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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 1/31/2011 5:59:51 PM   
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Sorry for a double reply but I was thinking about the sane part.

Having a mental illness does not make you insane, if you are caring for it and able enough in the world to go out and have a somewhat (pardon the expression) 'normal' life.

I take safe, sane, consensual to mean not causing permanent harm, sane as in not doing things that would in fact drive someone 'mad' (isolation for weeks and months, etc) and not doing things against the sub's very nature (cut one of your toes off, worship Satan, etc).

It sounds most like you are bipolar. Antidepressants can trigger bigger bipolar incidents. Some of the main culprits include venlaxafine (effexor) and wellbutrinn (bupropion I think), celexa (citalopram). You can look up the medications you have recieved at webmd.com to see if they may be triggering something for you.

Please get a really good diagnosis from a doctor you trust. Bipolars can live a fairly good life with the right treatment. (I have two friends who are) It's not hardly 'crazy' but just the way some people's brains work. Think of it simply as an illness, with the brain asking you to do things differently than you might otherwise want to. Diabetes can be like that, as well as sleep deprivation, and other conditions not considered 'mental' at all.

Something different in the brain should only be viewed as different, the way one person prefers chocolate to strawberry, etc.

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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 1/31/2011 6:02:24 PM   
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Everyone has a degree of mental issues. Some diagnosable, some not. We all suffer from depression in one way or another, we all have manic moments at one time or another. Not 1 person is 100% sane regardless of how they view themselves. That said, I wouldn't discriminate against someone if they had a mental issue but they have to be med compliant, this means ALL their meds, not just the psychotropics. I understand that sometimes the side effects cause undesireable issues but we would need to weigh the pros and cons...Which is worse, the mental issue or the side effect?...for most men it means impotence. I would rather have a male slave that is impotent than have a ragining mental issues that was driving me to have mental issues.

There is a stigma attached to going to a mental hospital. However, I would rather have a slave that has spent time in a hospital getting his meds straight than one that is in denial and has never spent time in a hospital.

Basically I am saying, "get your shit straight before you approach anyone...its not good for others to have to carry your shit and you haven't taken the steps to get it straight.

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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 1/31/2011 7:42:16 PM   
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Basically I am saying, "get your shit straight before you approach anyone...its not good for others to have to carry your shit and you haven't taken the steps to get it straight.


I love that. :-) I had a doctor say that to me once going through a rough time, 8 years ago. Best medicine ever. I didn't want the prescription and he said, "Well when you get your shit together you can worry about it then." :-)

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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 1/31/2011 8:10:05 PM   
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Just for clarity's sake (and in response to some posts), yes, mental illness is not the same as insanity. Insanity is a legal definition, not a medical one.

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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 1/31/2011 9:00:59 PM   
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According to that opinion. There are many respected people in the psychiatric profession who disagree with that.

And they're wrong.



Why are they wrong when the source you offered says MPDs do exist?


And yet you still cannot answer a straight forward question.




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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 1/31/2011 9:04:46 PM   
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And yet you still cannot answer a straight forward question.

I'm way to cool to cooperate. It's all part of the mystique. I'm playing hard to get. Is it working?

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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 1/31/2011 9:06:07 PM   
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Nope. All you are doing is making yourself appear as a liar and a coward. But, hey, to each their own.

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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 1/31/2011 9:45:50 PM   
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Here is an article from that case I was talking about.I am not exactly the best at providing links but I have figured out how to at least bring certain things on to the message boards.If anyone is curious about the website,it is http://www.sptimes.com/2007/07/12/Pasco/Man_is_accused_of_hav.shtml Just remember,this is an old case.There may have been somethings I might have missed.Clearly,prostitution may have been involved and I forgot about that.Read the story and draw your own conclusions.
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PORT RICHEY -- She is 19 years old, bipolar and schizophrenic, and on her MySpace page she says she will do whatever it takes to be your kitten.

She left home in Marion County last Friday night, and on Monday, local authorities were calling her missing and endangered.

By then she'd signed on as a sex slave.

It was all spelled out in a 10-page document, later obtained by investigators. It was called "Master Drew's Slavery Contract."

Her body would be his property. He could put her in collar and wrist restraints, brand or scar her at will. Clothing would be generally prohibited.

She would sleep four or five hours a night, rising to cook and clean and do the laundry. She would keep Friday nights free for leash training and foot worship. If she ever disobeyed, punishment would escalate from slapping and hair-pulling to leg chains and caning.

"He may hurt her without reason to please Himself," the contract read. "The slave enjoys the right to cry, scream or beg, but accepts the fact that if her Master tires of her noise, He may gag her or take other actions to silence her."

The contract was supposed to last five years. But deputies, acting on a tip, intervened on Tuesday and arrested the man known as "Master Drew."

It was not the first time he'd been accused of sexually enslaving a young woman whose mental health was in question.

* * *


Andrew Michael Kobak moved into the house at 7601 Jasmine Blvd. in Port Richey about a year ago, his neighbors said, and he wasted little time in turning it into a porn factory.

His business card advertised Seductive Modeling, which promised potential models up to $500 an hour to star in adult videos.

Alyssandra Cardillo, the 19-year-old bipolar woman from Silver Springs, met Kobak over the Internet, according to her father, Tony Cardillo. Last Friday, she took off in a taxi with a week's worth of medication. She turned up at Kobak's house.

For the next four days, according to Pasco County Sheriff's Office reports, she was his slave. And he didn't keep her to himself, she told authorities: For a fee of $60 each, she performed sex acts on eight other men, police said.

On Tuesday, tipped off by a confidential informant, deputies went to the house and arrested Kobak, who is 34. They charged him with deriving the proceeds of prostitution, maintaining a place for prostitution, and possession and cultivation of marijuana.

Cardillo was charged with prostitution, a misdemeanor, though she was not arrested.

"Possibly," said sheriff's spokesman Kevin Doll, "she could be a victim in this."

Along with whips and sex toys, deputies recovered the contract, signed by her, but not by him.

On the second page, there's a clause, apparently handwritten by Cardillo, that prohibits the "Master" from involving her in any acts involving human waste, animals or children.

"Master" will not remove me from my medicine, she wrote.

* * *


Kobak had been arrested at least three times before, although state records indicate that most or all of the charges were dismissed. In 2003, he was accused in a similar case.

At that time, according to a previous St. Petersburg Times story, police in Largo said he had met a 19-year-old mentally disabled woman from Illinois in an online chat room, bought her a bus ticket for Florida and took her in as his sex slave.

Pretending to be a police officer, he kept her in his house for 60 hours, abusing her with a riding crop, threatening to inject her with a drug if she tried to run, the police said then. He was arrested and charged with sexual battery, lewd or lascivious acts on a disabled person and aggravated battery. The woman was hospitalized for internal injuries.

The case was later dismissed, and records of it have vanished from public view. On Wednesday, officials in the Pinellas Clerk of Court's Office and the Pinellas-Pasco State Attorney's Office said they knew nothing about it.

Florida law provides for the purging of records if the arrest was deemed unwarranted.

* * *


On Wednesday night, Tony Cardillo was still looking for his daughter.

"I'm kind of at a loss," he said, adding that he had her committed about four years ago after she cut her wrists.

Doll, the sheriff's spokesman, said she was in a safe place, under the care of a victim advocate. He wouldn't say where.

Kobak posted $15,150 bail and was released from the Land O'Lakes jail early Wednesday morning. Just before noon, when a reporter visited the house, Kobak answered the door.

"Please," he said. "Please go."

Times researcher Caryn Baird and staff writers Chris Tisch and Jamal Thalji contributed to this report. Thomas Lake can be reached at [email protected] or 1-800-333-7505, ext. 6245.

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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 1/31/2011 10:06:08 PM   
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Here I sit, 48 yrs old, diagnosed with clinical depression, G.A.D, SAD, borderline personality disorder and stress.  No kidding on the stress, everything else is enough to stress anyone out.  I've never been ashamed of my illness.  It doesn't manifest itself in a way that's apparent as a physical disability would.  My brain doesn't fire right.  I need the meds, and I take them regularly as is indicated.  I even have it in my profile, I won't hide that part from anybody.  If I'm asked, I'll give more detailed information, and they can decide then.  The worst for me is when someone appears interested, finds out, then just quits writing.  It's not like I don't know what's going on, I'm fully aware.  But some are just too damn chicken to say I'm not interested.  That would be so much easier to handle than to be ignored. 

Right now, and for years, I've been trying my damndest to deal with a bureaucracy that puts mental illness on a shelf.  Trying to find a psychiatrist who's not a total doofus in this province is not easy.  I know, I've had 3 who've managed to make things worse for me.  Do I fight it every day?  Damn right I do.  Am I trying to find someone who'll finally be able to understand and help?  Damn right I have.  I've been fighting now for over 10 yrs.  Been on numerous meds.

Now, I need a new regime, the old one is no longer effective.  So I do my best to live life as best I can.  Does that make me less of a submissive?  Absolutely not.  I know I do better when I'm with someone who's loving and caring and it brings out the best in me.  Am I funny? Yes.  Am I fun, at times yes, at other times, it's a struggle. 

I live out in the middle of nowhere, I'm unable to work, but I'm on disability and I do the best I can every day.  Have Doms rejected me because of my illness?  Many have.  Many won't even give me the chance to prove myself.  I don't become disobedient, I'm not a brat.  Far from it.  My true personality always shines through. 

I love to be able to look after someone, to take care of things, to love and submit to the right Man.  It gives me a purpose that right now I'm without.  It makes it harder, but I won't give up.  There's always been a small flame inside me that's burned.  Sometimes it's an ember, sometimes it's a bright light.  But I try my best and that's all I can do.

Pyro, take care of yourself, know that others here know exactly what you're going through and fight the same struggles that you do.  Luckily, in my case, I've never been suicidal.  I know too well the effect it has on those left behind having lost a number of people to suicide over the years.  Well that, and I'm too chicken to do that to myself.  It's never even crossed my mind.

I also suffer from Diabetes II, do I take my meds?  Every day.  Do I watch what I eat?  I try me best once again.  Let's face it, being on disability is not easy, the money received every month isn't enough to eat the way I should.  I'm also lucky that my dad can help me through the tough times financially and never refuses me the help he knows I need.  He's my rock, my support, my cheering section as is his girlfriend and her family.

I count my blessing every day that I'm still here.  That I'm doing the best I can and that someday, somehow, someone will consider me and accept me as theirs.  I still stress out when things get out of hand, when too much is on my plate.  I'm also lucky enough to have my landlady who knows what I'm going through and is there to help me when I need it.  She's become a dear friend and I love her to pieces. 

Sometimes, you just can't deal with a government system that has you spinning round, and you need someone who's well enough emotionally to deal with the various bureaucrats who seem to stop you at every corner.  Not all meds are covered, psycho-therapists and counselors aren't free, and the different agencies all offer to help initially then drop you off their radar.  At times, it's frustrating, debilitating and enough to make me want to hibernate through the next few months. 

But I refuse to do so, and I am the best me I can be.  Some people won't live with that, it's not my problem, it's theirs.  As someone who's been there, done that, wore the t-shirt to shreds over many years, I wish anyone the best of luck and treatment for something that's still not always recognized or acknowledged.

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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 1/31/2011 10:26:54 PM   
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Nope. All you are doing is making yourself appear as a liar and a coward. But, hey, to each their own.

At least you smiled when you said it.

You're a moron and an idiot.




Were you looking in the mirror when you said that, Chulain?

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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 2/1/2011 1:01:01 AM   
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diagnosed with clinical depression, G.A.D, SAD, borderline personality disorder and stress.  No kidding on the stress, everything else is enough to stress anyone out.

Another submissive with clinical depression. As you may have read, according to my model of the mind it is one of the possible characteristics of the genuine submissive, and to me an indication that you might be one such. (I will take your word for it, though a body shape photograph might help.)

General anxiety disorder in my opinion is part of the clinical depression; it is a package thing.

Seasonal affective disorder in your case, I suspect, is an extension of the clinical depression as exacerbated by the winter season. The good news is that seasonal affective disorder may be neutralized by daily light baths.

Borderline personality disorder likely again is part of the package. I suspect that it would be best to cope with this aspect by behavioral strategies and not by medication. What behavioral measures work for you, is something that you will have to discover for yourself, though perhaps some people may guide you in this.

The stress is bad, because it causes a positive feedback to the above issues, meaning that they will deepen your clinical depression - though perhaps in a submissive that is not a bad thing, at least in my model of the mind. In any case the stress is making you unhappy and that is a bad thing in itself. So try to reduce the sources of the stress.

My counsel is to do as pyroaquatic: embrace who you are, accept. Also ignore those issues. Focus on your strong sense of self (another characteristic of a submissive in my model of their mind) and on your purpose. Anything else - your above issues - is to be disregarded as insignificant.

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I also suffer from Diabetes II

That possibly may ameliorate if you manage to loose weight (gradually of course). Can you dance to music? If so, then do so daily; a side benefit is that it will relax you and thus take away stress. Belly dancing might be an option; if there is no teacher around or if that is too expensive, I believe that there are video training manuals. (And belly dancing in a submissive for some doms is a plus.)

Another way to loose weight and to relax - and to get paid - is to become a dog walker.

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I've never been suicidal.

That is a plus.

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I do my best to live life as best I can.  Does that make me less of a submissive?  Absolutely not.  I know I do better when I'm with someone who's loving and caring and it brings out the best in me.  Am I funny? Yes.  Am I fun, at times yes, at other times, it's a struggle.

Those are pluses too.

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I love to be able to look after someone, to take care of things, to love and submit to the right Man.  It gives me a purpose that right now I'm without.

No, you are not without that purpose. It still is your purpose, your motivation.

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It makes it harder, but I won't give up.  There's always been a small flame inside me that's burned.  Sometimes it's an ember, sometimes it's a bright light.  But I try my best and that's all I can do.

Those are your means, your power.

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But I refuse to do so, and I am the best me I can be.

Those are your means, your powers too.

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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 2/1/2011 1:25:50 AM   
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What I find amusing is from everyone saying NO way what so ever would I date someone with a mental Illness Probably has more then once. Might be right now.

Do you know many people who are bi polar, or who have say Borderline personality disorder, chronic depression, and multiple other "illnesses"  Can show no signs?

Ever have a friend close to you kill themselves? Ever read the stories of them? "He was fine he didnt show any signs he was going to do this..."

Heres the thing, many people who suffer from mental illness dont open their mouths and tell people. Theres a very important reason why.

This thread is that reason. Blind out there complete and utter prejudice Simply because you dont care to learn or understand.

OP; I have something to offer  you that many will not agree with. But Only tell what is going to be completely necessary. Only what they are going to notice. And remember Human beings over look a LOT of what they do not want to see. They dont want to see the fact that your smile doesnt reach your eyes. And Look for alternatives to medication. In all honesty Medication isnt a Long term fix, because of the way the body metabolizes it and it becomes less effective over time.




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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 2/1/2011 1:29:43 AM   
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I don't think it should be a main reason for saying no, but I agree that it's important to ensure that the activities you both do are safe. If the mental illness goes as far as making someone uncapable of either saying no or stopping when they should, then it wouldn't be the best choice to engage in bdsm. It could go wrong for both.

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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 2/1/2011 2:16:54 AM   
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Nope. All you are doing is making yourself appear as a liar and a coward. But, hey, to each their own.

At least you smiled when you said it.

You're a moron and an idiot.




Were you looking in the mirror when you said that, Chulain?


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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 2/1/2011 3:01:32 AM   
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OP; I have something to offer  you that many will not agree with. But Only tell what is going to be completely necessary. Only what they are going to notice. And remember Human beings over look a LOT of what they do not want to see. They dont want to see the fact that your smile doesnt reach your eyes. And Look for alternatives to medication. In all honesty Medication isnt a Long term fix, because of the way the body metabolizes it and it becomes less effective over time.

You're right, Spirited.  I don't agree with you.  In good conscious, I couldn't advocate hiding a mental illness any more than I could a physical one.  Not only is it unethical, but you're asking the other person to consent when they have no awareness.  Instead, there's a potential for a situation that is going to hit them from far out of left field.

I get not wanting the stigma, but is that really being fair to the other person?


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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 2/1/2011 5:08:38 AM   
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I would never even consider not telling someone I was getting involved with that I suffer from an assortment of ailments related to the clinical depression.  But then that's just me, honest to a fault.  I've lived with it long enough and won't let anyone attach a stigma to it. 

Some people are able to hide it well, I'm one of them if someone doesn't really know me.  But my close friends and family have and do notice that I'm not the same person I used to be.  The happy-go-lucky, couldn't give a damn *me* is no longer there. 

I met with a GP about a month ago who said he had no idea of the clinical depression if I hadn't told him.  He told me I was well organized in my thoughts, was forthright and seemed very self-aware.  That's the one thing that I've got going for me is self-awareness of what I suffer from and what I have to do to try to get the help I need.  It's an uphill battle, but one I know I have to fight.

Rule, I've already lost weight, it's coming off slowly but I'm still down 67 lbs than I used to be.  And that's starting to go down a bit at a time.  The fact that it also runs in the family on my dad's side has to do with it.  Genetics and all that stuff.  My mom suffered from high cholesterol for many years, and this was a woman who didn't eat the foods typically associated with it.   


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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 2/1/2011 5:30:15 AM   
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Rule, I've already lost weight, it's coming off slowly but I'm still down 67 lbs than I used to be.  And that's starting to go down a bit at a time.

That is great. Slowly is good. Please inform me if it eventually proves to lessen your diabetes II.

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The fact that it also runs in the family on my dad's side has to do with it.  Genetics and all that stuff.  My mom suffered from high cholesterol for many years, and this was a woman who didn't eat the foods typically associated with it.   

I dunno about the genetics on your dad's side. However, I do deem it likely that your mom's
high cholesterol was caused by a chronic virus infection that caused her metabolism to go wrong (in a way that benefitted the virus).

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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 2/1/2011 6:41:13 AM   
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You're right, Spirited.  I don't agree with you.  In good conscious, I couldn't advocate hiding a mental illness any more than I could a physical one.  Not only is it unethical, but you're asking the other person to consent when they have no awareness.  Instead, there's a potential for a situation that is going to hit them from far out of left field.

I get not wanting the stigma, but is that really being fair to the other person?



Is it really being fair to someone who might be Bipolar who happens to manage it well to be stamped with a your completely damaged and really theres no hope for you ever to have a healthy relationship because you happen to have this genetic quirk? Is it really being fair to someone who has Situational depression to brand them as if they have just gone off and tried to kill themselves? What about the people who suffer from PTSD?

Sadly Life isnt fair, and the responses on this thread are the reason many people dont think  its okay to say Im Bi polar, or I have Borderline personality, Or I have Situational depression. Without being labled a VERY many amount of unpleasant and very untrue things. People HATE differences People hate quirks and We havent evolved past hating something we fear and we dont know about....until people as a whole do I dont think its wrong to let someone get to know me for who I am as a person and human being instead of a Diagnosis a doctor has slapped on me. If you dont like or how I behave the knowledge that Im say bi polar wont make a difference in that. Im going to be the same person and act the same way regardless of your knowledge that I happen to be Bi Polar II. It might explain why some days in May and October I become obsessive in getting things clean but it doesnt really change anything in my day to day life... IF i manage it properly......

You assume in your statement that every person with a mental illness at some point is going to come out of left field and attack the person their dating or kill a small animal. Or do something thats completely psychotic... Thats NOT the case in MOST people who suffer from a mental illness.

People go for years being undiagnosed with certain illness's It might take someone 15 years if they are a slow cycle bipolar to pick up a pattern that after ever 13 months i go from normal to very depressed for 4 months then go back to normal then 13 months later go to being really hyper for 4 months then go back to normal.

Mental Illnesses are so hard to diagnose as it is and none of them are 100 Percent definitive, There isnt a blood test someone can do to say you bi polar like there is for diabetes or high cholesterol.

Ive been in therapy for I would say 15 out of my 21 years. Ive been told I suffer from Bi polar, From Borderline personality disorder from Schizophrenia, From Dissociative Personality disorder, from chronic depression. from generalized anxiety disorder.....Ive even been told that I am having a gender identity crisis and thats why Im having so many issues. Every doctor says I suffer from something completely different and my last doctor didnt know anything.

Could it be very possible I suffer from one or many of the above illness's yes its possible. Is it also possible that many doctors get more money from the insurance companies if they are treating someone for X over Y? Or they get a kick back for prescribing X Drug for Y Disorder then just saying eat more apples and exercise me?



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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 2/1/2011 8:26:14 AM   
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I can promise you that if a submissive lied to me about a condition when I'm open about mine, that would be the end of it. I'm fine with mental illness as long as it's being treated (which does not require medication). To lie about it? That's a serious breach of trust and one that I won't accept.

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RE: Would mental illness bar a submissive from being pi... - 2/1/2011 9:03:04 AM   
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quote:

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Ive been told I suffer from Bi polar, From Borderline personality disorder from Schizophrenia, From Dissociative Personality disorder, from chronic depression. from generalized anxiety disorder.....Ive even been told that I am having a gender identity crisis and thats why Im having so many issues. Every doctor says I suffer from something completely different and my last doctor didnt know anything.

Obviously most if not all of them doctors are blind.

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