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RE: Irony - 1/21/2011 7:06:37 AM   
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RE: Irony - 1/21/2011 8:15:06 AM   
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But just for your edification, my next purchase will likely be a book. Made in the USA.


Check the copyright page when you get it: a lot of US publishers have shifted their printing operations out of the country, sadly. It tends to be only the mouse milk runs from small presses that are still printed and bound in the 'States, though a lot of stuff is printed in Canada rather than China or India, at least.

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RE: Irony - 1/21/2011 9:29:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Not something I'd be advertising if I lived in Pennsylvania, myself.

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ORIGINAL Aylee
But just for your edification, my next purchase will likely be a book. Made in the USA.


Check the copyright page when you get it: a lot of US publishers have shifted their printing operations out of the country, sadly. It tends to be only the mouse milk runs from small presses that are still printed and bound in the 'States, though a lot of stuff is printed in Canada rather than China or India, at least.


I don't live in Pennsylvania.  I live in Kansas. 

Anyways, I am a geek and Tor and Baen both print in the US. 

ETA:  I checked and my latest cook book was printed in the US as well.

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RE: Irony - 1/21/2011 9:48:19 AM   
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Fair enough about the other: most of the American books published in the last few years I have to hand were printed in either Canada, India or China. None of those were Tor or Baen, though.

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RE: Irony - 1/21/2011 9:59:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Okay, I will admit that I may have missed the thread about this.  I travel some for work and I do miss things.  However:

Has anyone noticed the irony of the 2009 awardee of the Nobel Peace Prize hosting a dinner for the guy imprisoning the awardee of the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize?

And is satisfied that he is "working on human rights violations"? 

Is it just me doing a "face-palm"?


Yeah, and if you were to ask most people the reason Obama was "awarded" the Nobel Peace Prize they wouldn't be able to tell you.
And any, "working on human rights violations" by Obama should be concentrated in the U.S. not in foreign countries.
Obama said something to the effect that having a job is part of human rights. Oh really?

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RE: Irony - 1/21/2011 10:07:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

The Pennsylvania comment was aimed at medication boy.

Fair enough about the other: most of the American books published in the last few years I have to hand were printed in either Canada, India or China. None of those were Tor or Baen, though.


Well that clears up one mystery.  I could not figure out why living in Pennsylvania was anathema to buying books. 

If you are not reading from Tor or Baen, you are obviously not reading enough science fiction.  Shall I recommend a few?  Orson Scott Card is a favorite.  There is actually a piece that I frequently recommend.  I believe that you can read it here.  It is an afterward in one of his series.  

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RE: Irony - 1/21/2011 1:23:25 PM   
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RE: Irony - 1/21/2011 2:35:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

The Pennsylvania comment was aimed at medication boy.

Fair enough about the other: most of the American books published in the last few years I have to hand were printed in either Canada, India or China. None of those were Tor or Baen, though.


Well that clears up one mystery.  I could not figure out why living in Pennsylvania was anathema to buying books. 

If you are not reading from Tor or Baen, you are obviously not reading enough science fiction.  Shall I recommend a few?  Orson Scott Card is a favorite.  There is actually a piece that I frequently recommend.  I believe that you can read it here.  It is an afterward in one of his series.  

I actually read a lot of science fiction: it's just that living in the UK, I tend to get most of it through Orion or Orbit rather than those two publishers. It's imports of something that isn't in print over here (mostly from Amazon, who are great for that) that tipped me off to the publication being outsourced thing. If Tor and Baen haven't resorted to that in order to cut production costs yet, then kudos to them.

(It's massively off topic, but I enjoyed Ender's Game a lot. I'm less keen on the sequels though, and the other stuff of Card's I've read is a bit too Mormon for my taste. I'll put up with Walter Miller's catholicism because we got The Darfstellar and A canticle For Leibowitz out of that, but Ender's Game, while great fun, wasn't quite in that league. )

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RE: Irony - 1/21/2011 4:46:01 PM   
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Is there anything you can buy in America that wasn't manufactured in China?


Yes, Cocaine.

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RE: Irony - 1/21/2011 5:09:32 PM   
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Yeah, and if you were to ask most people the reason Obama was "awarded" the Nobel Peace Prize they wouldn't be able to tell you.


Ironically, neither could you.

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And any, "working on human rights violations" by Obama should be concentrated in the U.S. not in foreign countries.


Which indicates you dont know why the Nobel is awarded.

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RE: Irony - 1/22/2011 4:27:50 AM   
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