. Perhaps I should look into tantra. I'd be interested to hear stories of men who have actually had a multiple O like a woman...have you?

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I never said it did. I think wishing or needing to be in control makes one more dominant. I certainly like to be in control of the situation; don't know if that makes me a Dom, but it is my guess there lay the seeds to domination.

It makes you more cognizant of control.  Lots of subs and slaves are control freaks and perfectionists (a type of control freak), trust me.

Without a doubt. My girl is a "perfectionist" which is the greatest cause of the volitality of our relationship. No relationship is 'perfect' because humans are not perfect. It has taken me months to 'train' her that just because we have a fight or problem, all is not lost.

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 The airwaves are filled with medical miracles helping men with their O, yet no one yet has developed a helper for women.

Ever go to the self-help section or researched it?  As someone who spent many nights crying over not being able to orgasm, trust me, there's LOADS of information and "helpful men" out there for the express purpose of helping a woman learn how to orgasm.

True..but such services are not exactly hitting your local cable station like the male enhancement and erection products now are they?

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 Many, many women have gone 30-40 years never finding their O...can't say I know any men with the same problem.

I do.  There are lot more men in the world with erection and orgasm problems than gets discussed.

I'm sure, yet even though many men have premature ejaculation problems or erection problems when they age, I don't of ANY men who have gone forty years without EVER cumming. Why do you think so many issues of Playboy have been sold over the years. It's one thing to say, "Oh sorry honey, I just couldn't help myself cumming within 30 seconds now go get me a beer." Yet it seems a real tragedy to say, "Orgasm? I'm not sure I understand..."

I don't know of ANY men who do not know what an orgasm feels like. Whether is cums too soon, or rarely comes anymore in passing years, men still know what it feels like.

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 It seems there are a great number of ladies out there who merely wish for a man to take charge and teach them how to be pleased, no?

Oh sure there are.  And there are a great number of men out there who wish for the same. 
 
Yes, but I don't think they would be answering in the "Ask a Dom" forum, do you?

And a great number of women who don't want that at all,
 
They might be the ones answering the Q's in the "Ask a Mistress" forum?

and a great number of men who don't want that at all either.
 
And a great amount of men who merely their experience with a woman to be about getting their rocks off then rolling over and snoring.


And a great number of people who live in sorrow and longing because they do not end up with their opposites or like-minded lovers. Tis' the greatest shame, ain't it?

As someone who spent many nights crying over not being able to orgasm...
 
Is it just me, or does such longing drive other men to distraction? Why do such words drive me wild with desire and just make me wish to strip you, take you, and show you the Universe?

I'm warped; I know....



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Dom Psychology: PART II-a thrilling sequel... (5/2/2006 10:54:09 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RaceBannon
I've never met a woman who can't have multiple O's, and I've never met a man who could have several orgasm in several minutes.

They exist.

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True..but such services are not exactly hitting your local cable station like the male enhancement and erection products now are they?

Different products market to different audiences in different ways.  Ever take a look at the back section of a Cosmo mag? 

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 Why do you think so many issues of Playboy have been sold over the years.

Could we compare that to the number of romance and sex novels sold?

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Yes, but I don't think they would be answering in the "Ask a Dom" forum, do you?

Your thread is supposedly about a dom's psychology.  Nothing you're discussing here has any specific or necessary basis on being a male or a dominant- females and non-dominants experience the same things.

quote:

As someone who spent many nights crying over not being able to orgasm...
 
Is it just me, or does such longing drive other men to distraction? Why do such words drive me wild with desire and just make me wish to strip you, take you, and show you the Universe?

I'm warped; I know....

Oh no it's not you.  It's extremely common when I told a man that I hadn't had an orgasm that his eyes would light up and he'd be immediately convinced that HE was the ONE who could make it happen and that I needed to let him give me that experience that very night!

Such an ego thing- it's not about ME, it's not about really helping me, it's about your own ego, unexplored territory, and conquering a challenge. 

Not to say there isn't a part of you that doesn't truly want me to enjoy a great experience and is genuinely concerned with my own happiness- but that's not what's driving you, that's not why it makes you go crazy.

It would really be the quickest way to get me disgusted and turned off.



RaceBannon -> RE: Dom Psychology: PART II-a thrilling sequel... (5/2/2006 12:09:19 PM)



quote:

ORIGINAL: RaceBannon
I've never met a woman who can't have multiple O's, and I've never met a man who could have several orgasm in several minutes.

They exist.

That is tragic.

quote:

True..but such services are not exactly hitting your local cable station like the male enhancement and erection products now are they?

Different products market to different audiences in different ways.  Ever take a look at the back section of a Cosmo mag? 

I'm afraid my subscription ran out.

quote:

 Why do you think so many issues of Playboy have been sold over the years.

Could we compare that to the number of romance and sex novels sold?

Yes, but how many pages of read romance novels are "stuck together" like in old Playboys?

quote:

Yes, but I don't think they would be answering in the "Ask a Dom" forum, do you?

Your thread is supposedly about a dom's psychology.  Nothing you're discussing here has any specific or necessary basis on being a male or a dominant- females and non-dominants experience the same things.

Good point.

quote:

As someone who spent many nights crying over not being able to orgasm...
 
Is it just me, or does such longing drive other men to distraction? Why do such words drive me wild with desire and just make me wish to strip you, take you, and show you the Universe?

I'm warped; I know....


Oh no it's not you.  It's extremely common when I told a man that I hadn't had an orgasm that his eyes would light up and he'd be immediately convinced that HE was the ONE who could make it happen and that I needed to let him give me that experience that very night!

 I guess the question is: did he give you your orgasm? (I assume he didn't or was not allowed to try). It seems he wasn't the smoothest of characters.

Such an ego thing- it's not about ME, it's not about really helping me, it's about your own ego, unexplored territory, and conquering a challenge. 

It is an ego thing there is no doubt about that, but I think there is more to it. My girl now has often wondered that once I find all of her passion (an impossibility for she is infinite) whether I will seek new pastures and move on. Well, I don't wish to "fix" anyone. "Train" them to cum properly most definately, but why in the world would I put so much work into ecstasy if I didn't wish to keep the finished product? Sounds exhausting to start all over again. Yes, I LOVE the unexplored territory. Yes, I LOVE the challenge and conquering it. Yes, I LOVE to be the ONLY one who has ever found my lover's total passion. Then I like to keep 'em, marry 'em, and live happily ever after...

The last one lasted sixteen years and after 9/11, great tragedy, abnd many miscommunications we did not survive. That is the real tragedy...our tragedy.

Not to say there isn't a part of you that doesn't truly want me to enjoy a great experience and is genuinely concerned with my own happiness- but that's not what's driving you, that's not why it makes you go crazy.

What makes me go "crazy" is hearing stories of women's anguish over such a small and simple thing. What makes me go "crazy" is hearing tales of lovers who care little for their mates and makes me wish they could find someone who could make them feel whole, and sexy, and most of all loved and cherished. I was picnicking with my lover and her girlfriend. The conversation turned to sex and men. I asked a question I have asked my lover many months ago. I asked, "How many men have stimulated your clit with their finger DURING intercourse?"

The girlfriend answered, "None." Now, of the lovers I have had, only ONE could achieve orgasm with only insertion. My lover said the same of her past lovers. When my marriage broke up I went a little nuts on Adultfriendfinder and those lovers said the same. I also asked these women if they ever asked a man to stimulate them during sex which they all said, "No."

Perhaps this is taking "responsibility" for ones orgasm, but you would think with all the information out there, men would catch on and have the decency to give a girl a "reach around" from time to time. Though sex can be art, it ain't exactly brain surgery. I'm not saying clitorial stimulation is the ultimate in finding a woman's O (I think "trust" is the real key), but it's a pretty good start, don't you agree?

It would really be the quickest way to get me disgusted and turned off.

Perhaps I worded it wrong. Perhaps instead of "crazy," "compassion" would have been the better adjective. My heart goes out to such women and feels like it bleeds for them. I have seen such passion in my life that to find those who have never experienced the ecstasy I have been witness to seems tragic and unnecessary.

When on Adultfriendfinder I had experiences with women who truly wished only to find their passion (they had not given up on love; some had lives that were so busy that a 'real' relationship was beyond their hopes), they merely wished to cum and cum and cum. How does one's heart not go out to such longing? How is pleasing such women disgusting or a turn off?





CrappyDom -> RE: Dom Psychology: PART II-a thrilling sequel... (5/2/2006 5:02:28 PM)

RB,

You need to pick up a copy of "The Multiorgasmic Man" and open up a whole new world of sexual enjoyment.  There are others, but this one has less metaphysical stuff in it than many others.

Also, many women cum once and are too sensitive to cum again and further stimulation becomes pain not pleasure, what the percentage is I have no idea but I have known enough to not think it is rare. 



Paul1974 -> RE: Dom Psychology: PART II-a thrilling sequel... (5/6/2006 8:13:32 AM)

Race, although this is a description of your driving force for sexual prowess, to be a service top. I dont see any mention of being a dominant.
Im defining a service top, as one who dishes out the pleasure to the bottom. Like a artist, painting a canvas. But is not necessarily a Dominant. My definition being one who seeks a powerexchange in more than the sexual encounter alone. Long after the sheets have been changed and the sun has risen. But sex is such a small part within my own D/s relationship, it is A vehicle that we can ride the D/s on, but not the only vehicle. Power is exchanged in our daily lives, and we arent having sex 24/7. If you like, think of it, as sexual D/s is topping and bottoming, whereas the dominance and submission day in, day out, is the Dominance and submission. Id personally like to hear your views on this aspect of power exchanges.
Your thinking is clear and concise, and its always interesting to read another's view point.
little1
edited to add that He had not logged out. Bugger!



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